Full Preview of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6

You know, I had really started to buy into ScottyP's theory of the Rung/Unicron connection. I'm quite disappointed it didn't play out.






So what do you think the Getaway gang (props if you remember them from the 80's) are up to?

We're catching up with Getaway and the Lost Light in Issue 10. I kinda hope it involves Mirage's group coming back, First Aid going "what the fuck" and two seconds later Defensor tearing up half the ship.

Kurona wrote:We're catching up with Getaway and the Lost Light in Issue 10. I kinda hope it involves Mirage's group coming back, First Aid going "what the ****" and two seconds later Defensor tearing up half the ship.

I like you, you are good people. When the revolution comes, I'll see to it you are on the protected scrolls.*












*I may have had a but to drink tonight.

Oh that Milne cover is excellent (and also how rumors start!)

I'd probably be immediately apprehensive of it happening as Unicron is one of those things in Transformers I generally don't enjoy the concept of - or, at least, the religion-specific aspects of it - but IDW's post-DOOP stories have earned my trust to the extent I'd be very willing to see where they'd go with it.

ScottyP wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:You know, I had really started to buy into ScottyP's theory of the Rung/Unicron connection. I'm quite disappointed it didn't play out.

Me too That is all I can say about that right now.

Randomhero wrote:To have Unicron show up proves primus is real which essentially says God is real and here he is, IDW has spent 12 years avoiding anything primus or Unicron as an actual thing.

I have three points.

1 - Primus: More or less confirmed by the 2012 Annuals, but outside of that, they're clearly going towards the direction of having the 13 be a thing and it is very much looking like it's more-or-less direct from Covenant of Primus, backstory wise. This makes the 13 each a part of Primus. They are his divided self.

2 - Unicron: John Barber is on record (with our podcast) in saying that they almost teased him at the end of Dark Cybertron to go in that direction, they just weren't sure they were yet capable or ready to tell an effective story with him. His phrasing was "Where do you go?", so it's good they recognized they didn't think they had a fleshed out enough plan to move forward on it. I don't think they'll have a single reservation about bringing him in if they think the time is right and they have a good story.

3 - On IDW "avoiding" them: This was a Simon Furman thing at the start of the IDW run and it made complete sense at the time. Unicron was well worn by the shows at that point. However, since Transformers: Cybertron concluded, the only real Unicron material has been in TF: Prime and it was a little taste with the Gaia Unicron stuff (at the very, very beginning of the show, no less!) then some "meh" possession stuff in Beast Hunters. I don't think folks in general are worn out on Unicron/Primus/etc at all anymore, individual exceptions notwithstanding of course.

The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"

Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.

Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.

It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.

Randomhero wrote:The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"

Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.

Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.

It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.

Fun debate!

We can agree to disagree, or place a friendly wager, perhaps

Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.

It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.

As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. Fuck the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.

It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.

As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. **** the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.

There's already over 25 years of primus and Unicrons backstory. They never really change it. The aligned universe modified it a little to give the thirteen more characterization. If I hadn't to make a guess I'd say Hasbro is pretty tight about keeping Unicron and primus's origins the same because for ten years they were hell bent on making them and the thirteen multi universal beings which just caused more problems when they decided to make alphatrion a prime and creating the shattered glass universe.

John and James at least broke out of the norm when they made primus not Cybertron and having him splinter into 5 other deities but that just created Mortilus who ended up just being a poor mans Unicron and making an excuse to have Unicron in lore without actually using Unicron.

Depends on your interpretation. Current IDW does play quite a bit with Atheism vs. Religion and I don't feel it's a mistake that they haven't taken one particular side.