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Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet
This is a simple list, it is my opinion (and yours) of the figures that NEED to come out in the Generations line or any subsequent line based on providing modern toys of classic characters. While this list is inspired by he community's opinion, my personal basis for this top 5 was characters that either never got an update to their toy since it's original release, or never had a chance to begin with in their original toy, or never even had a toy at retail. Without further ado, lets start with...
5. Transformers Beast Machines Silverbolt
While the Best Wars Silverbolt toy is one of the best Beast Wars toys out there, and one of the few that may not require an update, the exact opposite can be said about his Beast Machines toy. While the robot mode is "ok" (and has some nice details from the animation model), the alt mode really looks like a fan mode that wasn't meant to be. It's just the robot doing a hand stand attempting a spread condor eagle. Hasbro has ventured into the Beast Machines realm for updates already so I really hope this guy gets one since I really feel he is the most in need.
4. Elita One
While it took almost 30 years for an actual toy of G1 arcee, we are still missing an actual toy of Elita 1, Cybertron's first lady. What is sad about this character is that at least arcee had a bunch of original molds in the past, even though none of them were of her G1 self. Elita 1 however, only got the leftovers, with a series of redecos and really ugly looking toys. There is very little legacy for this character in toy form and I really hope that changes soon with the release of a decent toy for this important fembot.
3. Transformers Sky Lynx
There is very little wrong with Sky Lynx' G1 toy. It is interesting, fun, original and quite show accurate. That doesn't change the fact that he never ever got any kind of update aside from the random shout out here and there. I, and many, believe that he is the most important G1 character left who hasn't gotten an updated toy. It's a good thing he at least got an Encore release which let fans finally get this cool G1 toy, which is something I can't say about ...
2. The rest of the Dinobots
The classics line gave us Grimlock and... no one else. The next Dinobot released in the year spanning classics line was ... Grimlock...again. Dont get me wrong, Generations Grimlock is actually a great update to the character and one of the best FOC toys, with a great scale for a classics collection and a fun gimmick. But that doesn't make up that we are still missing updates to the other G1 dinos. Let me explain in a few easy pics.
G1 Dinobots
Set of G1 Dinobot toys
Updated G1 Dinobots
Set of updated G1 Dinobot toys
1. Transformers Beast Wars Blackarachnia (Black Widow) and Transformers Beast Wars Terrorsaur (Terrorsaurer)
These two picks are near unanimous and for good reason since I personally cannot think of any other toys/characters which simply need to be updated for today. Blackarachnia is simply a non issue, she is just a redeco of Tarantulus which looks nothing like her animation model. The mold simply does not suit her sleek physique which is one of the main aspects of the character's design (and behaviour). She is the ultimate fembot and there just has to be a toy representing her original appearance.
At the same time, we have Terrorsaur. While I like his original toy (it is my very first Beast Wars toy), the scale just doesn't work. He was practically Megatron's second in command in season one of the Beast Wars show but the toy would make you think he's tiny, like Rattrap. And while I don't mind the simple transformation, it does result in having his hard stationary wings just sit there in robot mode, overshadowing any sleek physique his toy may have been trying to replicate. The Rattrap's original toy was simple too but actually in scale and quite accurate at the time, and even he got an update. In the end, I couldn't decide between these two Beast Wars characters which one was more in need of an update by both me and the community, so why not both.
Honourable mentions: Take your pick from this awesome thread. But for a quick answer here and now: Titan class Omega Supreme and Leader Class Sixshot. Odd how both Skylynx and Omega Supreme didn’t get new generations molds yet, and they both happen to be the two original Tomy designed toys in the Transformers franchise. Generations Overlord gets mentioned a lot too and for good reason, but I would rather they rerelease the G1 toy first and then go and update him.
Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet
This is a simple list, it is my opinion (and yours) of the figures that NEED to come out in the Generations line or any subsequent line based on providing modern toys of classic characters. While this list is inspired by he community's opinion, my personal basis for this top 5 was characters that either never got an update to their toy since it's original release, or never had a chance to begin with in their original toy, or never even had a toy at retail. Without further ado, lets start with...
5. Transformers Beast Machines Silverbolt
While the Best Wars Silverbolt toy is one of the best Beast Wars toys out there, and one of the few that may not require an update, the exact opposite can be said about his Beast Machines toy. While the robot mode is "ok" (and has some nice details from the animation model), the alt mode really looks like a fan mode that wasn't meant to be. It's just the robot doing a hand stand attempting a spread condor eagle. Hasbro has ventured into the Beast Machines realm for updates already so I really hope this guy gets one since I really feel he is the most in need.
4. Elita One
While it took almost 30 years for an actual toy of G1 arcee, we are still missing an actual toy of Elita 1, Cybertron's first lady. What is sad about this character is that at least arcee had a bunch of original molds in the past, even though none of them were of her G1 self. Elita 1 however, only got the leftovers, with a series of redecos and really ugly looking toys. There is very little legacy for this character in toy form and I really hope that changes soon with the release of a decent toy for this important fembot.
3. Transformers Sky Lynx
There is very little wrong with Sky Lynx' G1 toy. It is interesting, fun, original and quite show accurate. That doesn't change the fact that he never ever got any kind of update aside from the random shout out here and there. I, and many, believe that he is the most important G1 character left who hasn't gotten an updated toy. It's a good thing he at least got an Encore release which let fans finally get this cool G1 toy, which is something I can't say about ...
