Takara Designers Interview From Transformers Generations 2020 Including Details About MP Raiden

Ohno: Even if you have the same character, it's all right, so I would like to put out an evolution by changing the specifications. Minibots are almost untouched, and there are many things that can be done.

ZeroWolf wrote:Greetings Seibertronians! It's not just HasLabs Unicron that's been feeling the love from the Transformers Generations 2020 book (recently published in Japan), as there's also an interview with three Takara Designers (Mitsuhito Ohno, Hisashi Yuki and Daisuke Onohara) and one of the things they discuss is the recently announced MP Raiden project!



Caption next to small picture of Raiden apparently reads:

New information on the Raiden project is now available at the Special Exhibition Tenku no Railroad Story at the Mori Arts Center Gallery & Sky Gallery in Roppongi Hills Mori Tower.

The main details are that the toy will indeed be part of the Masterpiece line, making this the first Combiner to feature in all the years the Masterpiece line has been running. It has been said that the designers want the alt mode to satisfy even "train" people, meaning railway enthusiastics. This will probably be along the lines of realistic alt modes.

The translation below has been machine translated for the most with some tweaks done to aid grammar. Have a read and let us know what you think.

Beyond the 35th Anniversary, Toward 2020
Mitsuhito Ohno, Hisashi Yuki and Daisuke Onohara

-Let's open with thoughts on 2019 as we look back.

Ohno: After all, “Bumblebee” was big. The movie itself was very appealing to the G1 design, fans of the past were happy and I think the general public enjoyed that it looked like this (different from previous movies). I also enjoyed it personally.
Onohara: For marketing purposes, it was very good that the movie had all-ages content that could be enjoyed by children and family.
Yuki: It was a good movie that allowed you to use your characters carefully. Thanks to “Bumblebee”, I think that there will be a chance to create new types of video works in the future.
Ohno: The possibilities have expanded, and expectations for the next movie are increasing as soon as possible. Another thing that impressed me personally was that Unicron was established, and I can't tell you the exact date, but in 2021, it will reach my Japanese lol. I'm most impressed by how [much space will be needed] to place it at home, so be prepared now (laughs)

-Ohno, you can order a large number of items in Japan, thank you so much. How about the new anime “Cyberverse”?

Onohara: It was a new challenge, but I recently exhibited at the Tokyo Motor Show [and observed] there are quite a lot of children who come close to Cyberverse.
Ohno: It’s an advantage that you can watch it many times.
Onohara: This is an anime that asks Miwa Iwano for sound this time, so that various people can enjoy various ways to enjoy it. The number of viewers is also increasing because of the increased activity of major characters in Season 2.
Ohno: Toys are also good products. It ’s very interesting. First of all, it is a toy that is interesting to play with. Since it has a toy-like gimmick, I'd like you to play with it as a toy.
Yuki: In conjunction with Hasbro's “Generations Selects” in the United States, we started out in the form of trying to select characters that would not be featured in their lineup or regular “Generations”. With Legends, I was able to put it up to Dai Atlas, and I thought it would be Star Convoy the next time. I want to [make challenging] Japanese characters in the future. A large item called King Poseidon also appeared. Fortunately, the idea of the development was that I thought it was a little ... that the combiner would define it, and that the [sixth] last scrambled unit would not come out. I want [to satisfy] the fans that have collected so far, so I wanted to meet that honest hope and commercialized it.

-As a high target item, how was the Masterpiece brand in 2019?

Ohno: I am also a member, but now Masterpiece is a development system with project members. Yuuki Oshima, who draws design sketches and gives ideas to TF fans, is one of the important members.
Onohara: We were able to release Convoy Version 3 and Bumble Version 2 for the 35th anniversary. Fortunately, Masterpiece started at the 20th anniversary, so when the series reaches its 40th anniversary in 5 years, then Masterpiece will reach its 20th anniversary. Then there will have been Masterpiece for half of the Transformers' history. Because it has progressed with a good feeling for such a long time, it seems that it has a product specification that can withstand such upgrades.
Ohno: Even if you have the same character, it's all right, so I would like to put out an evolution by changing the specifications. Minibots are almost untouched, and there are many things that can be done.

-You collaborated vigorously.

Onohara: I think the most important purpose of collaboration is to create opportunities that people who once knew the Transformers brand and those who knew it were able to feel “what is interesting”.
Yuki: Thanks to movies and so on for the past few years, it seems that collaboration has become more eager.
Ohno: You may be able to say that you can now truly collaborate.
Onohara: There was also a second G-SHOCK and an amazing collaboration with BUMP OF CHICKEN was also realized rapidly.
Ohno: A woman at a live venue wears a t-shirt with Bumblebee. I saw it and it was tremendous.

- Finally, please tell us about 2020.

Onohara: First of all, it's not the end of the 35th anniversary, but in February we will carry out the “Transformers Examination”. Especially for the intermediate level, it will be a good test of your skill, so I would like you to challenge it. After that, Netflix's new animation will be distributed in Japan. Fortunately, there’s no movie, so it feels like it ’s normal (laughs). We are also preparing new works for “Generations Selects”, so please be patient.

