Convotron wrote:Doubledealer25 wrote:ROTF HA sideswipe and ROTF soundwave. now soundwave is not as bad as sideswipe. its it a robot crammed in a car, and the car is on his back. i dont know about u guys but i like it when the car is part of the actual robot! Ex: ROTF leader prime, the truck is not folded up on his back, the truck is cut in to pieces and in different places. and the ironhide/ratchet issue is annoying but once you have fixed it he transforms alot easier, aside from getting the spine thing in place in robot, it is a struggle.
I feel the same way. I actually want a degree of vehicle kibble in bot mode as it's a visual reminder that this is a robot that turns into something else. As long as the kibble is a coherent part of the bot design, I like it. If it's just there due to poor design, it has no where else to go or can't be configured in another way, that's when I criticize kibble.
Classics Ironhide/Ratchet, to me, isn't ugly in bot mode. It looks like a robot that is also a vehicle so I like it. The feet are clunky, but they work well as the support structure(my Henkei Ratchet has never fallen over thanks to his clown shoes). I don't mind the backpack, it's mostly the poor design of the head placement and broken up alt design that I don't like in the figure.
Still not as bad as TFM Payload.







