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Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys

Transformers News: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys

Tuesday, May 3rd, 2016 6:22PM CDT

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Answering the community's request, Logan79 has now done comparisons between the two sets of stock images Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with the G1 toys. He had previously compared them to the animation models. This helps us see what probably inspired the designers for particular colour choices in the Hasbro version. For instance, the unbroken white cockpit of Hasbro's Lightsteed in vehicle mode is far more similar to the original Lightspeed toy than the animation model. The toy photos come from the always accessible Seibertron galleries of G1 Lightspeed, Afterburner, Scattershot, Nosecone and Strafe. Just to note, while the stock photos were used, the Hasbro Afterburnerbreaker actually shares the same headsculpt as Takara's and this was seen on the Botcon show floor.

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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786658)
Posted by Deadput on May 3rd, 2016 @ 7:11pm CDT
Don't know about you guys but if I was getting both (If I would get any of the sets I would get both not just one) I would repurpose the Hasbro Strafe and Nosecone as the obscure Protectobots Skyfeather and Heatrock and the Lightspeed as Red Alert.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786659)
Posted by Kurona on May 3rd, 2016 @ 7:13pm CDT
omg, Hasbro Strafe having a cockpit where the original had a black Rubsign is the most adorable thing ever
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786671)
Posted by Logan. on May 3rd, 2016 @ 8:12pm CDT
Updated the FIRST POST

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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786680)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 3rd, 2016 @ 8:59pm CDT
Looks like there is a LOT of room for Takara to take another pass at Victorion and the Rust Renegades, the Hasbro toys and the IDW art color layouts really don't match at all.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786681)
Posted by Gunmetal on May 3rd, 2016 @ 9:13pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Looks like there is a LOT of room for Takara to take another pass at Victorion and the Rust Renegades, the Hasbro toys and the IDW art color layouts really don't match at all.


Looks like it will become common with characters based around new toys (as opposed to those based on classic characters).
First, Hasbro designs the character.
Second, IDW stylizes the character for the art.
Finally, we all talk about how Hasbro "screwed up" the "original" design. :roll:

The same thing happened with Windblade.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786695)
Posted by Flashwave on May 3rd, 2016 @ 10:56pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Don't know about you guys but if I was getting both (If I would get any of the sets I would get both not just one) I would repurpose the Hasbro Strafe and Nosecone as the obscure Protectobots Skyfeather and Heatrock and the Lightspeed as Red Alert.


WIsh you hadn't have said that...

I was actually looking at CW Light Speed and thinking Red Alert. And as excited as I am for the Blast Off basemold, I do like CW Strafe better, It's the above mount gull wings and the cockpit.

And as much as I think the Unite Nosecone is a MUCH better figure I honestly feel like the Brawl Robot mode better captures Nosecone.

I'll do you one better though, CW Strafe, CW Nosecone as Heatrock and Sky feather, plus ROok (orphaned by Groove), and CW Mirage as the members of Big Rescue Force.

I also don't like all the deep red on Afterburner. I really don't like the Deep red on any of them, although points do get earned for the unified paint scheme. I'm not sure I like how patchwork CW Burner is, but I prefer his colors.

Dammit... looks like I am double dipping.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786696)
Posted by Mkoch153 on May 3rd, 2016 @ 11:23pm CDT
Still confused on this one... Don't feel like getting both.. Prefer the Harsbro UW colors, and general modern Computron look.. however the individual bots (esp. Strafe, light speed and nosecone) look exceptional from Takara. Ideally I'd have to get the Takara version, then get the Perfect Effect kit to swap the head and chest and add feet and hands. then I'd need stickers from reprolabels to be get it halfway right. Is it worth the effort?...I dunno
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786762)
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 4th, 2016 @ 8:43am CDT
I wish Hasbro would've went through with upscaling the Prime Terrorcons to deluxe size. At least we would've had AN Abominus to go with Computron.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786773)
Posted by Seibertron on May 4th, 2016 @ 9:41am CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:I wish Hasbro would've went through with upscaling the Prime Terrorcons to deluxe size. At least we would've had AN Abominus to go with Computron.


We'll get a proper Abominus at some point. And the rest of the animal based Combiners. I'm fairly certain we'll see all of them based on what Hasbro has said to me in interviews over the past couple of years, and with them hearing all of the fan comments about those combiners, Hasbro asking if we wanted to see the animal combiners after Titans Return at BotCon, and so on.