2. The rest of the Dinobots
The classics line gave us Grimlock and... no one else. The next Dinobot released in the year spanning classics line was ... Grimlock...again. Dont get me wrong, Generations Grimlock is actually a great update to the character and one of the best FOC toys, with a great scale for a classics collection and a fun gimmick. But that doesn't make up that we are still missing updates to the other G1 dinos. Let me explain in a few easy pics.
G1 Dinobots
Set of G1 Dinobot toys
Updated G1 Dinobots
Set of updated G1 Dinobot toys
1. Transformers Beast Wars Blackarachnia (Black Widow) and Transformers Beast Wars Terrorsaur (Terrorsaurer)
These two picks are near unanimous and for good reason since I personally cannot think of any other toys/characters which simply need to be updated for today. Blackarachnia is simply a non issue, she is just a redeco of Tarantulus which looks nothing like her animation model. The mold simply does not suit her sleek physique which is one of the main aspects of the character's design (and behaviour). She is the ultimate fembot and there just has to be a toy representing her original appearance.
At the same time, we have Terrorsaur. While I like his original toy (it is my very first Beast Wars toy), the scale just doesn't work. He was practically Megatron's second in command in season one of the Beast Wars show but the toy would make you think he's tiny, like Rattrap. And while I don't mind the simple transformation, it does result in having his hard stationary wings just sit there in robot mode, overshadowing any sleek physique his toy may have been trying to replicate. The Rattrap's original toy was simple too but actually in scale and quite accurate at the time, and even he got an update. In the end, I couldn't decide between these two Beast Wars characters which one was more in need of an update by both me and the community, so why not both.
Honourable mentions: Take your pick from this awesome thread. But for a quick answer here and now: Titan class Omega Supreme and Leader Class Sixshot. Odd how both Skylynx and Omega Supreme didn’t get new generations molds yet, and they both happen to be the two original Tomy designed toys in the Transformers franchise. Generations Overlord gets mentioned a lot too and for good reason, but I would rather they rerelease the G1 toy first and then go and update him.
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Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686249)
Posted by Burn on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:27am CDT
Posted by Burn on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:27am CDT
G1 Stalker and the rest of the Predators.
Not sure why that wasn't at number one ...
Not sure why that wasn't at number one ...
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686253)
Posted by thanos13omega on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:38am CDT
Posted by thanos13omega on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:38am CDT
One word: FOC trypticon. That stands as a titan.. of course next to metroplex.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686254)
Posted by thanos13omega on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:39am CDT
Posted by thanos13omega on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:39am CDT
And it would be sweet if it transformed into Nemisis!
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686255)
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:44am CDT
He was already addressed, with a bunch of others, in the "Top 5 released figures that need an upscale (and preferably a new mold too)" list since he already had a classics update (although a piss poor one).
This is more for characters that have no update released at retail yet.
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:44am CDT
thanos13omega wrote:One word: FOC trypticon. That stands as a titan.. of course next to metroplex.
He was already addressed, with a bunch of others, in the "Top 5 released figures that need an upscale (and preferably a new mold too)" list since he already had a classics update (although a piss poor one).
This is more for characters that have no update released at retail yet.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686258)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:08am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:08am CDT
I would love to see a lot of Victory characters get the generations treatment like Deathsarus, Road Caesar, liokaiser and the rest.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686259)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:21am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:21am CDT
I really agree with a proper Classic Elita One and a 1st season BW Blackarachnia.
So, here's a few others I'd like:
Titan Class Trypticon.
Metroplex need an opponent.
Ultimate Class Masterforce God Ginrai.
With Ginrai, the Cab-transtechtor (voyager size), the trailer, and Godbomber. All tranhsformable, and all modes present. Maybe in a IDW style with lots of articulations. The ultimate super mode would be as big as the original. This would be so awesome!
Scout class Gnaw and the Sharkticons.
Make them 2 or 3 per cases, so we can go nut and troop build!
Combiner Wars Seacons and Predaking.
CW need more new molds and beasties.
Deluxe class Masterforce Minerva (Minelba).
Her G1 toy is not show accurate at all, ultra rare, and expensive as hell. Hasbro is not ashamed to make fembots anymore and they have proof that they sell. Even the PINK ones! So, having a modernized Minerva, with a tiny headmaster gimmick, would be possible. Come on, HasTak!
So, here's a few others I'd like:
Titan Class Trypticon.
Metroplex need an opponent.
Ultimate Class Masterforce God Ginrai.
With Ginrai, the Cab-transtechtor (voyager size), the trailer, and Godbomber. All tranhsformable, and all modes present. Maybe in a IDW style with lots of articulations. The ultimate super mode would be as big as the original. This would be so awesome!
Scout class Gnaw and the Sharkticons.
Make them 2 or 3 per cases, so we can go nut and troop build!
Combiner Wars Seacons and Predaking.
CW need more new molds and beasties.
Deluxe class Masterforce Minerva (Minelba).
Her G1 toy is not show accurate at all, ultra rare, and expensive as hell. Hasbro is not ashamed to make fembots anymore and they have proof that they sell. Even the PINK ones! So, having a modernized Minerva, with a tiny headmaster gimmick, would be possible. Come on, HasTak!
