Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com

Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com

Wednesday, September 5th, 2018 8:31pm CDT

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Many were worried that our first toy of Firestar would only end up in a few collector's hands thanks to being in the final wave, but Power of the Primes Novastar has already been seen on U.S. shelves and is currently available on Amazon.com, which have been reported on by several users throughout today! However, previous online sightings of this figure only showed up momentarily and today seems to be the first time that the figure's listing has been stable. This might be your best bet to get your hands on this late run short packed figure.

Novastar was previously found in a store in Edinboro, PA, according to Reddit user Guitarsnmotorcycles.

Transformers News: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com

Transformers News: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com

While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.

Share your thoughts on this development over at the Energon Pub Forums, and keep your eyes on Seibertron.com for more news and exciting sightings!


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Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982521)
Posted by avarathriul on September 5th, 2018 @ 8:42pm CDT
yes ordered! woot!
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982539)
Posted by Emerje on September 5th, 2018 @ 9:32pm CDT
carytheone wrote:Who can really say. I just got the Takara Tribute Optimus Prime/Orion Pax set and literally the only difference is a lot of sticker cover up. There is a sticker on the back that covers all the English writing, it's huge and goes completely from one side to the other.

My guess though would be new box and missing the Prime Master and armor.

There is a difference here. The Tribute sets were Amazon exclusives and remained as such in Japan. They were basically movie releases and the stickers were standard for those anyway. With P/CP they're going from Amazon exclusive for most of the world to mass retail in Japan where the Prime Wars Trilogy isn't a thing. New package does make more sense, but I think they'll keep the armor. I honestly thought he'd be an LG-EX release that way they could slip him into the comics and not have to worry about him not being a limb or Headmaster.

Emerje
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982562)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 5th, 2018 @ 11:39pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.


I get that Hasbro is trying to get rid of the "end of line syndrome" by making the final wave or assortment of a line mostly of repacks from earlier so there is a better chance that every unique character gets on the shelves before stores stop ordering more product. However, how does putting in a sole new figure in the last wave help that figure get better distribution at all? It's still creating scarcity because of a hugely flawed distribution system, just for a smaller selection of figures now. Why not completely exclude new releases from the final assortments? This business with Firestar and, before her, Slugslinger, seems kind of half-assed and self-defeating.
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982564)
Posted by Ultra Markus on September 5th, 2018 @ 11:55pm CDT
i had one preordered at ages three and up then i saw this and ordered it with free shipping a lot less money and a lot sooner to ship ;)^
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982571)
Posted by Flashwave on September 6th, 2018 @ 2:16am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Seibertron wrote:While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.


I get that Hasbro is trying to get rid of the "end of line syndrome" by making the final wave or assortment of a line mostly of repacks from earlier so there is a better chance that every unique character gets on the shelves before stores stop ordering more product. However, how does putting in a sole new figure in the last wave help that figure get better distribution at all? It's still creating scarcity because of a hugely flawed distribution system, just for a smaller selection of figures now. Why not completely exclude new releases from the final assortments? This business with Firestar and, before her, Slugslinger, seems kind of half-assed and self-defeating.
Because there has to be some kind of incentive for Retailers to want to buy the case. Granted, Walmart and the like probably don’t care. But the smaller guys like BBTS and Entertainment Earth that pay attention to what’s in the box might be more willing to skip a case of entirely repacks.
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982588)
Posted by Bucky on September 6th, 2018 @ 5:12am CDT
Nice! And here I thought I was going to have trouble finding her, or have to pay a premium. This is a bit of a relief. Now I’m just missing the last three Terrorcons...
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982600)
Posted by X3ROhour on September 6th, 2018 @ 6:49am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Am I the only one getting lolz from the fact that G1 Abby's head is bigger than PotP Abby's head?

heh
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982604)
Posted by william-james88 on September 6th, 2018 @ 8:30am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Seibertron wrote:While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.


I get that Hasbro is trying to get rid of the "end of line syndrome" by making the final wave or assortment of a line mostly of repacks from earlier so there is a better chance that every unique character gets on the shelves before stores stop ordering more product. However, how does putting in a sole new figure in the last wave help that figure get better distribution at all? It's still creating scarcity because of a hugely flawed distribution system, just for a smaller selection of figures now. Why not completely exclude new releases from the final assortments? This business with Firestar and, before her, Slugslinger, seems kind of half-assed and self-defeating.

