Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More!
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Fellow Seibertronian Albatross 250 has sent out way scans of the no. 240 issue of Japanse collector's magazine Figure King, which features the upcoming Power of th Primes toys. As stated before, this is a unique situation where this sort of promotion now targets everyone in the world, regardless of which is disributing the toy. It is pretty cool to see the bulk of 3 pages of a Japanese magazine feature toys you (and anyone else) will be able to purchase locally with no need to import.
This does give us images of toys no one has handled yet, like Moonracer and the remaining Dinobots (with Volcanicus getting a whole page to himself). We also get a nice shot of the combined Dreadwing mode and more of Blackwing and the Submarauder decoy armour.
Alsong with Power of the Primes, there is also Masterpiece Shadow Panther and the Takara versions for the Knight Armour Turbo Changers.
Below are all three images from the magazine, brought to us by Loopaza, enjoy!
This does give us images of toys no one has handled yet, like Moonracer and the remaining Dinobots (with Volcanicus getting a whole page to himself). We also get a nice shot of the combined Dreadwing mode and more of Blackwing and the Submarauder decoy armour.
Alsong with Power of the Primes, there is also Masterpiece Shadow Panther and the Takara versions for the Knight Armour Turbo Changers.
Below are all three images from the magazine, brought to us by Loopaza, enjoy!
Credit(s): Loopaza
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Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933455)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2018 @ 11:25am CST
If you want all of them anyway, why hesitate and don't get them at once?
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2018 @ 11:25am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:On the side, what should I go for first? Dinobots or the Dreadwing Duocons?
I think you should compromise and get Dreadwind and Swoop, come back for Slug. Dreadwind is beautiful and Swoop is the winner of wave 1.
I just may. Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos, plus I love jets, so releasing them together hasnt made my choice any easier. All I need to do is wait for Grimlock.
If you want all of them anyway, why hesitate and don't get them at once?
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933460)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 11:46am CST
Budget concerns.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 11:46am CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:On the side, what should I go for first? Dinobots or the Dreadwing Duocons?
I think you should compromise and get Dreadwind and Swoop, come back for Slug. Dreadwind is beautiful and Swoop is the winner of wave 1.
I just may. Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos, plus I love jets, so releasing them together hasnt made my choice any easier. All I need to do is wait for Grimlock.
If you want all of them anyway, why hesitate and don't get them at once?
Budget concerns.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933470)
Posted by Sabrewing on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:05pm CST
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
Posted by Sabrewing on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:05pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos,
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933474)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:14pm CST
I saw that review from TFormers ENI I think where he said that like 20 times but why isn't it one?
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:14pm CST
Sabrewing wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos,
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
I saw that review from TFormers ENI I think where he said that like 20 times but why isn't it one?
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933476)
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:16pm CST
They are according to the 80s which this line is based on.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:16pm CST
Sabrewing wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos,
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
They are according to the 80s which this line is based on.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933480)
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:21pm CST
Its just classification, like where books go in a library. It often gets revised as well. As of right now, scientists say that pteranodons do not belong in the same group called Dinosaurs (and neither do others like the plesiosaur).
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:21pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:Sabrewing wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos,
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
I saw that review from TFormers ENI I think where he said that like 20 times but why isn't it one?
Its just classification, like where books go in a library. It often gets revised as well. As of right now, scientists say that pteranodons do not belong in the same group called Dinosaurs (and neither do others like the plesiosaur).
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933487)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:50pm CST
To clarify, I aiming at the pop culture definition, which is always a lot broader than the scientific one (I mean, Power Rangers called the Mastodont and Saber Tooth Tiger dinosaurus, while they're mammals and came way after their extinction)
The clade Dinosauria is land-based for the most part, with the included current birds and some ancient Maniraptorians capable of powered flight. Flying reptiles are in the separate, but on the same level, Pterosauria, while marine reptiles are either part of Ichtyosauria or Plesiosauria.
And now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 12:50pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Sabrewing wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos,
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
I saw that review from TFormers ENI I think where he said that like 20 times but why isn't it one?