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686261)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:29am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:29am CDT
5. G1 Firecons
4. G1 Micromasters (Blackjack needs his buddies, at the very least. But they all need updates)
3. G1 Nightbird
2. Leader Class G2 Jhiaxus (using the 2007 Bayverse leader Megatron mold)
1. Titan Class G1 Scorponok (to go with G1 Fort Max in proper scale)
4. G1 Micromasters (Blackjack needs his buddies, at the very least. But they all need updates)
3. G1 Nightbird
2. Leader Class G2 Jhiaxus (using the 2007 Bayverse leader Megatron mold)
1. Titan Class G1 Scorponok (to go with G1 Fort Max in proper scale)
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686262)
Posted by Mechastrike on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:30am CDT
Posted by Mechastrike on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:30am CDT
a Voyager G1 Rodimus WITH a trailer. i was excited when they announced that Cloud Rodimus figure and that he appeared in the comics. but what i saw instead was a Generations Springer repaint. good thing i didn't buy it. 
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686263)
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:31am CDT
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:31am CDT
I got a list of 5 myself.
5. Ape face and snapdragon
4. Monsterbots
3. Broadside (because we already have 5 of the 6 triple changers)
2. An actual stand alone impactor
1. Monstructor. They were an integral part of early Idw stories so this one makes absolute sense
5. Ape face and snapdragon
4. Monsterbots
3. Broadside (because we already have 5 of the 6 triple changers)
2. An actual stand alone impactor
1. Monstructor. They were an integral part of early Idw stories so this one makes absolute sense
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686265)
Posted by Noideaforaname on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:44am CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:44am CDT
I'd like to see the top 3 (er, 7? 8?), not so keen on the other 2. I'd want G2 repaints out of the Dinobots, though.
While not in dire need of an update, I would like to see some Movieverse characters get translated into the Generations style. The Movies had such a huge impact on the brand it's a shame that (outside of Bumblebee) there really hasn't been much carryover. Animated's (admittedly far more deserving) Lockdown, Bulkhead, and Lugnut have reappeared time and again, why not Barricade and Blackout? (not even talking about a Leader Blackout, just *a* Blackout)
Yes, yes it was.
While not in dire need of an update, I would like to see some Movieverse characters get translated into the Generations style. The Movies had such a huge impact on the brand it's a shame that (outside of Bumblebee) there really hasn't been much carryover. Animated's (admittedly far more deserving) Lockdown, Bulkhead, and Lugnut have reappeared time and again, why not Barricade and Blackout? (not even talking about a Leader Blackout, just *a* Blackout)
william-james88 wrote:Best Wars
Yes, yes it was.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686268)
Posted by YoungPrime on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:51am CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:51am CDT
An IDW Scorponok would be nice since last years Botcon crap doesn't count. I don't care if its a Voyager or Leader class all I know is that I need one. Overlord and Fort Max too.
DJD, Scavengers, Sharkticons (Legends or deluxe), Alicon (deluxe or voyager), Reflector (3 legends), Trypticon (Titan class) and an updated Quintesson.
Make them imposing figures that transform topped off with the "Man-E-Faces" treatment.
DJD, Scavengers, Sharkticons (Legends or deluxe), Alicon (deluxe or voyager), Reflector (3 legends), Trypticon (Titan class) and an updated Quintesson.
Make them imposing figures that transform topped off with the "Man-E-Faces" treatment.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686272)
Posted by Rated X on May 16th, 2015 @ 9:10am CDT
Posted by Rated X on May 16th, 2015 @ 9:10am CDT
I gotta disagree with some of the choices because they already exist in an official capacity “CHUG” form. Since Hasbro loves to repaint and retool existing molds on their own for the Generations line, you have to count TFCC Botcon figures as official CHUG repaints as well. Whether or not you want to pay e-bay prices for them is a totally different story. You might want to add “retail” to the title of this thread.
CHUG Elita One already exists:
Sure she is a boat, but she is still a great CHUG representation of the character. Even the head sculpt screams Elita One from a neo perspective. If you don’t want to dive into the dark side and buy MMC’s version, there should be plenty of these for sale cheap by this point.
And once again, while it is super neo, Beast Hunters Sky Lynx should be able to fill the spot on a CHUG shelf if you want to stay with a Hasbro only theme. Love it or hate it, you gotta admit its another example of a CHUG repaint. I could have seen Funpub doing it if Target hadn’t beaten them to it. It kind of works in beast mode if you put him in the background of your CHUG shelf and squint you eye like he is far away.
On a side note, vintage G1 Sky Lynx scales so well with CHUG figures by cartoon standards, he fits in very well on a CHUG shelf being the non traditional type of character he is.
On a side note, vintage G1 Sky Lynx scales so well with CHUG figures by cartoon standards, he fits in very well on a CHUG shelf being the non traditional type of character he is.
On the Dinobots, once again convention exclusives come into play when were talking CHUG:
Also, these Animated versions could be shoehorned into a CHUG display in dinosaur mode:
Honestly, if you ever do decide to go third party for one character (or set) you should consider the Dinobots. Whether you want MP or CHUG scale, the choices are endless…
On Blackarachnia, while you don’t have an official CHUG homages, you have a couple versions that are blatant homages to the original character in different continuities. If you love the character that much, the you need her on your CHUG shelf now, they both make excellent stand ins:
I especially like the Animated version because the helmet covers most of those annoying Animated facial aesthetics. The Animated body aesthetic is very feminine as well. She looks a lot like the Beast wars screen model, plus she turns into a spider. After writing this, I think Im gonna buy one for my CHUG shelf. I had no Beast Wars stuff when this figure was in stores, but now I see the potential she has for CHUG.