I think there is some confusion as to the strategies being used to fix the end of line syndrome.

Its not making the final wave mostly repacks that is being referred to, its the strategy of having only 4. Regardless of the final wave beign repacks or all new figures, its the fact that there are 4 waves total and not 6 that really helps us here. When a line lasts longer than a year (so six waves), you lose the incentive of retailers ordering the last wave for 2 reasons:

1. they already have a bunch of stock from the same line they still have to sell
2. at 6 waves, the line isnt new anymore and retailers live off the idea that new stuff sells better (and that media backed stuff sells more, but thats another story)

So by reducing it to a yearly thing, retailers can order all 4 waves, not dreading the idea of beign stuck with last year's line still on the shelves and not selling, plus they are less likely to have overstock from previous wave build up.

So I am pretty sure thats what Seibertron was referring to with the strategy currently being used to help the distriution issues they are reading about.
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982605)
Posted by RiddlerJ on September 6th, 2018 @ 8:45am CDT
I got Firestar and Inferno. The couple is back together :-D

Of course, I could go really freaky and get Inferno with four Firestars for the ultimate Harem combiner.
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982609)
Posted by Glarryg on September 6th, 2018 @ 9:21am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Seibertron wrote:While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.


I get that Hasbro is trying to get rid of the "end of line syndrome" by making the final wave or assortment of a line mostly of repacks from earlier so there is a better chance that every unique character gets on the shelves before stores stop ordering more product. However, how does putting in a sole new figure in the last wave help that figure get better distribution at all? It's still creating scarcity because of a hugely flawed distribution system, just for a smaller selection of figures now. Why not completely exclude new releases from the final assortments? This business with Firestar and, before her, Slugslinger, seems kind of half-assed and self-defeating.

I think there is some confusion as to the strategies being used to fix the end of line syndrome.

Its not making the final wave mostly repacks that is being referred to, its the strategy of having only 4. Regardless of the final wave beign repacks or all new figures, its the fact that there are 4 waves total and not 6 that really helps us here. When a line lasts longer than a year (so six waves), you lose the incentive of retailers ordering the last wave for 2 reasons:

1. they already have a bunch of stock from the same line they still have to sell
2. at 6 waves, the line isnt new anymore and retailers live off the idea that new stuff sells better (and that media backed stuff sells more, but thats another story)

So by reducing it to a yearly thing, retailers can order all 4 waves, not dreading the idea of beign stuck with last year's line still on the shelves and not selling, plus they are less likely to have overstock from previous wave build up.

So I am pretty sure thats what Seibertron was referring to with the strategy currently being used to help the distriution issues they are reading about.


All I know is that it's September and I've barely seen anything from Wave 2 in any of the local stores. I've ordered all the figures I want from Waves 3 and 4 (and part of Wave 2) online; we're far enough past the halfway point of the year that, if I haven't seen even half of what's supposed to be in stores this year, I figure all bets are off.

Glarryg
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982617)
Posted by o.supreme on September 6th, 2018 @ 9:47am CDT
I'm pleasantly surprised Novastar was so easy to obtain on Amazon.com. The Ideal thing Hasbro should have done was make wave 4 cases 4x Novastar, 2x Moonracer and 2xBlackwing (the only ones from wave 2 that were singles).

But instead it looks like it's 2x Novastar, 2x Blackwing, and - 2x Rippersnapper and Slag (which were already prominently featured in waves 1 & 2). But oh well, such is life. I did manage to see last years TR Slugslinger in stores at least, which was better than wave 5 that didn't appear barely at all, and certainly nowhere near me. We still received no official explanation from Hasbro as to what happened. Why they were never available on HTS etc... I have a theory because they did have placeholders on TRU.com for a short time, but then went away. My guess is that some really poor decision was made to *mothball* (for lack of better term) wave 5 toys bound for TRU, and just push ahead with PotP. Which is why we are seeing these show up at Ollie's now, for those fortunate enough to live near one.

