The Combiner Wars Autobot Fan-Built Combiner Hails From The Sea Of Rust

Autobot032 wrote:The Transformers: Battle Tactics mobile game has provided some updated information about the upcoming Fan-Built Autobot combiner, more specifically, that it's origins come from the Sea Of Rust.

We were notified of this update, thanks to fellow Seibertronian and fan, D-Maximus_Prime.

We've mirrored the screenshot below:



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Optimum Supreme wrote:

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others,
By the time I finish my song?



Warning, opinions ahead!
I really hope the Hasbro Slingshot rumors aren't a hoax, or I'll be so mad. Alla yalls can have your own opinions or whatever, that's fine, you're entitled to them, but to me no one could fill my favorite Aerialbot's shoes, let alone some predeco of Blades and or Vortex.

AB on his own, whatever, he's a'ight, I suppose, but as an Aerialbot, nope, nuh uh, nananana, I can't hear you, the part of ten year old me that still lives on deep down inside just ain't havin it, no matter what sort of madness is apparently at play in today's comics.
end opinions!

Cobotron wrote:Aren't they using Car Robots Gigatron/RID Galvatron as the current Galvatron? I think that's pretty cool. Or is he Gigatron in the books? Either way I'm glad that evil Mofo is getting some face time.

I'd love to see a new Overlord toy.

Desslok2201 wrote:If it's a decent combiner I don't care if it lives in a van down by the river.

Mkall wrote:I'm very skeptical that there is actually any real competition in this 'poll.' There was an interview posted somewhere a few days ago which Hasbro basically tells IDW which character to use/focus on, to go with the toys they're designing at least a year in advance of the story & toys being revealed. Does IDW get a say? Most likely, but Hasbro's driving this franchise.

My cynical belief is that Hasbro already has this "Fan Made" combiner done, dusted, and designed and is making us fans feel all warm and fuzzy over choosing it.

Either way, I like the Sea of Rust source. I'm hoping for a Junkion-style vibe from them.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Mkall wrote:I'm very skeptical that there is actually any real competition in this 'poll.' There was an interview posted somewhere a few days ago which Hasbro basically tells IDW which character to use/focus on, to go with the toys they're designing at least a year in advance of the story & toys being revealed. Does IDW get a say? Most likely, but Hasbro's driving this franchise.

My cynical belief is that Hasbro already has this "Fan Made" combiner done, dusted, and designed and is making us fans feel all warm and fuzzy over choosing it.

Either way, I like the Sea of Rust source. I'm hoping for a Junkion-style vibe from them.

If I'm remembering right, hasbro has actually been outed in the past for doing this. One of the Star Wars figures that fans were supposed to "choose", and it was found the "winner" had been in production before the contest even started.

Ironhidensh wrote: I do see why hasbro would want to break up the mahogany of jets. I get it, I just don't like it.

Cobotron wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote: I do see why hasbro would want to break up the mahogany of jets. I get it, I just don't like it.

The Arielbots are made of WOOD!?!?

Spell check, whatcha gonna do?

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote: I do see why hasbro would want to break up the mahogany of jets. I get it, I just don't like it.

The Arielbots are made of WOOD!?!?

Spell check, whatcha gonna do?

perhaps it was a.... SPRUCE goose?

peaces wrote:i love figures that can mount cannons on their back

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:As far as I can tell, there is nothing not cool about that toy. Even his sword is cool.

totally brah. did you get tingles when you saw this pic?

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:As far as I can tell, there is nothing not cool about that toy. Even his sword is cool.

totally brah. did you get tingles when you saw this pic?

You know whats funny? I totaly got the tingles. At first I was like... urgh, hollow legs...urgh, weird inside out backpack...

Editor wrote:My two cents. Sorry if it's longer than I originally thought it would be.
(I haven't quoted anyone as too many other posts have already been posted while I was working on this while at work.)

I have zero problem with Alpha Bravo, the guy is a good figure has a nice transformation and looks good posed with other versions of Aerialbots in my collection.

For the record, born in '74 and first memory of Transformer let alone G1 was seeing the original first wave of toys at K-Mart and was hooked immediately. This was about 2 weeks before the show even came out. I had the original Superion, and clearly remember the day I bought Skydive at Woodwards to complete the set, when I couldn't find him anywhere else.

I have a decent current Superion for my needs I have already spent enough on, so I currently are not worried about getting the CW version, that said I bought Alpha Bravo two days ago, and opened him up yesterday.