You gotta be patient with Beast Wars because it is just now reaching the age where the homage value is coming into play with 90’s kids all grown up ready to buy. We have seen a host of both Hasbro and Funpub Beast Wars homages in recent years and Im sure more are coming.
We almost had a CHUG Silverbolt, but the contest was overwhelmed with Japanese fans who wanted a stupid Goshooter from a mold that isn’t even a headmaster. I was hoping for Silverbolt myself because the Grimwing mold works so well. And Im sure someone would have designed a better head to make it even better. The only good thing about that fan contest was that it proved the Sunstreaker, Bluestreak, and Ironhide molds are still intact and ready to deliver some Diaclone goodness if us fans call for it enough.
CHUG Elita One already exists:
Sure she is a boat, but she is still a great CHUG representation of the character. Even the head sculpt screams Elita One from a neo perspective. If you don’t want to dive into the dark side and buy MMC’s version, there should be plenty of these for sale cheap by this point.
And once again, while it is super neo, Beast Hunters Sky Lynx should be able to fill the spot on a CHUG shelf if you want to stay with a Hasbro only theme. Love it or hate it, you gotta admit its another example of a CHUG repaint. I could have seen Funpub doing it if Target hadn’t beaten them to it. It kind of works in beast mode if you put him in the background of your CHUG shelf and squint you eye like he is far away.
On a side note, vintage G1 Sky Lynx scales so well with CHUG figures by cartoon standards, he fits in very well on a CHUG shelf being the non traditional type of character he is.
On a side note, vintage G1 Sky Lynx scales so well with CHUG figures by cartoon standards, he fits in very well on a CHUG shelf being the non traditional type of character he is.
On the Dinobots, once again convention exclusives come into play when were talking CHUG:
Also, these Animated versions could be shoehorned into a CHUG display in dinosaur mode:
Honestly, if you ever do decide to go third party for one character (or set) you should consider the Dinobots. Whether you want MP or CHUG scale, the choices are endless…
On Blackarachnia, while you don’t have an official CHUG homages, you have a couple versions that are blatant homages to the original character in different continuities. If you love the character that much, the you need her on your CHUG shelf now, they both make excellent stand ins:
I especially like the Animated version because the helmet covers most of those annoying Animated facial aesthetics. The Animated body aesthetic is very feminine as well. She looks a lot like the Beast wars screen model, plus she turns into a spider. After writing this, I think Im gonna buy one for my CHUG shelf. I had no Beast Wars stuff when this figure was in stores, but now I see the potential she has for CHUG.
You gotta be patient with Beast Wars because it is just now reaching the age where the homage value is coming into play with 90’s kids all grown up ready to buy. We have seen a host of both Hasbro and Funpub Beast Wars homages in recent years and Im sure more are coming.
We almost had a CHUG Silverbolt, but the contest was overwhelmed with Japanese fans who wanted a stupid Goshooter from a mold that isn’t even a headmaster. I was hoping for Silverbolt myself because the Grimwing mold works so well. And Im sure someone would have designed a better head to make it even better. The only good thing about that fan contest was that it proved the Sunstreaker, Bluestreak, and Ironhide molds are still intact and ready to deliver some Diaclone goodness if us fans call for it enough.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686274)
Posted by conbot3 on May 16th, 2015 @ 9:16am CDT
Posted by conbot3 on May 16th, 2015 @ 9:16am CDT
I would like to see:
1. leader class BROADSIDE(triplechanger)
2. leader class FLAT TOP (recolour of broadside with a different headsculpt)
3. leader class TIDALWAVE (updated version of armada/energon version)
4. Voyager class IMPACTOR (from the old UK marvel story line)
5. voyager class RACK'N'RUIN (then we would have complete wrecker team)
I know these would probably won't happen but one can dream
1. leader class BROADSIDE(triplechanger)
2. leader class FLAT TOP (recolour of broadside with a different headsculpt)
3. leader class TIDALWAVE (updated version of armada/energon version)
4. Voyager class IMPACTOR (from the old UK marvel story line)
5. voyager class RACK'N'RUIN (then we would have complete wrecker team)
I know these would probably won't happen but one can dream
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686280)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 16th, 2015 @ 9:41am CDT
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 16th, 2015 @ 9:41am CDT
I'd love to see the micromasters updated, but if they're kept tiny and with improved articulation. I always loved the 4 packs and bases and would love to see that again
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686291)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 16th, 2015 @ 10:18am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 16th, 2015 @ 10:18am CDT
I don't get what's with all the red glowy crap in the FoC Dinobots pic. Not keen on the designs either and the Grimlock toy is really, really dull. For G1 Grimmy I'd rather than downscaled the Masterpiece to Voyager size but improve the dino-mode to slightly more modern t-rex design.
I'd really like an updated Carnivac figure but then he was one of my faves from the Marvel comic and possibly too obscure for Hasbro to care. I've had to settle with a Cybertron Snarl repainted as him for years. Best I can do but I'd really like a proper update (even just so he doesn't have a wolf-head for a hand like CybSnarl does)
And I agree with a voyager Hot Rod/Rodimus. I liked the classics figure from 2006 a lot (it's still among the few classics I really like) but it's too small when compared to Voyager Springer or even Deluxe Arcee. A costly japanese import redeco of Springer doesn't really suffice (though I'm doing a custom Rodimus from Springer my own way to look much more distinct from Springer than the Cloud one does).