But anyway, I digress. one other thing. I'm starting to visit Walgreen's again, when I have a chance, casually before or after work on my commute. PotP Wreck-Gar's I've noticed are starting to show up on eBay, with a couple are US sellers, so while no official sighting has been reported yet, I have a feeling he may be out there soon, if not already.
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982620)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 6th, 2018 @ 9:56am CDT
o.supreme wrote:one other thing. I'm starting to visit Walgreen's again, when I have a chance, casually before or after work on my commute. PotP Wreck-Gar's I've noticed are starting to show up on eBay, with a couple are US sellers, so while no official sighting has been reported yet, I have a feeling he may be out there soon, if not already.


I don't think he's out in the US yet. Mainly because the listing is currently gone from Walgreen's site. If I remember correctly from Brainstorm and the clones, we had the initial Listing, then it got pulled, then it reappeared, and then finally they were found in the US.

I suspect the ebay sellers you see likely got their figures from sources other than Walgreens.
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982623)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 6th, 2018 @ 10:16am CDT
Image
What do people think of the Star Saber as a sword for Volcanicus?
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982624)
Posted by william-james88 on September 6th, 2018 @ 10:30am CDT
Glarryg wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Seibertron wrote:While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.


I get that Hasbro is trying to get rid of the "end of line syndrome" by making the final wave or assortment of a line mostly of repacks from earlier so there is a better chance that every unique character gets on the shelves before stores stop ordering more product. However, how does putting in a sole new figure in the last wave help that figure get better distribution at all? It's still creating scarcity because of a hugely flawed distribution system, just for a smaller selection of figures now. Why not completely exclude new releases from the final assortments? This business with Firestar and, before her, Slugslinger, seems kind of half-assed and self-defeating.

I think there is some confusion as to the strategies being used to fix the end of line syndrome.

Its not making the final wave mostly repacks that is being referred to, its the strategy of having only 4. Regardless of the final wave beign repacks or all new figures, its the fact that there are 4 waves total and not 6 that really helps us here. When a line lasts longer than a year (so six waves), you lose the incentive of retailers ordering the last wave for 2 reasons:

1. they already have a bunch of stock from the same line they still have to sell
2. at 6 waves, the line isnt new anymore and retailers live off the idea that new stuff sells better (and that media backed stuff sells more, but thats another story)

So by reducing it to a yearly thing, retailers can order all 4 waves, not dreading the idea of beign stuck with last year's line still on the shelves and not selling, plus they are less likely to have overstock from previous wave build up.

So I am pretty sure thats what Seibertron was referring to with the strategy currently being used to help the distriution issues they are reading about.


All I know is that it's September and I've barely seen anything from Wave 2 in any of the local stores. I've ordered all the figures I want from Waves 3 and 4 (and part of Wave 2) online; we're far enough past the halfway point of the year that, if I haven't seen even half of what's supposed to be in stores this year, I figure all bets are off.

Glarryg


I never said anything about these being found in pysical stores, I only spoke about retailers buying them and making them available. Novastar being available on amazon is as good as anyone would hope in this day and age since even Amazon had skipped final waves in the past (TLK Cogman, RID Heatseeker, CW Skylynx). At least in this line, that first problem is officially solved. You forget how bad it was. It wasnt just that toys were not found in stores, its that nobody in the US could actually buy them from anywhere aside from e-bay sellers. To this day, no US retailer of any kind has ever stocked RID Legion Cyclonus and Heatseeker nor the final RID minicon weaponizers. Those have officially been skipped by the entire nation. That is not the case with POTP where you were able to get all these toys online at MSRP and we probably have this new 4 wave system to thank for it.
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982636)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 6th, 2018 @ 11:14am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Image
What do people think of the Star Saber as a sword for Volcanicus?
Not a bad idea! I think the Energon Saber would fit even better! ;)^
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982664)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 6th, 2018 @ 2:27pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Glarryg wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Seibertron wrote:While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.