If they can reverse engineer Chromedome out of the Dead End/Prowl mold, than I'm confident we can get Terrorcons, Predacons, and Seacons out of guys like Skullcruncher, Weirdwolf, Mindwipe, Doublecross, etc.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786798)
Posted by Logan. on May 4th, 2016 @ 12:14pm CDT
Updated the FIRST POST

Seibertron G1 Toys: Comparisons (Masterpiece Ramjet)

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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786810)
Posted by jaws on May 4th, 2016 @ 1:25pm CDT
Victorion really doesn't match any of the drawings, whether IDW or even the poster that comes with her.
Some differences between her and the poster: red versus grey hands, a lot more green, the center of the torso is red not black. odd that Hasbro's artist could match the figure to their own artwork.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786849)
Posted by CruciblePrime on May 4th, 2016 @ 4:17pm CDT
This might have been a little better...
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1786994)
Posted by Logan. on May 5th, 2016 @ 10:30am CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1787020)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 5th, 2016 @ 2:30pm CDT
These Shockwave pics remind me that Cheetimus recently revealed his customized take on MP Shockwave:

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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1787068)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 5th, 2016 @ 6:45pm CDT
MP Shockwave's purple is way too bright. :shock:
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1787235)
Posted by Logan. on May 6th, 2016 @ 1:21pm CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1787439)
Posted by Logan. on May 7th, 2016 @ 8:33am CDT
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Shockwave (Legends)
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1787853)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on May 8th, 2016 @ 5:11pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:MP Shockwave's purple is way too bright. :shock:

Still beats pink Hot Rod.


BTW, wow, a lot of work has gone into these things. Bravo, Logan79 :APPLAUSE: :BOWDOWN:
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1787981)
Posted by Logan. on May 9th, 2016 @ 2:26am CDT
Thanks Optimum Supreme^^
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1788169)
Posted by Logan. on May 9th, 2016 @ 5:21pm CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1788332)
Posted by Logan. on May 10th, 2016 @ 3:29am CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1788615)
Posted by Logan. on May 11th, 2016 @ 5:11am CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1788899)
Posted by Logan. on May 12th, 2016 @ 8:20am CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1788924)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 12th, 2016 @ 9:47am CDT
While you got Brainstorm out, how bout some with his IDW MTMTE design? Since the Voyager was based on that one (the forthcoming Titans Return on is more the traditional G1 look). ;)
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1788952)
Posted by Logan. on May 12th, 2016 @ 10:51am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:While you got Brainstorm out, how bout some with his IDW MTMTE design? Since the Voyager was based on that one (the forthcoming Titans Return on is more the traditional G1 look). ;)


A pleasure, please Sabrblade, could you give me a good IDW Brainstorm image for the comparison?^ ^
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1788955)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 12th, 2016 @ 11:00am CDT
Logan79 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:While you got Brainstorm out, how bout some with his IDW MTMTE design? Since the Voyager was based on that one (the forthcoming Titans Return on is more the traditional G1 look). ;)


A pleasure, please Sabrblade, could you give me a good IDW Brainstorm image for the comparison?^ ^
Certainly.

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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1788981)
Posted by Logan. on May 12th, 2016 @ 12:31pm CDT
Ready sir ;)



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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1788992)
Posted by TK415 on May 12th, 2016 @ 1:29pm CDT
Logan79 wrote:Ready sir ;)



Updated the FIRST POST

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Good idea and nice work and gentlemen. Very cool, thanks.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1789132)
Posted by Logan. on May 12th, 2016 @ 7:05pm CDT
Thanks for your appreciation TK415^^
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1789145)
Posted by Logan. on May 12th, 2016 @ 7:59pm CDT
Updated the FIRST POST
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1789266)
Posted by Logan. on May 13th, 2016 @ 6:33am CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1789588)
Posted by Logan. on May 14th, 2016 @ 10:50am CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1790857)
Posted by Logan. on May 19th, 2016 @ 12:31pm CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1792568)
Posted by Logan. on May 25th, 2016 @ 2:41pm CDT
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Dead End (Deluxe)
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1793719)
Posted by Logan. on May 30th, 2016 @ 5:49pm CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1793818)
Posted by Logan. on May 31st, 2016 @ 9:55am CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1794962)
Posted by Logan. on June 4th, 2016 @ 6:11pm CDT
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Breakdown (Deluxe)
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1795444)
Posted by Logan. on June 7th, 2016 @ 4:10am CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1796135)
Posted by Logan. on June 9th, 2016 @ 4:31am CDT
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Thrust (Thanks to Cyberpath for the cartoon accurate image)