Its just classification, like where books go in a library. It often gets revised as well. As of right now, scientists say that pteranodons do not belong in the same group called Dinosaurs (and neither do others like the plesiosaur).
To clarify, I aiming at the pop culture definition, which is always a lot broader than the scientific one (I mean, Power Rangers called the Mastodont and Saber Tooth Tiger dinosaurus, while they're mammals and came way after their extinction)
The clade Dinosauria is land-based for the most part, with the included current birds and some ancient Maniraptorians capable of powered flight. Flying reptiles are in the separate, but on the same level, Pterosauria, while marine reptiles are either part of Ichtyosauria or Plesiosauria.
And now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933493)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2018 @ 1:01pm CST
I know but you can't just say "Hey, I want this one to be a dinosaur and this one not.". As books they have to have/fulfill some specific charecteristics.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 24th, 2018 @ 1:01pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Sabrewing wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos,
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
I saw that review from TFormers ENI I think where he said that like 20 times but why isn't it one?
Its just classification, like where books go in a library. It often gets revised as well. As of right now, scientists say that pteranodons do not belong in the same group called Dinosaurs (and neither do others like the plesiosaur).
I know but you can't just say "Hey, I want this one to be a dinosaur and this one not.". As books they have to have/fulfill some specific charecteristics.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933497)
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 1:11pm CST
They simply chose to only call the land based ones Dinosaurs and the others to have their own group.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 1:11pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Sabrewing wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos,
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
I saw that review from TFormers ENI I think where he said that like 20 times but why isn't it one?
Its just classification, like where books go in a library. It often gets revised as well. As of right now, scientists say that pteranodons do not belong in the same group called Dinosaurs (and neither do others like the plesiosaur).
I know but you can't just say "Hey, I want this one to be a dinosaur and this one not.". As books they have to have/fulfill some specific charecteristics.
They simply chose to only call the land based ones Dinosaurs and the others to have their own group.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933501)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on January 24th, 2018 @ 1:40pm CST
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on January 24th, 2018 @ 1:40pm CST
It might be the scans, but Moonracer is very brightly green. That's as bright as the colors on Megatronia. Mintracer would be a better name.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933505)
Posted by angtre on January 24th, 2018 @ 2:00pm CST
Posted by angtre on January 24th, 2018 @ 2:00pm CST
I didn't know that the "American Darkwings brothers" could merge, it's a nice feature that surely sells them to me. Also I like Moonracer, while I shall wait for superior-sized Dinobots (the combining gimmick still disturbs me, even if Volcanicus is totally-not-The-Beast).
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933509)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 2:20pm CST
Here's a better picture from HasCon 2017:
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 2:20pm CST
mentre83 wrote:I didn't know that the "American Darkwings brothers" could merge, it's a nice feature that surely sells them to me. Also I like Moonracer, while I shall wait for superior-sized Dinobots (the combining gimmick still disturbs me, even if Volcanicus is totally-not-The-Beast).
Here's a better picture from HasCon 2017:
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933513)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 24th, 2018 @ 2:40pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 24th, 2018 @ 2:40pm CST
Is it me or does the Takara version of Darkwing look better? Like the Hasbro one is miss-transformed?
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933528)
Posted by Agamemnon on January 24th, 2018 @ 3:39pm CST
Posted by Agamemnon on January 24th, 2018 @ 3:39pm CST
"Dinos" could have been short for "Dinobots"... 
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933531)
Posted by Va'al on January 24th, 2018 @ 3:58pm CST
Posted by Va'al on January 24th, 2018 @ 3:58pm CST
This is perhaps the least newsworthy listing that could've appeared on online retailer Amazon.com, but it does bring us further confirmation of the release of the Generations Power of the Primes (but really Combiner Wars) Blast Off figures that was initially seen with Weibo (here) and later on ACD Distribution (here).
The listing, which has no description, no price, no images, no dates, does confirm the latter coverage linked above, and comes with an ASIN (the Amazon equivalent of an ISBN) and item number, and is called 'Special Edition'. Make of that what you will, as you join the discussion in the Energon Pub!