I'd really like an updated Carnivac figure but then he was one of my faves from the Marvel comic and possibly too obscure for Hasbro to care. I've had to settle with a Cybertron Snarl repainted as him for years. Best I can do but I'd really like a proper update (even just so he doesn't have a wolf-head for a hand like CybSnarl does)
And I agree with a voyager Hot Rod/Rodimus. I liked the classics figure from 2006 a lot (it's still among the few classics I really like) but it's too small when compared to Voyager Springer or even Deluxe Arcee. A costly japanese import redeco of Springer doesn't really suffice (though I'm doing a custom Rodimus from Springer my own way to look much more distinct from Springer than the Cloud one does).
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686292)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 16th, 2015 @ 10:39am CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 16th, 2015 @ 10:39am CDT
I agree with all of these except Silverbolt. Beast Machines Silverbolt was very disappointing, especially coming off of Beast Wars.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686294)
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on May 16th, 2015 @ 10:46am CDT
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on May 16th, 2015 @ 10:46am CDT
I'd like to see a generations 2015 update to rid sideways's Armada body and headmaster gimmick
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686295)
Posted by RhA on May 16th, 2015 @ 10:49am CDT
OH DEAR SWEET JESUS YES
Posted by RhA on May 16th, 2015 @ 10:49am CDT
Autobot tap out wrote:I'd like to see a generations 2015 update to rid sideways's Armada body and headmaster gimmick
OH DEAR SWEET JESUS YES
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686299)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:19am CDT
Indeed.
Let me add a supreme class Armada Tidalwave on top of that.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:19am CDT
RhA wrote:Autobot tap out wrote:I'd like to see a generations 2015 update to rid sideways's Armada body and headmaster gimmick
OH DEAR SWEET JESUS YES
Indeed.
Let me add a supreme class Armada Tidalwave on top of that.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686300)
Posted by megatronus on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:25am CDT
Posted by megatronus on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:25am CDT
Oh, WJ, I love your lists! I'll come back with some ideas later, but for now, I'll just say you really fooled me with that Overlord headline image! Now THAT's something I'd like to see.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686301)
Posted by RhA on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:26am CDT
I REPEAT MY ABOVE COMMENT.
Posted by RhA on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:26am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:RhA wrote:Autobot tap out wrote:I'd like to see a generations 2015 update to rid sideways's Armada body and headmaster gimmick
OH DEAR SWEET JESUS YES
Indeed.
Let me add a supreme class Armada Tidalwave on top of that.
I REPEAT MY ABOVE COMMENT.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686311)
Posted by MaverickPrime on May 16th, 2015 @ 12:04pm CDT
Posted by MaverickPrime on May 16th, 2015 @ 12:04pm CDT
Many, many Beast Wars characters deserve an update, like Inferno, Tigatron, Airrazor and Scorponok, while Rampage and Depth Charge need to be REISSUED, their toys were perfect and I still want to get them 
Oh god no, you did NOT compare Airachnid's toy with BW Blackarachnia!
Agreed with the missed oportunity of a new Silverbolt, though.
Rated X wrote:On Blackarachnia, while you don’t have an official CHUG homages, you have a couple versions that are blatant homages to the original character in different continuities. If you love the character that much, the you need her on your CHUG shelf now, they both make excellent stand ins:
I especially like the Animated version because the helmet covers most of those annoying Animated facial aesthetics. The Animated body aesthetic is very feminine as well. She looks a lot like the Beast wars screen model, plus she turns into a spider. After writing this, I think Im gonna buy one for my CHUG shelf. I had no Beast Wars stuff when this figure was in stores, but now I see the potential she has for CHUG.
You gotta be patient with Beast Wars because it is just now reaching the age where the homage value is coming into play with 90’s kids all grown up ready to buy. We have seen a host of both Hasbro and Funpub Beast Wars homages in recent years and Im sure more are coming.
We almost had a CHUG Silverbolt, but the contest was overwhelmed with Japanese fans who wanted a stupid Goshooter from a mold that isn’t even a headmaster. I was hoping for Silverbolt myself because the Grimwing mold works so well. And Im sure someone would have designed a better head to make it even better. The only good thing about that fan contest was that it proved the Sunstreaker, Bluestreak, and Ironhide molds are still intact and ready to deliver some Diaclone goodness if us fans call for it enough.
Oh god no, you did NOT compare Airachnid's toy with BW Blackarachnia!
Agreed with the missed oportunity of a new Silverbolt, though.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686323)
Posted by Starsaber468 on May 16th, 2015 @ 12:41pm CDT
Posted by Starsaber468 on May 16th, 2015 @ 12:41pm CDT
Sky lynx needs a major update and right now is the prefect time to do one for combiner wars or combiner hunters at least
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686325)
Posted by Starsaber468 on May 16th, 2015 @ 12:48pm CDT
Posted by Starsaber468 on May 16th, 2015 @ 12:48pm CDT
Guys you do know tidal wave was one of those one time things right plus hes not that cool Plus guys hasbro discontinued supreme class figures 
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686336)
Posted by Rated X on May 16th, 2015 @ 1:24pm CDT
Actually Air Razor did get an update in the form of a pre-earth cybertronian mode by funpub. Its pretty cool. on Blackarachnia, while im no fan of her coptor mode, I still count it as a homage. As ststed earlier, I prefer the animated figure. I would love to see funpub redeco it with more orange and no purple. That would work for me. I would rather see hasbro focus on scorponok and terrasaur and inferno who dont have an older mold that can be properly redecoed.