Will I change my mind about getting CW Superion should Hasbro release Slingshot? Maybe.
Will I change my mind if the Takara one is available at a decent price? Maybe.
If I do will Alpha Bravo be thrown under the bus? Not a chance.

It has nothing to do him being a helicopter instead of a harrier like Slingshot.
It has nothing to do with if they use the same base for Blades (which I'll also buy) or Vortex (not worried, I like my FP/superlink Bruticus for him.) If the same mold is used for the fan-designed team, I'll likely buy that one, as well.
It has nothing to do with being Geewon or not.
It has everything to do with the fact that change happens, either you roll with it, take it as it comes and enjoy things, or **** and let it weigh you down.

If you like the character, buy it. If you hate the character, bitching he exists won't change the past. As far as Off-Road goes, As I do plan to get that set, i'm getting him, and if Wildrider is released later, Off-Road will be posed beside them. Rook (hell yhea I'm buying this guy) will not see a fraction of this hate, simply because many of us see Groove being moved away from being a limb is a good thing, regardless for how it effects the G1ness of Defensor.

To a lesser degree but introduced to the conversation already:
I have an almost complete run of the Marvel comics, missing a few of the earliest ones, as I didn't even know it existed until issue 7. I liked the basis of the Dreamwave run, not everything mind you, but I found them enjoyable. However I have tried the IDW comics on and off a few times, but I just can't get into them, a few one i read and loved (spotlight Kup) and I like many of the bits with the Lost Light, but other aspects I just can't stand, like Prime jumping back and forth to being Orion, and (prepares for the hate) while I know a number of people are super excited about the CW Ultra Magnus that is coming out, I hate the direction they went with the whole "Magnus died eons ago, others have taken his place" It worked for the Dread Pirate Roberts, It's expected every now and then with Batman (and other DC characters), It was plot twist I saw coming a mile away and killed an otherwise enjoyable read in John Byrne's Next Men Prequel 2112. But it seems (to me atleast) to be the best example of IDW recrafting classic characters without a shred of connection to the original concepts created for them, but I digress.

What works or exists in your personal collections or head-canon is a matter of works for you. Personally I can see Alpha Bravo, Rook and Off-Road as basically G1 because they have been introduced standing beside existing G1 characters. I don't see IDW stories as being G1 because they push to far beyond the boundaries of story definition from either the a) the original show, b) the Marvel run of comics or c) the bios written for the original Tech Specs. But that is just what works for me, and I'll respect anyone elses views on what works for them as long as they respect mine.

Autobot032 wrote:The Transformers: Battle Tactics mobile game has provided some updated information about the upcoming Fan-Built Autobot combiner, more specifically, that it's origins come from the Sea Of Rust.

We were notified of this update, thanks to fellow Seibertronian and fan, D-Maximus_Prime.

We've mirrored the screenshot below:



Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

Ironhidensh wrote:I actually think Alpha s a well made figure, just not an Airialbot. I do see why hasbro would want to break up the mahogany of jets. I get it, I just don't like it. Personal preference. So I will hold out hope for a hasbro release of slingshot, and when that is confirmed or killed, I'll make my CW decision.

Editor wrote:Wasn't it announced at the Toy show that the Sea of Rust had won that poll?

1PrimeProductions wrote:Is anyone having just a little hope since that the combiner is from the Sea of Rust, and the Sea of Rust is from Fall of Cybertron, MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYBBBBE, just mayyyyybe this means something for Transformers games?

Also, see this thread regarding why it is possible something may be happening.

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/high-moon-is-busy-it-seems-with-something--p1653494.php#p1653494

JustPlainME wrote:I'll throw my hat in...

I'm not knocking AB or Offroad, but I do have a question about them. Have they appeared anywhere in fiction or toys, besides the recent IDW depictions as being "backup" limbs? That would be my only gripe about them. If they're some obscure, late G1 characters, then that might explain a little. I kind of got away from Transformers right after the 3 episodes that they passed off as Season 4 of G1.

fenrir72 wrote:

Editor wrote:My two cents. Sorry if it's longer than I originally thought it would be.
(I haven't quoted anyone as too many other posts have already been posted while I was working on this while at work.)

I have zero problem with Alpha Bravo, the guy is a good figure has a nice transformation and looks good posed with other versions of Aerialbots in my collection.

For the record, born in '74 and first memory of Transformer let alone G1 was seeing the original first wave of toys at K-Mart and was hooked immediately. This was about 2 weeks before the show even came out. I had the original Superion, and clearly remember the day I bought Skydive at Woodwards to complete the set, when I couldn't find him anywhere else.