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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1796318)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 9th, 2016 @ 2:31pm CDT
Logan79, thanks for keeping this thread going. I've got just a small constructive criticism for your Thrust comparisons, though. That one picture of Thrust's character model on the white background is actually a fan colored sample, not a real Sunbow colored character model. There are some shots from the original cartoon that better show off the different shades of gray on Thrust that the Masterpiece figure is going for. :)
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1796414)
Posted by Logan. on June 9th, 2016 @ 5:51pm CDT
Thanks Wolfman Jake, edited.^^
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1796423)
Posted by TK415 on June 9th, 2016 @ 6:44pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Logan79, thanks for keeping this thread going. I've got just a small constructive criticism for your Thrust comparisons, though. That one picture of Thrust's character model on the white background is actually a fan colored sample, not a real Sunbow colored character model. There are some shots from the original cartoon that better show off the different shades of gray on Thrust that the Masterpiece figure is going for. :)


Takara is definitely interested in the Sunbow cartoon images and is basing their MP and many other characters on those as closely as possible.

However, the image of Thrust is not a "fan colored sample." It is actually from the 1986 Marvel Comics Transformers Universe comics, by Bob Budiansky, Ian Akin, and Brian Garvey. They were pictures and bios for each character. First released as 4 individual comics and then released in 1987 as a trade paper back.

Dreamwave did the same thing in 2002 and 2003, calling it More Than Meets The Eye.

At the time, very fun and interesting, nice analysis of each character.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1796430)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2016 @ 6:59pm CDT
TK415 wrote:However, the image of Thrust is not a "fan colored sample." It is actually from the 1986 Marvel Comics Transformers Universe comics, by Bob Budiansky, Ian Akin, and Brian Garvey. They were pictures and bios for each character. First released as 4 individual comics and then released in 1987 as a trade paper back.
Wolfman Jake wasn't taking about that one. Logan79 already replaced the image in question with a more correctly-colored version.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1796460)
Posted by TK415 on June 9th, 2016 @ 8:33pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
TK415 wrote:However, the image of Thrust is not a "fan colored sample." It is actually from the 1986 Marvel Comics Transformers Universe comics, by Bob Budiansky, Ian Akin, and Brian Garvey. They were pictures and bios for each character. First released as 4 individual comics and then released in 1987 as a trade paper back.
Wolfman Jake wasn't taking about that one. Logan79 already replaced the image in question with a more correctly-colored version.

I see. Sabr, thank you for correction. My mistake. Sorry about that Wolfman, you were not incorrect.

Interesting, I actually viewed Wolfman's post, on my lunch break at work, prior to Logan posting:
Logan79 wrote:Thanks Wolfman Jake, edited.^^
Maybe he had already changed the image, but hadn't posted the above edit, then I posted after work. I think that is what happened I'm tired.

Anyway... You all Rock! Keep up the good work. Awesome stuff. Fun and informative.
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1796616)
Posted by Logan. on June 10th, 2016 @ 12:21pm CDT
Thanks really :D ; and thanks again to Cyberpath for the cartoon accurate image^^
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1796939)
Posted by ScottyP on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:44pm CDT
Diggin' the Landmine one, one of my favorite Pretenders and the first one I got as an adult when I went back to get the ones I didn't have :)
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1797132)
Posted by Logan. on June 12th, 2016 @ 11:31am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Diggin' the Landmine one, one of my favorite Pretenders and the first one I got as an adult when I went back to get the ones I didn't have :)


I'm glad for this Scotty^^
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1798921)
Posted by Logan. on June 19th, 2016 @ 11:22am CDT
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Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1798923)
Posted by Kurona on June 19th, 2016 @ 11:42am CDT
Gotta love the bot mode comparison between G1 and CW.
"C'mon, Lil' Motor! You can hold it!"
Re: Comparisons Between Transformers Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors Computron with G1 Toys (1799040)
Posted by Logan. on June 19th, 2016 @ 11:39pm CDT
Thanks Kurona :D

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