Posted by Rated X on May 16th, 2015 @ 1:24pm CDT
MaverickPrime wrote:Many, many Beast Wars characters deserve an update, like Inferno, Tigatron, Airrazor and Scorponok, while Rampage and Depth Charge need to be REISSUED, their toys were perfect and I still want to get themRated X wrote:On Blackarachnia, while you don’t have an official CHUG homages, you have a couple versions that are blatant homages to the original character in different continuities. If you love the character that much, the you need her on your CHUG shelf now, they both make excellent stand ins:
I especially like the Animated version because the helmet covers most of those annoying Animated facial aesthetics. The Animated body aesthetic is very feminine as well. She looks a lot like the Beast wars screen model, plus she turns into a spider. After writing this, I think Im gonna buy one for my CHUG shelf. I had no Beast Wars stuff when this figure was in stores, but now I see the potential she has for CHUG.
You gotta be patient with Beast Wars because it is just now reaching the age where the homage value is coming into play with 90’s kids all grown up ready to buy. We have seen a host of both Hasbro and Funpub Beast Wars homages in recent years and Im sure more are coming.
We almost had a CHUG Silverbolt, but the contest was overwhelmed with Japanese fans who wanted a stupid Goshooter from a mold that isn’t even a headmaster. I was hoping for Silverbolt myself because the Grimwing mold works so well. And Im sure someone would have designed a better head to make it even better. The only good thing about that fan contest was that it proved the Sunstreaker, Bluestreak, and Ironhide molds are still intact and ready to deliver some Diaclone goodness if us fans call for it enough.
Oh god no, you did NOT compare Airachnid's toy with BW Blackarachnia!
Agreed with the missed oportunity of a new Silverbolt, though.
Actually Air Razor did get an update in the form of a pre-earth cybertronian mode by funpub. Its pretty cool. on Blackarachnia, while im no fan of her coptor mode, I still count it as a homage. As ststed earlier, I prefer the animated figure. I would love to see funpub redeco it with more orange and no purple. That would work for me. I would rather see hasbro focus on scorponok and terrasaur and inferno who dont have an older mold that can be properly redecoed.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686337)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 16th, 2015 @ 1:26pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 16th, 2015 @ 1:26pm CDT
any order Masterpieces don't count
trypticon
scorponok
omega supreme/Dark Guardian
sixshot
predaking
Rodimusprime
reflector
i could list many more!
trypticon
scorponok
omega supreme/Dark Guardian
sixshot
predaking
Rodimusprime
reflector
i could list many more!
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686354)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:49pm CDT
Since when? They re-released the mold for TF: Energon, with alleged electronic features.
Which is why he needs an update. He could be so much more than hi is.
eaver hear of these things called Titan class figures?
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:49pm CDT
Starsaber468 wrote:Guys you do know tidal wave was one of those one time things right
Since when? They re-released the mold for TF: Energon, with alleged electronic features.
plus hes not that cool
Which is why he needs an update. He could be so much more than hi is.
Plus guys hasbro discontinued supreme class figures
eaver hear of these things called Titan class figures?
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686357)
Posted by Darth Zax on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:57pm CDT
Posted by Darth Zax on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:57pm CDT
Beast Machines Jetstorm from this guy
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686360)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 16th, 2015 @ 3:09pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 16th, 2015 @ 3:09pm CDT
how about a proper shockwave! voyager or leader size, changes into an alein looking gun
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686366)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 16th, 2015 @ 3:37pm CDT
A titan sized tidal wave...yes please. How many souls must I sacrifice to get that.
I own the Energon version of tw and I love it to pieces a bigger and more detailed version (especially in the aircraft carrier) would be most welcome.
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 16th, 2015 @ 3:37pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Starsaber468 wrote:Guys you do know tidal wave was one of those one time things right
Since when? They re-released the mold for TF: Energon, with alleged electronic features.plus hes not that cool
Which is why he needs an update. He could be so much more than hi is.Plus guys hasbro discontinued supreme class figures
eaver hear of these things called Titan class figures?
A titan sized tidal wave...yes please. How many souls must I sacrifice to get that.
I own the Energon version of tw and I love it to pieces a bigger and more detailed version (especially in the aircraft carrier) would be most welcome.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686370)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 16th, 2015 @ 3:47pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 16th, 2015 @ 3:47pm CDT
what we really need what officially hasn't been done yet is "Broadside" to complete the autobot triple changers 
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686377)
Posted by thedistinctroom on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:23pm CDT
Posted by thedistinctroom on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:23pm CDT
I just wish Tomy or Hasbro would simply take old vintage molds, and add new / different parts to them, to create some kind of hybrid between G1 & CHUG.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686379)
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:27pm CDT
Haha, sorry I fooled you, but that picture was SO perfect to illustrate how we need some updates in order for scenes to make sense. And as I said, never mind a generations version, I would LOVE a G1 toy rerelease
Glad you like the lists, I have enough for another 2 years at least.
Well, this list was the very first to be mostly done with input from the community thanks to your advice. But I did indulge myself by inserting one entry that was my own, and you can basically guess which one that was
You beat me to it. And your argument for Tidal Wave being "so much more cool than he is" is the same argument I would give for BM Silverbolt. That guy was basically Batman (check out his forearms and the episode he was introduced in is called In Darkest Knight).
Dont worry, there was a whole list dedicated to him and a few others: Top 5 Transformers Toys That Need An Upscale
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:27pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Oh, WJ, I love your lists! I'll come back with some ideas later, but for now, I'll just say you really fooled me with that Overlord headline image! Now THAT's something I'd like to see.