The listing, which has no description, no price, no images, no dates, does confirm the latter coverage linked above, and comes with an ASIN (the Amazon equivalent of an ISBN) and item number, and is called 'Special Edition'. Make of that what you will, as you join the discussion in the Energon Pub!
ASIN B077YYP738
Item model number E1796
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933539)
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 24th, 2018 @ 4:38pm CST
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 24th, 2018 @ 4:38pm CST
Wish we didn't have to wait until May. I need this in my life now!
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933549)
Posted by RustedCross on January 24th, 2018 @ 5:35pm CST
Posted by RustedCross on January 24th, 2018 @ 5:35pm CST
It weighs 10 pounds???
The whole thing is die cast???
The whole thing is die cast???
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933551)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 24th, 2018 @ 5:36pm CST
I call this the second stage of early childhood development in Freud's theories!
Posted by fenrir72 on January 24th, 2018 @ 5:36pm CST
Sabrewing wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos,
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
I call this the second stage of early childhood development in Freud's theories!
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933557)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2018 @ 6:11pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 24th, 2018 @ 6:11pm CST
So have we confrimed that this is just a straight issue of the takara blast off?
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933561)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 6:35pm CST
If the art is accurate, it's a redeco. Here's a stock photo of the UW figure:
We do have a likely confirmation that he'll come with his original HFG piece and gun, not the PotP Armor Hand.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 6:35pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:So have we confrimed that this is just a straight issue of the takara blast off?
If the art is accurate, it's a redeco. Here's a stock photo of the UW figure:
We do have a likely confirmation that he'll come with his original HFG piece and gun, not the PotP Armor Hand.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933563)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2018 @ 6:52pm CST
Is Pteranodon called a flying Dinosaur? 
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2018 @ 6:52pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Sabrewing wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Pteranodon and Triceratops are my two favorite dinos,
Pteranodon is not a dinosaur.
I saw that review from TFormers ENI I think where he said that like 20 times but why isn't it one?
Its just classification, like where books go in a library. It often gets revised as well. As of right now, scientists say that pteranodons do not belong in the same group called Dinosaurs (and neither do others like the plesiosaur).
To clarify, I aiming at the pop culture definition, which is always a lot broader than the scientific one (I mean, Power Rangers called the Mastodont and Saber Tooth Tiger dinosaurus, while they're mammals and came way after their extinction)
The clade Dinosauria is land-based for the most part, with the included current birds and some ancient Maniraptorians capable of powered flight. Flying reptiles are in the separate, but on the same level, Pterosauria, while marine reptiles are either part of Ichtyosauria or Plesiosauria.
And now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Is Pteranodon called a flying Dinosaur?
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933565)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2018 @ 6:58pm CST
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2018 @ 6:58pm CST
Looks like i'm satisfied getting the Ducons soon, i mean... building an army of these isn't bad right?
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933566)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CST
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CST
I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933569)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:17pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:17pm CST
HINT: Edit button next to your Quote one
No, but birds are
We can possibly blame Shattered Glass Blot's bio for that, or maybe Prime Beast Hunters. G1 Blot didn't look like anything (even an ambulatory nose would be a good guess), and his instructions just call him "Monster".
Albatross250 wrote:Is Pteranodon called a flying Dinosaur?
No, but birds are
Albatross250 wrote:I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.
We can possibly blame Shattered Glass Blot's bio for that, or maybe Prime Beast Hunters. G1 Blot didn't look like anything (even an ambulatory nose would be a good guess), and his instructions just call him "Monster".
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933570)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:20pm CST
Posted by Black Bumblebee on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:20pm CST
Seems as if the listing has been updated since this post:
Transformers Special Edition Blast Off Action Figure
Product description
Welcome to the incredible world of Transformers robots. It is a world of high technology, ancient history, and a battle that has spanned the entire galaxy and millions of years. Optimus Prime, leader of the heroic Autobots, battles the tyrant Megatron and his evil Decepticons for the fate of freedom across the universe. There's a Transformers figure for every kid or collector. From big converting action figures to miniature battling robots to figures that change between modes in 1 step, you can team up with Transformers toys to create your own incredible adventures. Whether you're defending earth with the Autobots, or conquering space with the Decepticons, the action is up to you. Transformers is a world-famous entertainment brand with 30 years of history, blockbuster movies, hit television shows and countless novels and comic books. With Transformers robot toys, you can create your own chapters in this epic, ongoing story. Transformers and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro. This copy is intended as placeholder text only and is not representative of individual items in the line.