- What was the recently announced “Raiden Project”?

Onohara: Isn't everyone thinking "No way !?" This time, we decided to officially produce Raiden for Masterpiece. I don't know the release date yet.
Ohno: I want to use vehicle mode that will satisfy even the “Train” people.
Yuki: We are very much looking forward to Mr. Ohno joining the project. Masterpieces were handled by young people so far, so there weren't many patterns to make together with your own toys.
Ohno: That's right, you're going to recreate the Raiden that you did with yourself. I have to do my best.
Yuki: You can do many things that you couldn't do at that time (laughs).
Onohara: In this way, veterans make wonderful items, so I would like to deliver them firmly to everyone.

PROFILE
Mitsuhito Ohno joined Takara in 1980. Involved in development from the beginning of "Transformers" through "Microman" and "Diaclone". In 2010, he was selected for the Hall of Fame. Currently participating in the Masterpiece Project as a fellow.

Hisashi Yuki joined Takara in 1992. Participated in the Transformers team since “Beast Wars II”. In addition to developing products for domestic and overseas, he is responsible for the localization of “Cyberverse” [as well as the] planning and development of the Japanese version of “Generations Select”.

Daisuke Onohara joined Takara Tomy in 2006. Transformers Marketing, collaboration and events planning. In Transformers Cyberverse, he is one of the producers.

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mesh wrote:I'm sure it will look great and appeal to fans.

Burn wrote:they want to appeal to the Japanese collectors that's their prerogative I guess.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Burn wrote:they want to appeal to the Japanese collectors that's their prerogative I guess.

Well, they'd do just that when they finally decide to release MP Victory Leo.

ScottyP wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Burn wrote:they want to appeal to the Japanese collectors that's their prerogative I guess.

Well, they'd do just that when they finally decide to release MP Victory Leo.

All of this appeals to me as someone that just likes cool robots

Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. I'm no expert on railway models but if this means that they're not unreasonably large, I might be down for at least one of them.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. I'm no expert on railway models but if this means that they're not unreasonably large, I might be down for at least one of them.

The most used scales are, from smallest to large:

N, 1:160
HO or H0, 1:87
O or 0, 1:48

There's also S, 1:64 which is half of Alternity or 1:32. Alternators/Binaltech is 1:24, which coincidentally matches G scale for gardens (which means they're really big).

Emerje wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. I'm no expert on railway models but if this means that they're not unreasonably large, I might be down for at least one of them.

The most used scales are, from smallest to large:

N, 1:160
HO or H0, 1:87
O or 0, 1:48

There's also S, 1:64 which is half of Alternity or 1:32. Alternators/Binaltech is 1:24, which coincidentally matches G scale for gardens (which means they're really big).

This being Takara Tomy I'll be rather surprised if they don't use their own proprietary Plarail scale and tracks (same as Shinkalion). On the other hand that scale is probably too small for Masterpiece. Best I can tell their bot modes are roughly the same as Autobot cars Prowl or Sideswipe making them Voyager-ish. Shinkalion figures are around 9", but it takes two engines and a car to get that big, they wouldn't be able to do that with Trainbots.



Then again, the Trainbots are pretty long, maybe they could unfold them into something big enough for MP scale and still have enough parts for combining. It's not like they weren't big square chunky bots on the cartoon already.

I'm really thinking around $700 for the set price. You have to figure each bot is going to be over $100 and there's six of them. After store discounts maybe it'll drop to $550, but probably not by much more than that. I'll get it because I really want to support MP combiners, but I hope Raiden is roughly the same size as Titan Devastator.

Emerje

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. I'm no expert on railway models but if this means that they're not unreasonably large, I might be down for at least one of them.

The most used scales are, from smallest to large:

N, 1:160
HO or H0, 1:87
O or 0, 1:48

There's also S, 1:64 which is half of Alternity or 1:32. Alternators/Binaltech is 1:24, which coincidentally matches G scale for gardens (which means they're really big).

This being Takara Tomy I'll be rather surprised if they don't use their own proprietary Plarail scale and tracks (same as Shinkalion). On the other hand that scale is probably too small for Masterpiece. Best I can tell their bot modes are roughly the same as Autobot cars Prowl or Sideswipe making them Voyager-ish. Shinkalion figures are around 9", but it takes two engines and a car to get that big, they wouldn't be able to do that with Trainbots.



Then again, the Trainbots are pretty long, maybe they could unfold them into something big enough for MP scale and still have enough parts for combining. It's not like they weren't big square chunky bots on the cartoon already.

I'm really thinking around $700 for the set price. You have to figure each bot is going to be over $100 and there's six of them. After store discounts maybe it'll drop to $550, but probably not by much more than that. I'll get it because I really want to support MP combiners, but I hope Raiden is roughly the same size as Titan Devastator.

Emerje

Wasn't there a lot of parts forming to the trains and to form Raiden? That might help keep the cost downish.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:God help us if these guys are in scale with the rest of the MP Line....

optimeow wrote:Highly detailed. That's good.

But the highly possible hole in my pocket. That's no good.

Considering the price of UW Devastator a few years ago, MP Raiden can easily be double the price of that.