Haha, sorry I fooled you, but that picture was SO perfect to illustrate how we need some updates in order for scenes to make sense. And as I said, never mind a generations version, I would LOVE a G1 toy rerelease
Glad you like the lists, I have enough for another 2 years at least.Nemesis Maximo wrote:I agree with all of these except Silverbolt. Beast Machines Silverbolt was very disappointing, especially coming off of Beast Wars.
Well, this list was the very first to be mostly done with input from the community thanks to your advice. But I did indulge myself by inserting one entry that was my own, and you can basically guess which one that was
Nemesis Maximo wrote:plus hes not that cool
Which is why he needs an update. He could be so much more than hi is.Plus guys hasbro discontinued supreme class figures
eaver hear of these things called Titan class figures?
You beat me to it. And your argument for Tidal Wave being "so much more cool than he is" is the same argument I would give for BM Silverbolt. That guy was basically Batman (check out his forearms and the episode he was introduced in is called In Darkest Knight).
Ultra Markus wrote:how about a proper shockwave! voyager or leader size, changes into an alein looking gun
Dont worry, there was a whole list dedicated to him and a few others: Top 5 Transformers Toys That Need An Upscale
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686380)
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:29pm CDT
I honestly feel combiner wars is emulating that exact idea. And in the case of the recent legends figures, that is exactly what is happening,
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:29pm CDT
thedistinctroom wrote:I just wish Tomy or Hasbro would simply take old vintage molds, and add new / different parts to them, to create some kind of hybrid between G1 & CHUG.
I honestly feel combiner wars is emulating that exact idea. And in the case of the recent legends figures, that is exactly what is happening,
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686400)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:56pm CDT
Posted by Optimum Supreme on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:56pm CDT
1. Powermaster Optimus. Yes, Optimus has lots of good toys, and many of those are generations toys, but not in Powermaster form. I don't really care about the apex armor, since that wasn't a thing (in America) until well later, but he needs Hi-Q.
2. Insecticon Kickback. We already have Bombshell and "Skrapnel", they NEED to complete the trio. I'd also like to see the deluxe insecticons, but ol' grasshopperbreath is the one that HAS to get made for generations.
3. Omega Supreme. Titan. 'nuff said.
4. Sky Lynx. Yeah, for a character that got so much airtime back in the day, you'd think they would've gotten to him by now. Not a Takara, but neither were Whirl/Roadbuster and we got them, and they really got shafted in fiction.
5. Doublecross. I just like Doublecross.
2. Insecticon Kickback. We already have Bombshell and "Skrapnel", they NEED to complete the trio. I'd also like to see the deluxe insecticons, but ol' grasshopperbreath is the one that HAS to get made for generations.
3. Omega Supreme. Titan. 'nuff said.
4. Sky Lynx. Yeah, for a character that got so much airtime back in the day, you'd think they would've gotten to him by now. Not a Takara, but neither were Whirl/Roadbuster and we got them, and they really got shafted in fiction.
5. Doublecross. I just like Doublecross.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686403)
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:00pm CDT
Not sure you understand what update means... Animated Blackarachnia is Animated Blackarachnia, Airachnid is Airachnid, and that Airazor was a repaint. Updates are new molds based on old designs... Animated Blackarachnia was a new design, Airachnid is a different character entirely, and Airazor was not a new mold. Like you mentioned, those were just homaged, and none of them fit on the Classics shelf (especially with the AEC, Animated, and Prime aesthetics).
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:00pm CDT
Rated X wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:Many, many Beast Wars characters deserve an update, like Inferno, Tigatron, Airrazor and Scorponok, while Rampage and Depth Charge need to be REISSUED, their toys were perfect and I still want to get themRated X wrote:On Blackarachnia, while you don’t have an official CHUG homages, you have a couple versions that are blatant homages to the original character in different continuities. If you love the character that much, the you need her on your CHUG shelf now, they both make excellent stand ins:
I especially like the Animated version because the helmet covers most of those annoying Animated facial aesthetics. The Animated body aesthetic is very feminine as well. She looks a lot like the Beast wars screen model, plus she turns into a spider. After writing this, I think Im gonna buy one for my CHUG shelf. I had no Beast Wars stuff when this figure was in stores, but now I see the potential she has for CHUG.
You gotta be patient with Beast Wars because it is just now reaching the age where the homage value is coming into play with 90’s kids all grown up ready to buy. We have seen a host of both Hasbro and Funpub Beast Wars homages in recent years and Im sure more are coming.
We almost had a CHUG Silverbolt, but the contest was overwhelmed with Japanese fans who wanted a stupid Goshooter from a mold that isn’t even a headmaster. I was hoping for Silverbolt myself because the Grimwing mold works so well. And Im sure someone would have designed a better head to make it even better. The only good thing about that fan contest was that it proved the Sunstreaker, Bluestreak, and Ironhide molds are still intact and ready to deliver some Diaclone goodness if us fans call for it enough.
Oh god no, you did NOT compare Airachnid's toy with BW Blackarachnia!
Agreed with the missed oportunity of a new Silverbolt, though.
Actually Air Razor did get an update in the form of a pre-earth cybertronian mode by funpub. Its pretty cool. on Blackarachnia, while im no fan of her coptor mode, I still count it as a homage. As ststed earlier, I prefer the animated figure. I would love to see funpub redeco it with more orange and no purple. That would work for me. I would rather see hasbro focus on scorponok and terrasaur and inferno who dont have an older mold that can be properly redecoed.