Still says it weighs 10 pounds though lol
Transformers Special Edition Blast Off Action Figure
Product description
Welcome to the incredible world of Transformers robots. It is a world of high technology, ancient history, and a battle that has spanned the entire galaxy and millions of years. Optimus Prime, leader of the heroic Autobots, battles the tyrant Megatron and his evil Decepticons for the fate of freedom across the universe. There's a Transformers figure for every kid or collector. From big converting action figures to miniature battling robots to figures that change between modes in 1 step, you can team up with Transformers toys to create your own incredible adventures. Whether you're defending earth with the Autobots, or conquering space with the Decepticons, the action is up to you. Transformers is a world-famous entertainment brand with 30 years of history, blockbuster movies, hit television shows and countless novels and comic books. With Transformers robot toys, you can create your own chapters in this epic, ongoing story. Transformers and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro. This copy is intended as placeholder text only and is not representative of individual items in the line.
Still says it weighs 10 pounds though lol
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933572)
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:43pm CST
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:43pm CST
Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933573)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:46pm CST
I'ts all Ogre now.
Posted by Albatross250 on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:46pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:HINT: Edit button next to your Quote oneAlbatross250 wrote:I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.
We can possibly blame Shattered Glass Blot's bio for that, or maybe Prime Beast Hunters. G1 Blot didn't look like anything (even an ambulatory nose would be a good guess), and his instructions just call him "Monster".
I'ts all Ogre now.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933574)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:54pm CST
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 24th, 2018 @ 7:54pm CST
bvzxa wrote:Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933579)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 24th, 2018 @ 8:33pm CST
So if he got into a skirmish would that be an Ogre Battle?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 24th, 2018 @ 8:33pm CST
Albatross250 wrote:I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.
So if he got into a skirmish would that be an Ogre Battle?
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933583)
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:09pm CST
Hasbro owns the Transformer brand, and yes they can tell Takara what to do when it comes to the licence of the brand. With the release of Power of the Primes it has been stated Hasbro told Takara they cannot make any changes to this line. With the fandom for the Japanese G1 Continuity Im sure we would have gotten Hydra and Buster repaints. We probably would have gotten better decos for the PotP line as well.
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:09pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:bvzxa wrote:Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Hasbro owns the Transformer brand, and yes they can tell Takara what to do when it comes to the licence of the brand. With the release of Power of the Primes it has been stated Hasbro told Takara they cannot make any changes to this line. With the fandom for the Japanese G1 Continuity Im sure we would have gotten Hydra and Buster repaints. We probably would have gotten better decos for the PotP line as well.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933586)
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:18pm CST
100% BS. Please provide links to evidence when stating outlandish things like that.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:18pm CST
bvzxa wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:bvzxa wrote:Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Hasbro owns the Transformer brand, and yes they can tell Takara what to do when it comes to the licence of the brand. With the release of Power of the Primes it has been stated Hasbro told Takara they cannot make any changes to this line.
100% BS. Please provide links to evidence when stating outlandish things like that.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933589)
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:47pm CST
How is it not? Its been talked about since the release of the line for Japan, there will be no more Takara redecos. So how is it BS if the toys have already been revealed from Takara. You go find the links but the proof is in the pudding .
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:47pm CST
william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:bvzxa wrote:Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Hasbro owns the Transformer brand, and yes they can tell Takara what to do when it comes to the licence of the brand. With the release of Power of the Primes it has been stated Hasbro told Takara they cannot make any changes to this line.
100% BS. Please provide links to evidence when stating outlandish things like that.
