Possible Remolds of Kup and Scourge Revealed

I hate to say it, but for some reason the not-Kup head reminds me of Hot Shot.

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Blurrz wrote:Kup

Almost reminds me of Armada Smokescreen/Hoist. I could also see Gears in that head... and that Orion Pax (or Optronix?) guess could be interesting, as well.

"Kup" could be the Action Master Kick-off.

I don't get a massive Gears or Orion Pax vibe from the Kup remould. Any other ideas? Is there a Micromaster pickup truck somewhere?

I hope that's Orion Pax.

DavidT wrote:See what I mean!

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ratbat_(G1)

Ya, ratbat all the way. I got a gears feeling from the kup one too. Looks like my new rule of no repaints is ganna be broken real quick.

Fender Bender wrote:So....Botcon releases that have become redundant due to a general release figure coming out so far:
2005 Ironhide
2005 Ratchet
2007 Springer
2007 Thrust
2007 Dirge
2007 Huffer
2009 Kup
2009 Scourge
2009 Banzaitron
2009 Leozack

Some of these figues shouldn't be on a Classics "redundancy" list. PCC Huffer doesn't replace BotCon Huffer for the "Classics" shelf. Power Core Combiners is its own continutiy, which now seems to actually be part of the extended live action movie continutiy. Similarly, Banzaitron is technically a movie figure.

BotCon Ironhide and Ratchet were released two years before "Classics" even existed, are totally outclassed by their Universe 2.0 incarnations, especially in robot mode.

BotCon Kup is really a much younger, alternate history version of Kup, whereas the Generations figure is obviously the choice for the character we all know and love from G1 in terms of alt mode and his grizzled old-man face.

With Springer, we get two distinct figures representing one each of his triple changer alt modes from G1.

BotCon Scourge was great for a time, but such an important character really does deserve his own "Classics" mold instead of a repaint and head swap of another character from another continuity's toyline.

BotCon Thrust and Dirge are still unique from their Generations Counterparts. Thrust has different tooling between the two versions, and BotCon Dirge is just a Ramjet repaint, while Generages Dirge has all new wing moldings.

So, that really leaves Leozack, but all signs are pointing towards the Generations Scourge repaint/remold being "Senator" Ratbat instead.

I don't think Hasbro is really stepping on FunPub's toes at all with its recent releases.

The head on the first one looks alot like "Megatron:Origin" Ratbat or G1 Leozack.

Kup... You got me...Huffer?..Crosshairs?..

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Fender Bender wrote:So....Botcon releases that have become redundant due to a general release figure coming out so far:
2005 Ironhide
2005 Ratchet
2007 Springer
2007 Thrust
2007 Dirge
2007 Huffer
2009 Kup
2009 Scourge
2009 Banzaitron
2009 Leozack

Some of these figues shouldn't be on a Classics "redundancy" list. PCC Huffer doesn't replace BotCon Huffer for the "Classics" shelf. Power Core Combiners is its own continutiy, which now seems to actually be part of the extended live action movie continutiy. Similarly, Banzaitron is technically a movie figure.

BotCon Ironhide and Ratchet were released two years before "Classics" even existed, are totally outclassed by their Universe 2.0 incarnations, especially in robot mode.

BotCon Kup is really a much younger, alternate history version of Kup, whereas the Generations figure is obviously the choice for the character we all know and love from G1 in terms of alt mode and his grizzled old-man face.

With Springer, we get two distinct figures representing one each of his triple changer alt modes from G1.

BotCon Scourge was great for a time, but such an important character really does deserve his own "Classics" mold instead of a repaint and head swap of another character from another continuity's toyline.

BotCon Thrust and Dirge are still unique from their Generations Counterparts. Thrust has different tooling between the two versions, and BotCon Dirge is just a Ramjet repaint, while Generages Dirge has all new wing moldings.

So, that really leaves Leozack, but all signs are pointing towards the Generations Scourge repaint/remold being "Senator" Ratbat instead.

I don't think Hasbro is really stepping on FunPub's toes at all with its recent releases.

For the most part I agree.
*Ironhide and Ratchet replace a worse mold and mediocre Botcon head molds. Upgrade IMO.
*Springer is redundant only because of Fansproject to me. The Hasbro offerings were just nothing interesting for my money.
*Thrust and Dirge, yeah. I'll concede here. The new ones are pretty near perfect though and I gladly replaced my Botcon versions with them.
*Huffer is still the most "Classic" version we've gotten. That's despite my fondness for the PCC 2 packs.
*Kup, he was a stand-in for me at best until we got something nicer. We are now and I'm still unsure whether or not to box him away since he fits a subsect of my "Classic" display.
*Scourge, Kinda the same deal as Kup for me. Except I definately want to keep them out. Maybe I can just group the historical segment of that years set together and display it all.
*Banzaitron, IMO, Botcon version wins. No contest. I love the colors on the ROTF mold but he fits nowhere in a "Classic" display. Since I already own Bludgeon and my movie figures are few, he'd be very redundant.
*Leozack, I love the Energon Starscream mold in the colors used for both figures. Skyquake SHOULD be a God damn disaster but it works. I'm really hoping we get something a little more fresh with that one. The Generations Scourge mold looks very interesting.

I really like Botcon Scourge. Even when I get the new Generations Scourge Botcon Scourge may still be Scourge and the Generations one a Sweep. Maybe. Of course my space is damned limited.

The exclucive toys aren't made worthless just because there's a more regular release put out.

As for the teo new heads ... Ratbat does nothing for me. It's a tape or bust for the tape guys in my book. Having got the G1 reissues, I have a proper Ratbat. The other rings no bells.