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ZeroWolf wrote:Children's toys? Yes but the comics are geared for older fans, teenagers at least. Thus more mature storytelling is encouraged.
Sparkimus Prime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Children's toys? Yes but the comics are geared for older fans, teenagers at least. Thus more mature storytelling is encouraged.
IDW comics were included in a lot of the recent Generations toys. You can't really separate the two. My point was the comics are meant for all audiences.
Skritz wrote:The worst of IDW Transformers has certainly been, in spite of everything else, the issue of continuity and the multiple titles and multiple writers. The sheer density of retcon, rewrites and continuity shifting so endemic to comics has simply made it an impossible to follow mess. The addition of the rest of the Hasbro properties has only made this worse. This simply is not the same creature that was Furman's original idea to reboot the franchise back in the early 2000 but rather turned into the pet abomination of fanboys canonizing their own silly ideas or, as people sometimes call it, inmates running the asylum.![]()
IDW Transformers is a mess. I'm glad it is getting put out of it's misery.
ZeroWolf wrote:Yet that also stopped not long after it started with only the thrilling 30 and combiner wars deluxes doing it (only American editions at that). So I don't think kids will be reading them now...not that they would have then as it really wasn't wise plonking people right in the middle of an arc, or with the case of combiner wars, splitting the story up in waves that a collector may not even see them all at retail.
All that aside though, I don't think kids are that bother by tf comics, so we shouldn't force the comics to be all ages when it can tackle darker themes and more complex issues.
Va'al wrote:Sparkimus Prime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Children's toys? Yes but the comics are geared for older fans, teenagers at least. Thus more mature storytelling is encouraged.
IDW comics were included in a lot of the recent Generations toys. You can't really separate the two. My point was the comics are meant for all audiences.
Va'al wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Yet that also stopped not long after it started with only the thrilling 30 and combiner wars deluxes doing it (only American editions at that). So I don't think kids will be reading them now...not that they would have then as it really wasn't wise plonking people right in the middle of an arc, or with the case of combiner wars, splitting the story up in waves that a collector may not even see them all at retail.
All that aside though, I don't think kids are that bother by tf comics, so we shouldn't force the comics to be all ages when it can tackle darker themes and more complex issues.
Thing is though, children's media already tackles all of those 'more complex' issues.
Look at anything Disney and Pixar have put out in past 10 years. Or Laika. Or any YA book. If people are willing to complain about 'simple' toys taking kids for dumb when they're not, then we should also stop taking kids for dumb when providing them with potentially challenging media!
Sparkimus Prime wrote:Va'al wrote:Sparkimus Prime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Children's toys? Yes but the comics are geared for older fans, teenagers at least. Thus more mature storytelling is encouraged.
IDW comics were included in a lot of the recent Generations toys. You can't really separate the two. My point was the comics are meant for all audiences.
If that was meant to be a joke, maybe take your job a little more seriously. If that was meant to be serious, I feel bad for you.
Sparkimus Prime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Children's toys? Yes but the comics are geared for older fans, teenagers at least. Thus more mature storytelling is encouraged.
IDW comics were included in a lot of the recent Generations toys. You can't really separate the two. My point was the comics are meant for all audiences.
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
Skritz wrote:The thing is, to me, IDW Transformers was on a downward slope before even politics reared their ugly head simple because of the aforementioned issue of continuity and fanboys running the asylum. It's not to say fan-pandering is inherently bad but with a 13-years old continuity it run the risk of becoming (and did become) an inapproachable mess of self-referential continuity and fan-pandering. A story need to be able to be relatively self contained with a beginning/middle/end and comics with their ongoing nature and often drastic changes in writers are terrible at wrapping stories up compared to cartoons. By the very nature of the medium, it's function and desire you WANT to keep things running whereas a TV show usually knows it only has a few seasons.
I'm glad it's ending with a bang but I still abide by my point that it's dragged on for way too long.
ZeroWolf wrote:Skritz wrote:The thing is, to me, IDW Transformers was on a downward slope before even politics reared their ugly head simple because of the aforementioned issue of continuity and fanboys running the asylum. It's not to say fan-pandering is inherently bad but with a 13-years old continuity it run the risk of becoming (and did become) an inapproachable mess of self-referential continuity and fan-pandering. A story need to be able to be relatively self contained with a beginning/middle/end and comics with their ongoing nature and often drastic changes in writers are terrible at wrapping stories up compared to cartoons. By the very nature of the medium, it's function and desire you WANT to keep things running whereas a TV show usually knows it only has a few seasons.
I'm glad it's ending with a bang but I still abide by my point that it's dragged on for way too long.
Try telling that to the big two comic makers![]()
Also thirteen years is quite ironic don't you think considering the franchise
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