How is it not? Its been talked about since the release of the line for Japan, there will be no more Takara redecos. So how is it BS if the toys have already been revealed from Takara. You go find the links but the proof is in the pudding .
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933590)
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:51pm CST
Thanks for confirming that there is no proof whatsoever.
Posted by william-james88 on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:51pm CST
bvzxa wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:bvzxa wrote:Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Hasbro owns the Transformer brand, and yes they can tell Takara what to do when it comes to the licence of the brand. With the release of Power of the Primes it has been stated Hasbro told Takara they cannot make any changes to this line.
100% BS. Please provide links to evidence when stating outlandish things like that.
How is it not? Its been talked about since the release of the line for Japan, there will be no more Takara redecos. So how is it BS if the toys have already been revealed from Takara. You go find the links but the proof is in the pudding .
Thanks for confirming that there is no proof whatsoever.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933591)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:55pm CST
*grabs a random Hasbro Transformers box*
"Manufactured under license from TOMY Company Ltd."
What's that mean?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 9:55pm CST
william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:bvzxa wrote:Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Hasbro owns the Transformer brand, and yes they can tell Takara what to do when it comes to the licence of the brand. With the release of Power of the Primes it has been stated Hasbro told Takara they cannot make any changes to this line.
100% BS. Please provide links to evidence when stating outlandish things like that.
How is it not? Its been talked about since the release of the line for Japan, there will be no more Takara redecos. So how is it BS if the toys have already been revealed from Takara. You go find the links but the proof is in the pudding .
Thanks for confirming that there is no proof whatsoever.
*grabs a random Hasbro Transformers box*
"Manufactured under license from TOMY Company Ltd."
What's that mean?
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933592)
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:10pm CST
Even if its under licence, Hasbro owns the brand and IP. That's been established since 1984. All its means is licencee but the IP is Hasbro. If it were Takara's actual brand why did they get the TF line 1 year after the US if they owned it in the first place? Answer that and I'll wait... The toys may have originated form various Takara brands (remember Tomy had it's own brand and was competition for Takara until there merger in 2006) but the actual IP is Hasbro and they have more sway...thus why we are not going to get anymore Takara redecos going forward.
But you guys are the experts so...
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:10pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:bvzxa wrote:Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Hasbro owns the Transformer brand, and yes they can tell Takara what to do when it comes to the licence of the brand. With the release of Power of the Primes it has been stated Hasbro told Takara they cannot make any changes to this line.
100% BS. Please provide links to evidence when stating outlandish things like that.
How is it not? Its been talked about since the release of the line for Japan, there will be no more Takara redecos. So how is it BS if the toys have already been revealed from Takara. You go find the links but the proof is in the pudding .
Thanks for confirming that there is no proof whatsoever.
*grabs a random Hasbro Transformers box*
"Manufactured under license from TOMY Company Ltd."
What's that mean?
Even if its under licence, Hasbro owns the brand and IP. That's been established since 1984. All its means is licencee but the IP is Hasbro. If it were Takara's actual brand why did they get the TF line 1 year after the US if they owned it in the first place? Answer that and I'll wait... The toys may have originated form various Takara brands (remember Tomy had it's own brand and was competition for Takara until there merger in 2006) but the actual IP is Hasbro and they have more sway...thus why we are not going to get anymore Takara redecos going forward.
But you guys are the experts so...
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933594)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:15pm CST
Let's leave that discussion for another day, shall we?
I want my Blast Off!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:15pm CST
bvzxa wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:bvzxa wrote:Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Hasbro owns the Transformer brand, and yes they can tell Takara what to do when it comes to the licence of the brand. With the release of Power of the Primes it has been stated Hasbro told Takara they cannot make any changes to this line.
100% BS. Please provide links to evidence when stating outlandish things like that.
How is it not? Its been talked about since the release of the line for Japan, there will be no more Takara redecos. So how is it BS if the toys have already been revealed from Takara. You go find the links but the proof is in the pudding .
Thanks for confirming that there is no proof whatsoever.
*grabs a random Hasbro Transformers box*
"Manufactured under license from TOMY Company Ltd."
What's that mean?
