ZeroWolf wrote:Who's the cat girl? I'm somewhat familiar with the Japanese transformers but I don't recognise her at all.
@Primalxconvoy thanks for the reply, it's interesting then that they are persisting in this direction despite customers not liking it.
ZeroWolf wrote:@Primalxconvoy thanks for the reply, it's interesting then that they are persisting in this direction despite customers not liking it.
steals_your_goats wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:@Primalxconvoy thanks for the reply, it's interesting then that they are persisting in this direction despite customers not liking it.
Vocal minority vs silent majority. Just because a few people on here say they don't like it and one guy asked his friends what they thought is not a direct indication of what the fandom at large wants.
primalxconvoy wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:@Primalxconvoy thanks for the reply, it's interesting then that they are persisting in this direction despite customers not liking it.
Vocal minority vs silent majority. Just because a few people on here say they don't like it and one guy asked his friends what they thought is not a direct indication of what the fandom at large wants.
I already stated that it wasn't indicative of everyone in Japan, but colleagues, friends and others I've spoken to in Japan seemed to agree that it wasn't appropriate. I had similar conversations some time ago with other Japanese about Kiss Players.
Also, there is no evidence to back up your claims of a "silent majority". I've taken the trouble to do (albeit circumstantial) research into this.
Where is the evidence or research to back your claims?
, but that is just me, and it does seem that Takara/Tomy is not really thinking about all the collectors that are buying these figures. And you would think after the backlash of the Kiss Players, they would double-think this decision. 
is getting a lot of attention.....and hopefully (even though doubtfully) she will get a figure made of her in the future......and not one of her taking a bath. 
steals_your_goats wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:@Primalxconvoy thanks for the reply, it's interesting then that they are persisting in this direction despite customers not liking it.
Vocal minority vs silent majority. Just because a few people on here say they don't like it and one guy asked his friends what they thought is not a direct indication of what the fandom at large wants.
I already stated that it wasn't indicative of everyone in Japan, but colleagues, friends and others I've spoken to in Japan seemed to agree that it wasn't appropriate. I had similar conversations some time ago with other Japanese about Kiss Players.
Also, there is no evidence to back up your claims of a "silent majority". I've taken the trouble to do (albeit circumstantial) research into this.
Where is the evidence or research to back your claims?
You don't need to do "research" you just need common sense. There are hundreds of people that visit this site yet only about 10-15 users at most actually comment expressing their dislike. If there were loads of comments from different people saying that they didn't like it then that's a different story.
If you want to take the fandom at large then clearly there's a silent majority because the comics are still being made. That's all the evidence anyone needs. It's not like Takara is saying "**** the fans let's keep doing what they hate" they're obviously getting enough support, or not getting substantial backlash for them to consider changing the content of the comics.
Michael Alex Kawa wrote:Thanks for the link to the new online comic, it is nice to stay up to date with these.
But I do have to say, even though I do enjoy the art of these comics (mangas), and have defended them before, reading all the comments about them, I have to also question why they continue to make them.
If fans (well most fans since I do like them) don't like these comics why are they being forced down their throats?
Unlike the Kiss Players, which you could ignore, this is like a main line, and for a collector includes a more desirable version of a figure over the Hasbro counterpart.
And yes it does state that these figures are for ages 15+, but that doesn't mean that the figures need to have material included with them, that has very "questionable" art. If I am right Masterpiece figures are intended for Adult Collectors and they don't come with anything like this.
Sure for someone like me, if I got an instruction sheet with a comic with a nice looking partly naked girl taken a shower I would be ECSTATIC
I have even noticed that some collectors are considering "throwing away" the instructions, and yes as a collector that is like a big deal.
Plus unlike the Kiss Players, there is no indication on the package that when you open it, you will be seeing cheesecake pics of female robots and naked "young" looking girls. Imagine a fan that doesn't pay attention to the forums or news boards, that buys the figure without any knowledge of all this. Now imagine for a moment that this fan whats to share this figure with his kids, again not knowing what awaits him.....I think (and hope) you see where I am going with this.
Anyways if I can find anything good about these comics it is that my favorite Autobot T-AI
primalxconvoy wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:@Primalxconvoy thanks for the reply, it's interesting then that they are persisting in this direction despite customers not liking it.
Vocal minority vs silent majority. Just because a few people on here say they don't like it and one guy asked his friends what they thought is not a direct indication of what the fandom at large wants.
I already stated that it wasn't indicative of everyone in Japan, but colleagues, friends and others I've spoken to in Japan seemed to agree that it wasn't appropriate. I had similar conversations some time ago with other Japanese about Kiss Players.
Also, there is no evidence to back up your claims of a "silent majority". I've taken the trouble to do (albeit circumstantial) research into this.