I have a decent current Superion for my needs I have already spent enough on, so I currently are not worried about getting the CW version, that said I bought Alpha Bravo two days ago, and opened him up yesterday.

Will I change my mind about getting CW Superion should Hasbro release Slingshot? Maybe.
Will I change my mind if the Takara one is available at a decent price? Maybe.
If I do will Alpha Bravo be thrown under the bus? Not a chance.

It has nothing to do him being a helicopter instead of a harrier like Slingshot.
It has nothing to do with if they use the same base for Blades (which I'll also buy) or Vortex (not worried, I like my FP/superlink Bruticus for him.) If the same mold is used for the fan-designed team, I'll likely buy that one, as well.
It has nothing to do with being Geewon or not.
It has everything to do with the fact that change happens, either you roll with it, take it as it comes and enjoy things, or **** and let it weigh you down.

If you like the character, buy it. If you hate the character, bitching he exists won't change the past. As far as Off-Road goes, As I do plan to get that set, i'm getting him, and if Wildrider is released later, Off-Road will be posed beside them. Rook (hell yhea I'm buying this guy) will not see a fraction of this hate, simply because many of us see Groove being moved away from being a limb is a good thing, regardless for how it effects the G1ness of Defensor.

To a lesser degree but introduced to the conversation already:
I have an almost complete run of the Marvel comics, missing a few of the earliest ones, as I didn't even know it existed until issue 7. I liked the basis of the Dreamwave run, not everything mind you, but I found them enjoyable. However I have tried the IDW comics on and off a few times, but I just can't get into them, a few one i read and loved (spotlight Kup) and I like many of the bits with the Lost Light, but other aspects I just can't stand, like Prime jumping back and forth to being Orion, and (prepares for the hate) while I know a number of people are super excited about the CW Ultra Magnus that is coming out, I hate the direction they went with the whole "Magnus died eons ago, others have taken his place" It worked for the Dread Pirate Roberts, It's expected every now and then with Batman (and other DC characters), It was plot twist I saw coming a mile away and killed an otherwise enjoyable read in John Byrne's Next Men Prequel 2112. But it seems (to me atleast) to be the best example of IDW recrafting classic characters without a shred of connection to the original concepts created for them, but I digress.

What works or exists in your personal collections or head-canon is a matter of works for you. Personally I can see Alpha Bravo, Rook and Off-Road as basically G1 because they have been introduced standing beside existing G1 characters. I don't see IDW stories as being G1 because they push to far beyond the boundaries of story definition from either the a) the original show, b) the Marvel run of comics or c) the bios written for the original Tech Specs. But that is just what works for me, and I'll respect anyone elses views on what works for them as long as they respect mine.

You've just said what been boiling inside me with the IDW take on TF lore. Yup! I don't have to like it but I respect those who do so, hopefully respecting my opinions too.

One thing I got to hand to IDW, they didn't drop the ball on TF for better or worse and kept the comic line running for like almost a decade (?) now. I'm looking at you Pat Lee!

LE0KING wrote:I'm quite a bit younger than you guys(22), and I completely missed out on G1 with the transformers movie being my first and only g1 experience. I kinda feel like lucky that I missed it though, because now I can get the modern stuff without any nostalgia factor blocking me from enjoying anything. I understand that you guys like what you grew up with, but IDW is what I grew up with. These combiner wars sets will be my first combiners, besides FOC bruticus, and I for one really don't care if there is a helicopter in an aerial team or a pickup in a stunt team. I'm just glad these are being made and that I can afford to pick a few of them up.

megatronus wrote:

LE0KING wrote:I'm quite a bit younger than you guys(22), and I completely missed out on G1 with the transformers movie being my first and only g1 experience. I kinda feel like lucky that I missed it though, because now I can get the modern stuff without any nostalgia factor blocking me from enjoying anything. I understand that you guys like what you grew up with, but IDW is what I grew up with. These combiner wars sets will be my first combiners, besides FOC bruticus, and I for one really don't care if there is a helicopter in an aerial team or a pickup in a stunt team. I'm just glad these are being made and that I can afford to pick a few of them up.

Well said!