Even if its under licence, Hasbro owns the brand and IP. That's been established since 1984. All its means is licencee but the IP is Hasbro. If it were Takara's actual brand why did they get the TF line 1 year after the US if they owned it in the first place? Answer that and I'll wait... The toys may have originated form various Takara brands (remember Tomy had it's own brand and was competition for Takara until there merger in 2006) but the actual IP is Hasbro and they have more sway...thus why we are not going to get anymore Takara redecos going forward.
But you guys are the experts so...
Let's leave that discussion for another day, shall we?
I want my Blast Off!
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933595)
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:20pm CST
I have the Unite Warriors version, and I hope Hasbro fixes some issues I have with it. I too am excited to see what they do with it
Posted by bvzxa on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:20pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bvzxa wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:william-james88 wrote:bvzxa wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:bvzxa wrote:Thanks Hasbro for being jerks and nerfing Takara as far as getting a Hydra/Buster repaint of Darkwing/Dreadwing
Hasbro hasn't done anything. They don't own Takara, they don't completely own Transformers these decisions are Takara's and Takara's alone.
Hasbro owns the Transformer brand, and yes they can tell Takara what to do when it comes to the licence of the brand. With the release of Power of the Primes it has been stated Hasbro told Takara they cannot make any changes to this line.
100% BS. Please provide links to evidence when stating outlandish things like that.
How is it not? Its been talked about since the release of the line for Japan, there will be no more Takara redecos. So how is it BS if the toys have already been revealed from Takara. You go find the links but the proof is in the pudding .
Thanks for confirming that there is no proof whatsoever.
*grabs a random Hasbro Transformers box*
"Manufactured under license from TOMY Company Ltd."
What's that mean?
Even if its under licence, Hasbro owns the brand and IP. That's been established since 1984. All its means is licencee but the IP is Hasbro. If it were Takara's actual brand why did they get the TF line 1 year after the US if they owned it in the first place? Answer that and I'll wait... The toys may have originated form various Takara brands (remember Tomy had it's own brand and was competition for Takara until there merger in 2006) but the actual IP is Hasbro and they have more sway...thus why we are not going to get anymore Takara redecos going forward.
But you guys are the experts so...
Let's leave that discussion for another thread, shall we?
I want my Blast Off!
I have the Unite Warriors version, and I hope Hasbro fixes some issues I have with it. I too am excited to see what they do with it
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933596)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:22pm CST
TakaraTomy already fixed one issue with the UW Shuttler (aka RiD Movor) redeco: the head is now less likely to pop off randomly. Such mold tweaks or fixes are permanent most of the time.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:22pm CST
bvzxa wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I want my Blast Off!
I have the Unite Warriors version, and I hope Hasbro fixes some issues I have with it. I too am excited to see what they do with it
TakaraTomy already fixed one issue with the UW Shuttler (aka RiD Movor) redeco: the head is now less likely to pop off randomly. Such mold tweaks or fixes are permanent most of the time.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933597)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:28pm CST
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_licensing if they owned the brand they wouldn't need to license from Takara.
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 24th, 2018 @ 10:28pm CST
bvzxa wrote:Even if its under licence, Hasbro owns the brand and IP.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_licensing if they owned the brand they wouldn't need to license from Takara.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933606)
Posted by Emerje on January 25th, 2018 @ 12:25am CST
What Hasbro owns is the Transformers name, character names, and likenesses (and maybe the cartoon eps produced by Marvel and Sunbow), but they don't own the toys, even the toys Hasbro made themselves like Rescue Bots. It's really not much different from when they got GoBots from buying Tonka, they got the character names and brand name, but the toys and toy likenesses stayed with Bandai and the cartoon Likenesses stayed with Hanna Barbera/WB. Owning something doesn't mean you own all of it. Oh, and Hasbro can't take anything away from Takara Tomy since Japan has its own trademark and copyright laws so they also own the same names and whatnot (in Japan), but also own the figures. It's very complicated, but don't confuse Hasbro being allowed to take the lead on things with them being able to tell Takara Tomy what to do. Takara Tomy releasing Power of the Primes like this is because they want to and they'd rather focus their resources elsewhere.