Where is the evidence or research to back your claims?
You don't need to do "research" you just need common sense. There are hundreds of people that visit this site yet only about 10-15 users at most actually comment expressing their dislike. If there were loads of comments from different people saying that they didn't like it then that's a different story.
If you want to take the fandom at large then clearly there's a silent majority because the comics are still being made. That's all the evidence anyone needs. It's not like Takara is saying "**** the fans let's keep doing what they hate" they're obviously getting enough support, or not getting substantial backlash for them to consider changing the content of the comics.
That's not correct. There can be many reasons for silence, including not being interested in the subject matter, not wanting to be outspoken/desire to be polite, or other reasons, too.
You have projected your own reasons upon what you believe is silence, with no facts to back up your claim.
In Japan, even though change DOES occur, the public isn't always as vocal as, can say Western public opinion. Also, my theory is that sales for Takara TF, especially Legends, has been low, so they have been sold in fewer outlets, to a smaller demographic. As such, there might be less interest either way and/or an outcry.
Regardless, the amount of people actually complaining can be seen to be irrelevant. It only took a few people at the start of any movement to create change.
So far, I can find little or no substance to your claims.
Black Hat wrote:What I don't understand is why he seems determined to keep coming back to a thread he KNOWS will upset him, after said thread was split out specifically due to his whining. In fact he barely seems to post in the Legends toy thread!
ANYWAY.
The Octane comic? Meh. Seen worse, and the idea of Octane being a bit of a perv (in addition to his many other vices as suggested by his G1 toy bio) is interesting. In any event, the lewdness is happening to ancient alien robots so the "m-muh underage fictional characters" argument falls flat.
As for the Christmas special? Good to see the Autobot Targetmaster trio completed, and the rampaging army of mischievous Sweeps was very funny.
Rodimus Knight wrote:I find the artwork amusing and like so many previous ones, hope someone will translate them. If someone had a Patreon and is taking donations to do translations, please let me know.
I enjoy these comics more then the IDW stuff to be honest.
primalxconvoy wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:I find the artwork amusing and like so many previous ones, hope someone will translate them. If someone had a Patreon and is taking donations to do translations, please let me know.
I enjoy these comics more then the IDW stuff to be honest.
Why do you enjoy them more? What could IDW learn from these comics?
That's White Lune, sister of White Leo. She's a new character created just for this series, first introduced back in Doublecross's comic and the prologue comic that led into it. She uses the Masterforce to don the Haywire Targetmaster armor, with this comic showing how she joins up with Blurr as his Targetmaster partner after having been first partnered with Doublecross.ZeroWolf wrote:Who's the cat girl? I'm somewhat familiar with the Japanese transformers but I don't recognise her at all.
Sabrblade wrote:Okay, at least this new online comic isn't pornographic like the Octane comic was.
Looks to be advertising all the recent reissues, plus showing how White Lune switches over to being the Targetmaster partner of Blurr.That's White Lune, sister of White Leo. She's a new character created just for this series, first introduced back in Doublecross's comic and the prologue comic that led into it. She uses the Masterforce to don the Haywire Targetmaster armor, with this comic showing how she joins up with Blurr as his Targetmaster partner after having been first partnered with Doublecross.ZeroWolf wrote:Who's the cat girl? I'm somewhat familiar with the Japanese transformers but I don't recognise her at all.
I hope it ends with everyone non-native to the Legends World all getting sent back to their native worlds and time periods. Metroplex especially since he's gotta go back to the G1 World in order to be present for his appearance in the Unite Warriors Offshots for the Aerialbots and Stunticons, which are chronologically set after Metroplex's return home according to the author.ZeroWolf wrote:Though what will happen with all this in the end anyway? Once, takara begin releasing power of the primes stuff that is as it's my understanding that legends will end.
ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Okay, at least this new online comic isn't pornographic like the Octane comic was.
Looks to be advertising all the recent reissues, plus showing how White Lune switches over to being the Targetmaster partner of Blurr.That's White Lune, sister of White Leo. She's a new character created just for this series, first introduced back in Doublecross's comic and the prologue comic that led into it. She uses the Masterforce to don the Haywire Targetmaster armor, with this comic showing how she joins up with Blurr as his Targetmaster partner after having been first partnered with Doublecross.ZeroWolf wrote:Who's the cat girl? I'm somewhat familiar with the Japanese transformers but I don't recognise her at all.
Thanks sabrblade
I only find elements of the manga problematic as they seem completely out of place compared to the zany world that legends has created for itself. Take that stuff out and you're left with a very different but light hearted take on tfs.
Though what will happen with all this in the end anyway? Once, takara begin releasing power of the primes stuff that is as it's my understanding that legends will end.