Flashwave wrote:But I am also unsure of how they got such a wide bot out of such a narrow alt mode.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:God help us if these guys are in scale with the rest of the MP Line....

Sabrblade wrote:The thing about his size is that that one magazine interview described him specifically as being "Unite Warriors size", which at first glance sounds like he'd be the height of a typical CW/UW/POTP/Selects combiner, which in turn would make Raiden CHUG scaled instead of proper MP scale.

The possibility does still remain that "Unite Warriors size" meant "Unite Warriors Devastator size", to make him proper MP scaled, but if that's the case, that begs the question of why the interview didn't just say that instead of the broader, less-specific "Unite Warriors size" since Devastator was the only UW toy of that height.

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The thing about his size is that that one magazine interview described him specifically as being "Unite Warriors size", which at first glance sounds like he'd be the height of a typical CW/UW/POTP/Selects combiner, which in turn would make Raiden CHUG scaled instead of proper MP scale.

The possibility does still remain that "Unite Warriors size" meant "Unite Warriors Devastator size", to make him proper MP scaled, but if that's the case, that begs the question of why the interview didn't just say that instead of the broader, less-specific "Unite Warriors size" since Devastator was the only UW toy of that height.

I just can't imagine them making MP figures not in scale with MPs. What's the point? Make it a Selects or a one off, no need to shoehorn them into the wrong line, they'll sell regardless.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The thing about his size is that that one magazine interview described him specifically as being "Unite Warriors size", which at first glance sounds like he'd be the height of a typical CW/UW/POTP/Selects combiner, which in turn would make Raiden CHUG scaled instead of proper MP scale.

The possibility does still remain that "Unite Warriors size" meant "Unite Warriors Devastator size", to make him proper MP scaled, but if that's the case, that begs the question of why the interview didn't just say that instead of the broader, less-specific "Unite Warriors size" since Devastator was the only UW toy of that height.

I just can't imagine them making MP figures not in scale with MPs. What's the point? Make it a Selects or a one off, no need to shoehorn them into the wrong line, they'll sell regardless.

Emerje

-Kanrabat- wrote:One thing is sure. That's one MP I'll NEVER get unless I win a million dollars. Because if I get that ultra expensive (price justified) MP, I'll want to hunt down the complete G1 original and we all know how much this goes for.

whacko wrote:I know Takara is limited by the cartoon character's design, and also that this is an engineering sample and not a final product... but this doesn't look like a Masterpiece figure. All the gaps, exposed hollow parts and ugly hinges make this look like a mainline quality toy.

whacko wrote:I know Takara is limited by the cartoon character's design, and also that this is an engineering sample and not a final product... but this doesn't look like a Masterpiece figure. All the gaps, exposed hollow parts and ugly hinges make this look like a mainline quality toy.

Emerje wrote:You're going to have to point out the exposed gaps and hollow spots because I don't see any. And the hinges are a necessity due to him being a combiner. Once the clear plastic is painted over a lot of it wont be visible.

Emerje

mcfmullen wrote:This doesn't even remotely look MP style at all. Why is it being called MP when it's clearly siege trilogy style?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question, was Raiden featured in Victory?

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question, was Raiden featured in Victory?

He or one of his individual components appeared regularly on the show if I remember right.

Emerje

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question, was Raiden featured in Victory?

He or one of his individual components appeared regularly on the show if I remember right.

Emerje

Outside of The Headmasters, the Trainbots appeared in the opening credits of Masterforce (not in the cartoon itself except for archive footage in a clip show), and briefly in the manga as well. Nothing in Victory whatsoever. The toys were re-released in Zone.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question, was Raiden featured in Victory?

He or one of his individual components appeared regularly on the show if I remember right.

Emerje

Outside of The Headmasters, the Trainbots appeared in the opening credits of Masterforce (not in the cartoon itself except for archive footage in a clip show), and briefly in the manga as well. Nothing in Victory whatsoever. The toys were re-released in Zone.

OK, there went that theory.

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question, was Raiden featured in Victory?

He or one of his individual components appeared regularly on the show if I remember right.

Emerje

Outside of The Headmasters, the Trainbots appeared in the opening credits of Masterforce (not in the cartoon itself except for archive footage in a clip show), and briefly in the manga as well. Nothing in Victory whatsoever. The toys were re-released in Zone.

OK, there went that theory.

If it was related to HasLab Star Saber, this set has been in production from TakaraTomy since October 2019, when Hasbro had only just finished crowdfunding Unicron a month earlier.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid question, was Raiden featured in Victory?

He or one of his individual components appeared regularly on the show if I remember right.

Emerje

Outside of The Headmasters, the Trainbots appeared in the opening credits of Masterforce (not in the cartoon itself except for archive footage in a clip show), and briefly in the manga as well. Nothing in Victory whatsoever. The toys were re-released in Zone.

OK, there went that theory.

If it was related to HasLab Star Saber, this set has been in production from TakaraTomy since October 2019, when Hasbro had only just finished crowdfunding Unicron a month earlier.

Doesn't mean anything. I just could've seen this as the next Haslab. Guess Star Saber it is, hopefully, it's really Victory Saber.