Oh, and the 10 pounds on Blast Off is probably the case weight erroneously being entered.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 25th, 2018 @ 12:25am CST
steals_your_goats wrote:bvzxa wrote:Even if its under licence, Hasbro owns the brand and IP.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_licensing if they owned the brand they wouldn't need to license from Takara.
What Hasbro owns is the Transformers name, character names, and likenesses (and maybe the cartoon eps produced by Marvel and Sunbow), but they don't own the toys, even the toys Hasbro made themselves like Rescue Bots. It's really not much different from when they got GoBots from buying Tonka, they got the character names and brand name, but the toys and toy likenesses stayed with Bandai and the cartoon Likenesses stayed with Hanna Barbera/WB. Owning something doesn't mean you own all of it. Oh, and Hasbro can't take anything away from Takara Tomy since Japan has its own trademark and copyright laws so they also own the same names and whatnot (in Japan), but also own the figures. It's very complicated, but don't confuse Hasbro being allowed to take the lead on things with them being able to tell Takara Tomy what to do. Takara Tomy releasing Power of the Primes like this is because they want to and they'd rather focus their resources elsewhere.
Oh, and the 10 pounds on Blast Off is probably the case weight erroneously being entered.
Emerje
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933622)
Posted by Evil Eye on January 25th, 2018 @ 4:57am CST
Come tonight, come to the ogre site! Come to ogre battle fight!
Posted by Evil Eye on January 25th, 2018 @ 4:57am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Albatross250 wrote:I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.
So if he got into a skirmish would that be an Ogre Battle?
Come tonight, come to the ogre site! Come to ogre battle fight!
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933632)
Posted by Albatross250 on January 25th, 2018 @ 8:07am CST
I swear everyone's going to make an army of Ogres
Also that SONG REFERENCE THOUGH
I think just make him turn into upsized Voyager-class with some minor retools and then boom you got a Turtler
Posted by Albatross250 on January 25th, 2018 @ 8:07am CST
Black Hat wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Albatross250 wrote:I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.
So if he got into a skirmish would that be an Ogre Battle?
Come tonight, come to the ogre site! Come to ogre battle fight!
I swear everyone's going to make an army of Ogres
Also that SONG REFERENCE THOUGH
I think just make him turn into upsized Voyager-class with some minor retools and then boom you got a Turtler
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933648)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 25th, 2018 @ 10:13am CST
I would suggest to retool CW Sky Lynx
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 25th, 2018 @ 10:13am CST
Albatross250 wrote:I think just make him turn into upsized Voyager-class with some minor retools and then boom you got a Turtler
I would suggest to retool CW Sky Lynx
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933653)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 25th, 2018 @ 10:25am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 25th, 2018 @ 10:25am CST
At that point, they might as well make a whole new mold since Sky Lynx lacks a traditional robot mode (and his torso mode doesn't resemble that of King Poseidon).Lunatic Prime wrote:Albatross250 wrote:I think just make him turn into upsized Voyager-class with some minor retools and then boom you got a Turtler
I would suggest to retool CW Sky Lynx
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933658)
Posted by o.supreme on January 25th, 2018 @ 10:40am CST
Posted by o.supreme on January 25th, 2018 @ 10:40am CST
Speaking of which. Is it just me, or does the city-scape in the background of Blot's artwork evoke the look of the Seacons/Piranacon? Foreshadowing , I hope?....
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933700)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 25th, 2018 @ 2:11pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 25th, 2018 @ 2:11pm CST
I sadly think you may be over thinking things, though I wouldn't say no to the seacons (as long as we get all six members...but I don't mind if they sacrifice the targetmaster gimmick)
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933705)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 25th, 2018 @ 2:29pm CST
If they make the Seacons they have to include the Targetmaster gimmick to give us all 6 or make the 6th one into a chest armor or something like what they did in Combiner Wars. And I wouldn't mind if for example Sea Wing turns into Piranacon's sword.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 25th, 2018 @ 2:29pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:o.supreme wrote:Albatross250 wrote:I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.
