Silverado_Prime wrote:tigertracks 24 wrote:I think we learned from Sam's 'dream' that you must earn the matrix--proven worthy to have it's power in your possession--, you cannot take it, so what the Fallen took was not going to work anyway, and Prime should still be bearing the essence of the matrix within him.
That's a lot of speculation. Now we're saying that the Matrix can leave an essence without having it? Well, if it is destroyed, hopefully the essence lasts long enough for an attack from someone like Unicron.
The Prime's decide if you are worthy or not. They very blatantly said this to Sam. So the Fallen could not take the Matrix anyway, as who deemed if he was worthy.
The matrix was powerless dust until the Prime's decided Sam had had enough faith and worthiness, as well as an unselfish goal, so they deemed he was worthy of the ability to possess it's power, especially for the goal he intended...to help an descendant of the Primes defeat the Fallen Prime.
And isn't this all about speculation? One might also suspect that the Fallen could take the matrix because he was a Prime, but that's not explained, nor is it explained if a Prime can take it from a Prime, or if the Prime who last had it, has to decide if the successor is worthy, similar to G1's 80's Animated movie, where Optimus decided to give it to Magnus, but Magnus could not use it's power because he was not the worthy successor. Eventually, the Prime's/whoever in the matrix found the worthy one in Hot Rod.
In this case, the 3 remaining Prime's possessed it, and decided Sam/Optimus were worthy of the succession.
I mean, who really knows, I'm grasping here. Maybe the matrix is gone, destroyed when Prime destroyed the sun harvester. That's probably what Bay intended us to see, since there real is no higher thinking extrapolation involved with this movie.
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