LE0KING wrote:
I'm quite a bit younger than you guys(22), and I completely missed out on G1 with the transformers movie being my first and only g1 experience. I kinda feel like lucky that I missed it though, because now I can get the modern stuff without any nostalgia factor blocking me from enjoying anything. I understand that you guys like what you grew up with, but IDW is what I grew up with. These combiner wars sets will be my first combiners, besides FOC bruticus, and I for one really don't care if there is a helicopter in an aerial team or a pickup in a stunt team. I'm just glad these are being made and that I can afford to pick a few of them up.

shajaki wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:As far as I can tell, there is nothing not cool about that toy. Even his sword is cool.

totally brah. did you get tingles when you saw this pic?

You know whats funny? I totaly got the tingles. At first I was like... urgh, hollow legs...urgh, weird inside out backpack...

i know! i was the same when i saw that hollow backpack. and before i scrolled down i thought "hey! maybe the hand/foot can store in that..." *gasp*

LE0KING wrote:I'm quite a bit younger than you guys(22), and I completely missed out on G1 with the transformers movie being my first and only g1 experience. I kinda feel like lucky that I missed it though, because now I can get the modern stuff without any nostalgia factor blocking me from enjoying anything. I understand that you guys like what you grew up with, but IDW is what I grew up with. These combiner wars sets will be my first combiners, besides FOC bruticus, and I for one really don't care if there is a helicopter in an aerial team or a pickup in a stunt team. I'm just glad these are being made and that I can afford to pick a few of them up.

Va'al wrote:

LE0KING wrote:I'm quite a bit younger than you guys(22), and I completely missed out on G1 with the transformers movie being my first and only g1 experience. I kinda feel like lucky that I missed it though, because now I can get the modern stuff without any nostalgia factor blocking me from enjoying anything. I understand that you guys like what you grew up with, but IDW is what I grew up with. These combiner wars sets will be my first combiners, besides FOC bruticus, and I for one really don't care if there is a helicopter in an aerial team or a pickup in a stunt team. I'm just glad these are being made and that I can afford to pick a few of them up.

Oh how I love these posts.

There must be something we can do to have different pieces looking at the evolution of the fandom with representatives like this..

ZeroWolf wrote:Funny thing is, it was Alpha Bravo that started this discussion

Rated X wrote:Funny the fans picked sea of rust. Its like they unanimously agree its going to be a piece of junk.

RhA wrote:

Rated X wrote:Funny the fans picked sea of rust. Its like they unanimously agree its going to be a piece of junk.

Then don't buy it and vote with your wallet.

Editor wrote:

LE0KING wrote:
I'm quite a bit younger than you guys(22), and I completely missed out on G1 with the transformers movie being my first and only g1 experience. I kinda feel like lucky that I missed it though, because now I can get the modern stuff without any nostalgia factor blocking me from enjoying anything. I understand that you guys like what you grew up with, but IDW is what I grew up with. These combiner wars sets will be my first combiners, besides FOC bruticus, and I for one really don't care if there is a helicopter in an aerial team or a pickup in a stunt team. I'm just glad these are being made and that I can afford to pick a few of them up.

Awesome. Love and embrace what parts of the fandom speaks to you Leoking. Just because we are all fans of Transformers, we are all coming at these materials from different places and times, and that only makes us all stronger by being able to share these different points of view.

Sabrblade wrote:Back the 80's, people were fine with us getting new character in the G1 line every year.

Nowadays, when we get new characters in G1-based lines, it's some kind of heresy.

RhA wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Back the 80's, people were fine with us getting new characters in the G1 line every year.

Nowadays, when we get new characters in G1-based lines, it's some kind of heresy.

Pretenders went down smooth indeed.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think it's the mentality of some of those who collect classics. Not saying all of them as there will be some who open their hearts and wallets to alpha Bravo and his kin.

Sabrblade wrote:

RhA wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Back the 80's, people were fine with us getting new characters in the G1 line every year.

Nowadays, when we get new characters in G1-based lines, it's some kind of heresy.

Pretenders went down smooth indeed.

Silly gimmick aside, I haven't heard anyone hating on the Pretenders based on "who" they were as characters over "what" they were as toys.

RhA wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RhA wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Back the 80's, people were fine with us getting new characters in the G1 line every year.

Nowadays, when we get new characters in G1-based lines, it's some kind of heresy.

Pretenders went down smooth indeed.

Silly gimmick aside, I haven't heard anyone hating on the Pretenders based on "who" they were as characters over "what" they were as toys.

True enough.

The only example of a character getting flak over who he is is Wheelie as far as I know. The rhyming was hated, the fact that he turned in to a thumb with wheels was ignored.