Speaking of which. Is it just me, or does the city-scape in the background of Blot's artwork evoke the look of the Seacons/Piranacon? Foreshadowing , I hope?....
I sadly think you may be over thinking things, though I wouldn't say no to the seacons (as long as we get all six members...but I don't mind if they sacrifice the targetmaster gimmick)
If they make the Seacons they have to include the Targetmaster gimmick to give us all 6 or make the 6th one into a chest armor or something like what they did in Combiner Wars. And I wouldn't mind if for example Sea Wing turns into Piranacon's sword.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933706)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 25th, 2018 @ 2:29pm CST
It's just you.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 25th, 2018 @ 2:29pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Speaking of which. Is it just me, or does the city-scape in the background of Blot's artwork evoke the look of the Seacons/Piranacon? Foreshadowing , I hope?....
It's just you.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933709)
Posted by mordhelm on January 25th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
Posted by mordhelm on January 25th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
It was speculated that the face on Hun-Gurrr at HasCon -- the one that was hidden by a decepticon symbol -- was actually a remolded head for Snaptrap. If you look at some of the other forums, a retool into Snaptrap could actually work out.
Again we are talking about speculation here, but it seems like we have a lot of the pieces for the Seacons (and we have discussed this before). After seeing the Terrorcons, I definitely see Hasbro **AT SOME POINT** doing some retooling to make Seacons. It might not be for PotP but...
Hun Gurrr can be retooled into Snaptrap
Overbite and Skalor could both be relatively simple retools of Rippersnapper, and still look right in beast mode, though the transformation might be backward from the original toys.
Seawing could be a Swoop/Cutthroat retool. Basically just reverse the mold for the manta ray mode. Swoops bot mode arms becomes the manta legs, and the bot mode legs become the manta head.
Nautilator could just be based of Sinnertwin. Remove the back legs, pop some crustacean-like legs either on the torso, or the arms. If the arms have the beast legs, then the beast head has the claws attached as an accessory. If not, the arms are the claw arms.
Tentakil, is a toughy. I can see it being another Swoop based mold done in the same way as Seawing. Or it could be done in a similar manner as Nautilator. Any thoughts on this one?
Anyway, it's all just speculation at this point. Hasbro has probably bottled things up even further after the PotP big leak over the summer.
Again we are talking about speculation here, but it seems like we have a lot of the pieces for the Seacons (and we have discussed this before). After seeing the Terrorcons, I definitely see Hasbro **AT SOME POINT** doing some retooling to make Seacons. It might not be for PotP but...
Hun Gurrr can be retooled into Snaptrap
Overbite and Skalor could both be relatively simple retools of Rippersnapper, and still look right in beast mode, though the transformation might be backward from the original toys.
Seawing could be a Swoop/Cutthroat retool. Basically just reverse the mold for the manta ray mode. Swoops bot mode arms becomes the manta legs, and the bot mode legs become the manta head.
Nautilator could just be based of Sinnertwin. Remove the back legs, pop some crustacean-like legs either on the torso, or the arms. If the arms have the beast legs, then the beast head has the claws attached as an accessory. If not, the arms are the claw arms.
Tentakil, is a toughy. I can see it being another Swoop based mold done in the same way as Seawing. Or it could be done in a similar manner as Nautilator. Any thoughts on this one?
Anyway, it's all just speculation at this point. Hasbro has probably bottled things up even further after the PotP big leak over the summer.
Re: Scans of Figure King 240 Featuring Power of the Primes Volcanicus, Moonracer, Dreadwing and More! (1933710)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 25th, 2018 @ 3:07pm CST
Why would
display or even make a Hungurrr with a Snaptrap head? 
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 25th, 2018 @ 3:07pm CST
mordhelm wrote:It was speculated that the face on Hun-Gurrr at HasCon -- the one that was hidden by a decepticon symbol -- was actually a remolded head for Snaptrap. If you look at some of the other forums, a retool into Snaptrap could actually work out.
Why would
display or even make a Hungurrr with a Snaptrap head? 
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