Not sure you understand what update means... Animated Blackarachnia is Animated Blackarachnia, Airachnid is Airachnid, and that Airazor was a repaint. Updates are new molds based on old designs... Animated Blackarachnia was a new design, Airachnid is a different character entirely, and Airazor was not a new mold. Like you mentioned, those were just homaged, and none of them fit on the Classics shelf (especially with the AEC, Animated, and Prime aesthetics).
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686410)
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:09pm CDT
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:09pm CDT
I honestly felt that very few beast machines figures did their figures proper justice. The three best figures in that line were the black Arachnia, the deluxe cheetor, and the vehicon thrust
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686412)
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:12pm CDT
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:12pm CDT
Tell swoop good part kup.
Rodimuspryml wrote:I honestly felt that very few beast machines figures did their figures proper justice. The three best figures in that line were the black Arachnia, the deluxe cheetor, and the vehicon thrust
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686418)
Posted by DaBan on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:16pm CDT
Posted by DaBan on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:16pm CDT
If they ever make a Generations Swoop, then a Generations Terrorsaur will probably be made from that same mold and vice - versa (Whether good or bad that's probably what's going to happen if they ever get to them)
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686425)
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:27pm CDT
Which Blackarachnia?
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:27pm CDT
Rodimuspryml wrote:I honestly felt that very few beast machines figures did their figures proper justice. The three best figures in that line were the black Arachnia, the deluxe cheetor, and the vehicon thrust
Which Blackarachnia?
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686428)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:32pm CDT
This one:
This figure is one of the few to be reasonably show-accurate, color aside, plus the spider mode isn't too shabby:
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:32pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Rodimuspryml wrote:I honestly felt that very few beast machines figures did their figures proper justice. The three best figures in that line were the black Arachnia, the deluxe cheetor, and the vehicon thrust
Which Blackarachnia?
This one:
This figure is one of the few to be reasonably show-accurate, color aside, plus the spider mode isn't too shabby:
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686431)
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:41pm CDT
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:41pm CDT
1. Leader sized G1 Galvatron.
2. Supreme sized Overlord.
3. Titan Trypticon
4. Leader sized G1 Rodimus Prime. One piece truck to bot transformation. Similar to 2015 Generations Leader Ultra Magnus.
5. Leader sized G1 Shockwave. That Transforms from robot to the iconic G1 Space laser gun.
2. Supreme sized Overlord.
3. Titan Trypticon
4. Leader sized G1 Rodimus Prime. One piece truck to bot transformation. Similar to 2015 Generations Leader Ultra Magnus.
5. Leader sized G1 Shockwave. That Transforms from robot to the iconic G1 Space laser gun.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686433)
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:44pm CDT
Girl's got some serious junk in the trunk.
Wish their was a, Like it, Avatar.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:44pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Girl's got some serious junk in the trunk.
Wish their was a, Like it, Avatar.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686462)
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:22pm CDT
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:22pm CDT
Couldn't agree more with this list. Honestly it's about what I would've said
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686465)
Posted by NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:31pm CDT
Posted by NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:31pm CDT
Great list...I'd like to add...Bludgeon.
Yeah we got that pretty cool DOTM figure, but I'd like something a little less....Bayish.
I'm thinking a scaled down redeco of the CW Megatron mold might be pretty damn cool.
Yeah we got that pretty cool DOTM figure, but I'd like something a little less....Bayish.
I'm thinking a scaled down redeco of the CW Megatron mold might be pretty damn cool.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686472)
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:42pm CDT
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:42pm CDT
That is the one, if they would have done a deluxe silverbolt instead of that basic waste of plastic then I would have been happy. Oh also a better night scream then the piece of crap they managed to put out. They even got it right the second time around with the air attack primal.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686478)
Posted by NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:49pm CDT
Ohhh Nightscream yeah that is a great choice.
I mean we got two version...insanely oversized massive, or Happy Meal toy...and to be honest...Happy Meal is actually the better product.
Posted by NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:49pm CDT
Rodimuspryml wrote:That is the one, if they would have done a deluxe silverbolt instead of that basic waste of plastic then I would have been happy. Oh also a better night scream then the piece of crap they managed to put out. They even got it right the second time around with the air attack primal.
Ohhh Nightscream yeah that is a great choice.
I mean we got two version...insanely oversized massive, or Happy Meal toy...and to be honest...Happy Meal is actually the better product.
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686495)
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:20pm CDT
Posted by Rodimuspryml on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:20pm CDT
We never even got a botanica figure
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686507)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:56pm CDT
Or, even easier, just restart the encore line and give us the entire victory and return of convoy lines before shutting that down again
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:56pm CDT
thedistinctroom wrote:I just wish Tomy or Hasbro would simply take old vintage molds, and add new / different parts to them, to create some kind of hybrid between G1 & CHUG.
Or, even easier, just restart the encore line and give us the entire victory and return of convoy lines before shutting that down again
Re: Top 5 Transformers Generations Figures not made yet (1686514)
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:52pm CDT
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 8:52pm CDT
Desslok2201 wrote:thedistinctroom wrote:I just wish Tomy or Hasbro would simply take old vintage molds, and add new / different parts to them, to create some kind of hybrid between G1 & CHUG.
Or, even easier, just restart the encore line and give us the entire victory and return of convoy lines before shutting that down again
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