I get that Hasbro is trying to get rid of the "end of line syndrome" by making the final wave or assortment of a line mostly of repacks from earlier so there is a better chance that every unique character gets on the shelves before stores stop ordering more product. However, how does putting in a sole new figure in the last wave help that figure get better distribution at all? It's still creating scarcity because of a hugely flawed distribution system, just for a smaller selection of figures now. Why not completely exclude new releases from the final assortments? This business with Firestar and, before her, Slugslinger, seems kind of half-assed and self-defeating.

I think there is some confusion as to the strategies being used to fix the end of line syndrome.

Its not making the final wave mostly repacks that is being referred to, its the strategy of having only 4. Regardless of the final wave beign repacks or all new figures, its the fact that there are 4 waves total and not 6 that really helps us here. When a line lasts longer than a year (so six waves), you lose the incentive of retailers ordering the last wave for 2 reasons:

1. they already have a bunch of stock from the same line they still have to sell
2. at 6 waves, the line isnt new anymore and retailers live off the idea that new stuff sells better (and that media backed stuff sells more, but thats another story)

So by reducing it to a yearly thing, retailers can order all 4 waves, not dreading the idea of beign stuck with last year's line still on the shelves and not selling, plus they are less likely to have overstock from previous wave build up.

So I am pretty sure thats what Seibertron was referring to with the strategy currently being used to help the distriution issues they are reading about.


All I know is that it's September and I've barely seen anything from Wave 2 in any of the local stores. I've ordered all the figures I want from Waves 3 and 4 (and part of Wave 2) online; we're far enough past the halfway point of the year that, if I haven't seen even half of what's supposed to be in stores this year, I figure all bets are off.

Glarryg


I never said anything about these being found in pysical stores, I only spoke about retailers buying them and making them available. Novastar being available on amazon is as good as anyone would hope in this day and age since even Amazon had skipped final waves in the past (TLK Cogman, RID Heatseeker, CW Skylynx). At least in this line, that first problem is officially solved. You forget how bad it was. It wasnt just that toys were not found in stores, its that nobody in the US could actually buy them from anywhere aside from e-bay sellers. To this day, no US retailer of any kind has ever stocked RID Legion Cyclonus and Heatseeker nor the final RID minicon weaponizers. Those have officially been skipped by the entire nation. That is not the case with POTP where you were able to get all these toys online at MSRP and we probably have this new 4 wave system to thank for it.


It's still a weird risk for Hasbro to distribute Firestar as the ONLY new deluxe figure in the line for the final wave. For the other size classes, they're not doing that at all. Either they don't have a Wave 4, or it's just entirely repacks. They could have moved the Jazz repack to Wave 4 and put Firestar in Wave 3 instead. They did this too with Slugslinger at the end of Titans Return for no real discernible reason. If big box retailers don't care what's in the assortment, then Hasbro shouldn't fear having the final waves be all repacks. If it's a big deal to smaller/niche stores, then if they are paying closer attention to character packout, they can just skip the final wave and leave more for the big box stores hungry for inventory over the holidays.
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982724)
Posted by fenrir72 on September 6th, 2018 @ 7:59pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Image
What do people think of the Star Saber as a sword for Volcanicus?
Not a bad idea! I think the Energon Saber would fit even better! ;)^


Gonna break some house rules but if y'all remember FansProject not Convoy trailer? It came chromed weapons for the henkei releases. One of them was a bigass sword which fits perfectly for both Grimlock and Volcanicus.
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982729)
Posted by Skritz on September 6th, 2018 @ 8:43pm CDT
Has Optimal Optimus been sighted at retail yet, especially in Canada? I'm getting some mixed info on the matter. >:oP
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982730)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 6th, 2018 @ 8:46pm CDT
Skritz wrote:Has Optimal Optimus been sighted at retail yet, especially in Canada? I'm getting some mixed info on the matter. >:oP

He has been spotted in Canada. I don't think we have a US sighting yet
Re: Power of the Primes Wave 4 Deluxe Novastar currently available on Amazon.com (1982731)
Posted by william-james88 on September 6th, 2018 @ 8:51pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:Has Optimal Optimus been sighted at retail yet, especially in Canada? I'm getting some mixed info on the matter. >:oP

He has been spotted in Canada. I don't think we have a US sighting yet

correct

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