Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:So, you remember how in season 3 of G1, it featured a future team of Autobots, led by Optimus' successor Rodimus Prime, and Decepticons, led by a redesigned Megatron, now known as Galvatron?
It didn't work out all that well. Mostly because the attempt at passing the torch was done incredibly heavy-handed, and no one became particularly attached to the new guys, like they were with Optimus Prime and Megatron. That, and the animation took a nosedive that season.
Ultra Markus wrote:Shadowman wrote:So, you remember how in season 3 of G1, it featured a future team of Autobots, led by Optimus' successor Rodimus Prime, and Decepticons, led by a redesigned Megatron, now known as Galvatron?
It didn't work out all that well. Mostly because the attempt at passing the torch was done incredibly heavy-handed, and no one became particularly attached to the new guys, like they were with Optimus Prime and Megatron. That, and the animation took a nosedive that season.
actually i remember season three well and the animation (except a few episodes)was done as good as the previous seasons and it lasted for a good period of time ,season four was the one that didn't work out well and the animation was not as good and i remember when i was a kid me and my friends were totally into the new guys as were other kids i knew back then
were you even around back then as a kid?
RhA wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:Shadowman wrote:So, you remember how in season 3 of G1, it featured a future team of Autobots, led by Optimus' successor Rodimus Prime, and Decepticons, led by a redesigned Megatron, now known as Galvatron?
It didn't work out all that well. Mostly because the attempt at passing the torch was done incredibly heavy-handed, and no one became particularly attached to the new guys, like they were with Optimus Prime and Megatron. That, and the animation took a nosedive that season.
actually i remember season three well and the animation (except a few episodes)was done as good as the previous seasons and it lasted for a good period of time ,season four was the one that didn't work out well and the animation was not as good and i remember when i was a kid me and my friends were totally into the new guys as were other kids i knew back then
were you even around back then as a kid?
Akom was responsible for all the horridness of Five Faces of Darkness and quite a few other episodes. Over the whole, yes, animation went down. Not enough studio Ox.
I'd be up for another round of non-Optimus shows. BW was great, Victory and Masterforce were awesome. Why the h*ll not?
Drift082111 wrote:I think Optimus and Megatron are the main perpetuating characters. They have helped to establish a great lore and I don't think there's any point in trying to establish 2 new factions into the future. I hope the story of Optimus and the Autobots vs. Megatron and the Decepticons will be told for generations. This comparison may be a bit off, but it'd almost be like trying to get used to the attempts I've witnessed with many newer comic book characters. I think it takes a certain amount of the right x-factor or indescribable quality to garner fandom and genuine love for such fictitious characters.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Burn wrote:Much like Rescue Bots. Only more violent.
That Bot wrote:Maybe several Primes later, to the point where the great Autobot/Decepticon war is the stuff of legend, and members of the two factions now coexist relatively peacefully. Maybe war could be rekindled by a rogue Cybertronian terrorist and members of both factions align both with and against him so you've got good guy 'bots and 'cons and bad guy 'bots and 'cons. They could come up with new unifying faction names to alleviate confusion, or they could ramp up the fact that you can't tell who fights for what just by what picture is on their shoulder like you could in the good old days. Or we could do splinter factions, or, or.....
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
DJrasmo wrote:Beast Wars = Phail.
DJrasmo wrote:2. Smooth transition from "last-gen" to "next-gen". The movie and G2 failed at this, and Animated did okay...turning Ratchet into a "Kup-esque" character and constantly reminiscing about the Great War was a great bit...but it was totally washed by having ANOTHER Optimus Prime paradoxically present.
DJrasmo wrote:3. Re-invent, but dont OVER-reinvent. AkA "The reason Beast Wars failed". GET AWAY from "ZOMG Unicron might stiiiiiilll be around"; "Prime/Megatron could stiiiiill be resurrected"; etc.
DJrasmo wrote:4. Plot devices = GOOD; Mcguffins = BAD (*cough* Animated Allspark Key *cough*).
DJrasmo wrote:the importing of G1 from Japan
DJrasmo wrote:G1 was basically a laundry list of bots in a cartoon designed to SELL TOYS...how many of you can remember anything note-worthy ever done by the likes of Powerglide or Cosmos? Even Reflector was little more than a Red Shirt Star Trek Ensign included only to increase the ranks of the Decepticons and sell his associated toy, and he had the most screen time of almost all the "junior varsity" bots. On the other hand, I bet most of you remember the flashbacks of how Elita 1 became Blackarachnia or Ratchet's first meeting with Lockdown.
People will buy G1 Powerglide or Cosmos simply to "fill in a slot on the G1 shelf"...but they actually WANT to get Animated toys because they are part of the storyline...part of the UNIVERSE...which is the entire reason behind why my personal collection concentration has shifted from G1 (which is admittedly only about 2/3 complete) to getting the entire Animated line FIRST.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
DJrasmo wrote:"MacGuffin = plot device. Whereas a Deus Ex Machina is a plot device that ends the story, a MacGuffin is a plot device that pushes the story forward."
Congrats on your dictionary nazism...but I was simply referring to a "macguffin" in the stereotypical sense of a recurring plot device that means InstaJib For The Win...such as the Allspark Key in Animated, Voltron forming together, or Prince Adam becoming He-Man.
DJrasmo wrote:"You mean the importing of G1 to Japan, right?"
Um, not really...considering the whole ideology was originally created IN JAPAN as Microman and Diaclone. The idea of transforming robot toys was popular with kids in Japan, and the show was created afterwards to help provide a small boost to sales.
DJrasmo wrote:the show was used (in typical American media-saturating fashion) to push the toys, including the addition of new characters, new series, and re-dubbing for more interesting dialogue.
DJrasmo wrote:I much preferred it the way it was...as a small core of central characters who progress and grow throughout the show. They could have just as easily introduced NEW characters to fill the same purpose...
DJrasmo wrote:but chose instead to try and re-saturate us with old characters.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
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