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You're only describing the Unicron Battles and neglecting the rest of the series. Frankly, that story arc was the best part of the series, and yet it only took up about 20% of the whole show.Blurrz wrote:Armada is a great series. Minus the kids, which ALL series has, Armada has one of the most epic endings ever. Grand battle on Cybertron, Unicron's revival. It's freaking amazing. My favorite series, ever.
See it. Watch it. Love it! THIS, I COMMAND!smiggy3000 wrote:I was making a bad joke about Animated, i've not seen in yet.
Optimus combined with Jetfire in Armada, not Cybertron. In that series, it was either Leobreaker or Wing Saber. And at least during those five minutes we got some humor out of it like:smiggy3000 wrote:What realy bothered me about 'Cybertron' was the team ups when they connected. The giant claw wasn't that bad, but it was the 5 minuetes they wasted each episode trying to combine Optimus with Jetfire...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
skids 2.0 wrote:you moan about how G1 is better, but like me, some other people here may have never got a chance to see it!
Rial Vestro wrote:Anyway, long story short, just because you weren't around when G1 first aired doesn't mean you lost your only chance to ever see it.
Burn wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Anyway, long story short, just because you weren't around when G1 first aired doesn't mean you lost your only chance to ever see it.
That's all well and good, but for those who didn't grow up on G1 I can see why some don't feel a connection to it.
Seeing it is one thing, growing up with it and going into the stores and finding the toys is an experience in it's self.
And that goes for all the eras.
Personally, I grew up on G1, I was a kid going into the stores and seeing what I couldn't have.
Now I can watch a series go into a store and pretty much have what I want.
Know which one I enjoy more? Being the kid. It was far more exciting. That's why I connect more with G1 and I can see why others don't.
Burn wrote:Seeing it is one thing, growing up with it and going into the stores and finding the toys is an experience in it's self.
Personally, I grew up on G1, I was a kid going into the stores and seeing what I couldn't have.
Now I can watch a series go into a store and pretty much have what I want.
Know which one I enjoy more? Being the kid. It was far more exciting. That's why I connect more with G1 and I can see why others don't.
Justicity wrote:smiggy3000 wrote:At least we can all agree that Transformers Animated is now the worst...
I don't.
Obviously it's not as unanimous as you think.
smiggy3000 wrote:I know what you mean, i've started re-watching Beast Wars after I watched the first series of Beast Machines. I'm on a one-a-day habbit and the characters are more fleshed out compared to G1, and the small cast alows mroe focus on both sides at times. Beast Machines though had a ridiculously small cast, and no proper enviroment...
smiggy3000 wrote:Unfortunatley that may make the new movie bad in some respects as they make the cast larger, but only for the sake of making it larger, so that the new transformers arn't well thought out...
i_amtrunks wrote:It's part of the fandom.
Plenty of people said Beast Wars was crap compared to G1, then more hated against Beast Machines.
The hate then transferred to the AEC trilogy and Animated, as they were released.
It's a rose coloured glasses kinda deal.
Rial Vestro wrote:G1 flaws vs Unicron Trilligy Flaws.
G1 Had out of whack character origins offten telling multiple different origins for the same characters.
Rial Vestro wrote:Basically while G1 has it's flaws, they're more forgivable because they don't effect the entire series. You can easily ignore 2 of the Constructicon origins and just stick to the one you like the best.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:G1 flaws vs Unicron Trilligy Flaws.
G1 Had out of whack character origins offten telling multiple different origins for the same characters.
Thats not exactly true.Rial Vestro wrote:Basically while G1 has it's flaws, they're more forgivable because they don't effect the entire series. You can easily ignore 2 of the Constructicon origins and just stick to the one you like the best.
Technically none of the "origins" are in conflict with each other.
Rial Vestro wrote:How do you figure that?
Rial Vestro wrote:
The first time we see the Constructicons Megatron flat out says "It was worth all that time building them."
Rial Vestro wrote: but later in the series it's shown that they allready exsisted on Cybertron and Megatron simply reprograms them.
Rial Vestro wrote:The only one that really isn't in conflict is the one where the Constructicons built Megatron, ignoring that fact that there were 7 Constructicons in that scene.
Rial Vestro wrote:The only way you could really say that the origins aren't in conflect is if you ignore the fact that Megatron claims to have built them
Rial Vestro wrote: I really hope that for once I'm actully remembering this correctly but wasn't the whole point of even haveing the Constructicons so they could build the space bridge?
Rial Vestro wrote: Or am I rememebering this wrong again and they allready had the space bridge before the Constructicons were introduced?
Rial Vestro wrote:
Don't make me think right now, I've got too many things happening all at once right now, my brain's on overload, I haven't had a full night sleep in the last 2 weeks.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
He first revealed his Trans-phase Mode in episode 27 "Detection".Rial Vestro wrote:Again Sideways. I'm working for Unicron, now I'm going to randomly turn into Nemesis Prime, now I'm Sideways again, and oh wait I'm really Unicron. Not to mention that nothing Sideways ever did made any gawd damn sence. He was my favorite character for all of like what, 3 episodes? When did he turn into what looked like the static you see on old TVs when they don't have cable. That was about when Sideways became the stupidest TF ever sence nothing made any sence after that.
After Galvatron sacrificed himself, his body became the decayed corpse seen in Energon.Rial Vestro wrote:Megatron was NOT turned to stone, he sacrificed himself to stop Unicron, and he never had a sword in Armada. The only sword they could have been talking about that he used was the Star Saber which was a completly different sword in Energon than Megatron's sword. So, Megatron's stone carcus should not of even exsisted and Alpha Q should not of been able to pull a sword from it sence neither of thoughs things had anything to do with the events of Armada. It allso wouldn't make sence that after sacrificing himself to stop Unicron in Armada that same Megatron would be spending all of Energon trying to revive Unicron. That just doesn't make any sence.
How does "Collect Them All" or "Gotta Catch'em All" make no sense? We do it all the time as fans collecting teh TF figures. We do it for a hobby, and they did it because the Mini-Cons had powers in them.Rial Vestro wrote:Now Armada made no freaking sence to begin with...
That's a rather poor argument cuz ROTF was cool. Ignore the critcs, they're butchers and nitpickers.Rial Vestro wrote:I suddenly want to go watch ROTF.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:How does "Collect Them All" or "Gotta Catch'em All" make no sense? We do it all the time as fans collecting teh TF figures. We do it for a hobby, and they did it because the Mini-Cons had powers in them.Rial Vestro wrote:Now Armada made no freaking sence to begin with...
Sabrblade wrote:That's a rather poor argument cuz ROTF was cool. Ignore the critcs, they're butchers and nitpickers.Rial Vestro wrote:I suddenly want to go watch ROTF.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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