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Sabrblade wrote:No no. Have the football players themselves reenact the Junkion dance scene on the field. One team being the Autobots, the other team being the Junkions.Rodimus Prime wrote:Only if it's all polka songs with the grand finale of Dare to Be Stupid. They can even take the Junkion dancing scene from TF:TM and put it on the big screen.First-Aid wrote:The ONLY thing I want more than Transtech is Weird Al Yankovic doing the Super Bowl Halftime Show.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Sabrblade wrote:No no. Have the football players themselves reenact the Junkion dance scene on the field. One team being the Autobots, the other team being the Junkions.Rodimus Prime wrote:Only if it's all polka songs with the grand finale of Dare to Be Stupid. They can even take the Junkion dancing scene from TF:TM and put it on the big screen.First-Aid wrote:The ONLY thing I want more than Transtech is Weird Al Yankovic doing the Super Bowl Halftime Show.
The answer is... Because that what the toys were like and the cartoon models had to reflect that.Rodimus Prime wrote:As for Beast Wars, was it ever explained (either by the creators or in story) why those specific changes were made to the characters at the beginning of season 2? Like, why did Megatron get hip turbines, or why Rattrap got wheels?
It's commonly theorized that Waspinator, Dinobot, and Rhinox were shielded from the quantum surge since they were each inside a CR Chamber (or CR Tank in Waspinator's case) at the time. Meanwhile, Tigatron, Airazor, Blackarachnia, and Inferno (all born on Earth from stasis pods instead of coming from Cybertron already up and active) were mysteriously unaffected.Rodimus Prime wrote:And why Blackarachnia, Waspinator, Inferno, Dinobot and Rhinox were unaffected?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rodimus Prime wrote:
As for Beast Wars, was it ever explained (either by the creators or in story) why those specific changes were made to the characters at the beginning of season 2? Like, why did Megatron get hip turbines, or why Rattrap got wheels?
First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:No no. Have the football players themselves reenact the Junkion dance scene on the field. One team being the Autobots, the other team being the Junkions.Rodimus Prime wrote:Only if it's all polka songs with the grand finale of Dare to Be Stupid. They can even take the Junkion dancing scene from TF:TM and put it on the big screen.First-Aid wrote:The ONLY thing I want more than Transtech is Weird Al Yankovic doing the Super Bowl Halftime Show.
I was thinking the original artists would come out for the songs and do them with Al, but this is a better idea...
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Source?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The more interesting, less cynical and obvious take. The "vehicle" modes represented a similar altmode of each bot, prior to the Beast Wars. Megatron being some kind of osprey, Tarantulas a bike etc
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Source?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The more interesting, less cynical and obvious take. The "vehicle" modes represented a similar altmode of each bot, prior to the Beast Wars. Megatron being some kind of osprey, Tarantulas a bike etc
Yeah, Roddy was asking about official answers, not theories.ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Source?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The more interesting, less cynical and obvious take. The "vehicle" modes represented a similar altmode of each bot, prior to the Beast Wars. Megatron being some kind of osprey, Tarantulas a bike etc
Could be mistaken, but I think it’s all new's head cannon
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Well, I don't see any harm in addressing the toy matter here since it's still related to the show, but in a way, the Transmetal toys were like that for the same reason that the whole Beast Era was the way it was: Because Kenner/Hasbro was so willing to be so experimental at the time. Generation 2 had revived the brand with much more of the same things that had made Transformers great when it first started out in the 1980s, but in the 1990s that wasn't good enough. Different times came with different trends. Despite making some really great new toys that helped pave the way for the future (like the Cyberjets and Laser Optimus Prime), G2 ultimately nearly killed Transformers for good.Rodimus Prime wrote:Alright, I figured as much about the show creators having to adhere to toy models. I guess it's a discussion for the toy forum, but I was really getting at wanting to know why those design choices were made for those characters.
Indeed. And this was all for a show whose writing team was mostly flying by the seat of their pants most of the time.Rodimus Prime wrote:And after reading Sabrblade's response, I realize just how much the show animators really had to deal with. Switching out characters in the course of the show made it seem less than what it actually was, but that is quite a few character models they had to animate. I still prefer Terrorsaur and Scorponok over Silverbolt and Quickstrike, but otherwise it's quite an accomplishment for the writers to find a place for each character in the show that doesn't feel like they're being neglected.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Roddy was asking about official answers, not theories.ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Source?AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The more interesting, less cynical and obvious take. The "vehicle" modes represented a similar altmode of each bot, prior to the Beast Wars. Megatron being some kind of osprey, Tarantulas a bike etc
Could be mistaken, but I think it’s all new's head cannon
Take also means an opinion or assessment
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That kind of thinking is what led to such things as "Tigatron and Airazor were previously alive back on Cybertron before they were born on Earth" and "Optimus Primal and Megatron are veterans who actually fought back in the Great War alongside their ancient ancestors" that certain expanded universe media made use of.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
What are you talking about? Of course he doesn't run when he can fly. He chooses to fly instead of run because he now actually has that option. He flies because he wants to! But when he first got that ability, he sucked at it! He had to learn how do it properly and get the hang of it!AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Transmetal Cheetor never runs. Only using the jets. Every other TM character does at least walk around in their beast mode. Therefore if everyone else does it, the omission wasn't a budget thing. It's not "clutching at straws" to perceive non-linear visual narrative. Just takes not viewing everything through a strictly insular perspective.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What are you talking about? Of course he doesn't run when he can fly. He chooses to fly instead of run because he now actually has that option. He flies because he wants to! But when he first got that ability, he sucked at it! He had to learn how do it properly and get the hang of it!
Sabrblade wrote:If he had always been a flier back on Cybertron, it makes him look like an idiot always struggling and crashing when he first gets back that ability as a Transmetal.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Pester Hasbro to make this retool in Selects.First-Aid wrote::-(![]()
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(Still mourning Transtech)
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Well, if you have to go, go in that thread.First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Pester Hasbro to make this retool in Selects.First-Aid wrote:(Still mourning Transtech)
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I think there's a little pee coming out of me....
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Debatable.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Before clicking on the links, one question: Was Nightscream ever envisioned as a better character?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Debatable.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Before clicking on the links, one question: Was Nightscream ever envisioned as a better character?
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