New Transformers: The Last Knight "Rethink The Past" Teaser featuring Ironhide, Starscream, More

Holy sh*t, I am SO stoked to see this movie!! These pictures can totally be part of spin-offs, including that WWII version of Bumblebee in The Bumblebee Movie.

thats.........


......actually interesting.

i STILL dont believe bays capable of delivering an actual film with a decent plot/storyline but it at the very least show's effort.

itll probably still suck but if more stuff like this comes out and its actually addressed decently in the film we could finally have afilm where the writers won out.

partholon wrote:i STILL dont believe bays capable of delivering an actual film with a decent plot/storyline

Well, of course not. That's the writer's job.

SnoopDawg wrote:
Clearly this means that the Bumblebee intro they gave in Transformers: The Game (2007) is not canon. I mean it was obvious before, but this confirms it.

None of the video games have ever been canon not even the DOTM game.

Same goes for comics the film makers have never seen them as canon and if it was not evident before it is now.

dragons wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

partholon wrote:i STILL dont believe bays capable of delivering an actual film with a decent plot/storyline

Well, of course not. That's the writer's job.

Instead of going to movie as non paid movie critic go to movie as someone new movie fan you may surprise your self., since when did transformers comics and cartoons had good story and plot evil robots
In disguise try take over universe good bots stop them 99 percent of time they have help with humans can't get no bad than that.,

If you want good plot and story read Shakespeare's , edger Allen Poe or you could compare transformers movies to old black and white cowboy movies and three stooges to add to list

I'm a fan of the movies but your reasoning is flawed what was in the past is no damn excuse for future fiction.

Last Stand of the wreckers is a great story for example and while the G1 cartoon or the god awful Transformers Prime cartoon is rather bad there has been good fiction in our franchise.

dragons wrote: evil robots
In disguise try take over universe good bots stop them 99 percent of time they have help with humans can't get no bad than that.,

That's not even a story that's a snyposis and a good story is about what people do with the setting because originality is long dead so it's up to writers to retell old stories and themes in a new way that may or may not be interesting.

Nobody is watching Transformers for Shakespeare at all people just want good movies wheteher that be a good story or just an amazing watching experience people watch Transformers for Transformers not Shakespeare in fact for me I couldn't care any less for him but I want to see a good "Transformers" movie and I personally think the new one is going to hit the mark or at least close to it.

SnoopDawg wrote:

Deadput wrote:
I'm a fan of the movies but your reasoning is flawed what was in the past is no damn excuse for future fiction.

Last Stand of the wreckers is a great story for example and while the G1 cartoon or the god awful Transformers Prime cartoon is rather bad there has been good fiction in our franchise.

Now, I don't want to start a brawl (no pun intended) on this topic, but I thought Transformers: Prime was one of the best continuities of the franchise. There some errors in Prime as in any other Transformer story, but it is definitely not "god awful" ...

I was never so bored in any other Transformers show compared to Prime's who's world is so dull, grey and empty like where are the humans even in that new york episode espically when it's sequel RID manages to fix this problem.

The character development was either forgotten or reset and Megatron's plans were never actual plans in the first place he was more incompetent then Movie Megatron who at least made multiple thought out plans.

Remember Cliffjumper's wasted potential or Breakdown's or even Dreadwing's?

The cast was awful on the Autobot side with the worse boring cardboard Optimus, angsty, hypocrite Arcee who contently forgets her development to chase after grudges and call out others for doing the same, Bulkhead who was just there even after they made a "big" deal on his injury that never effected anything afterwards, Bumblebee suffered for his missing voice for the majority of the show with movie Bumblebee at least being active in his body language and using the radio where Prime Bee does not, Ultra Magnus also suffered from poorly used stoic personality and being a last season character who constantly got his aft kicked.

Ratchet, Smokescreen and Wheeljack were the only remotely interesting Autobots and the latter two kinda had thier story arcs "dropped" like Smokescreen's "destiny" and Wheeljack's loner thing which he forgets about without thinking and joins in season 3 which was a rushed season overall mostly due to the original plans being dropped besides Ultra Magnus and Shockwave.

The cons besides idiot Megatron were decent but suffered from the writers having no idea what to do with them either making them dead or packed away also Starscream's contently changing his personality is he traitorous or loyal, is he a serious and deadly warrior or an incompetent comedy relief who somehow is the second in command of the Decepticons which says a lot about Megatron's intelligence.

The stakes were never raised and the Decepticons never have the advantage and the status quo is always reset.

I expect the 2 hour movies to have these flaws not the longest Transformers cartoon since G1, how does Animated a much shorter show with a lighter tone manage to be much more interesting and mature then that waste of time.

Oh and in real life the show staff decided to diss Hasbro's plans and were disrespectful with the whole Aligned continuity thing.

MadProject wrote:who is supposed to be Bruticus?

Wondering the same thing, that fella at the end maybe?

Deadput wrote:

SnoopDawg wrote:

Deadput wrote:
I'm a fan of the movies but your reasoning is flawed what was in the past is no damn excuse for future fiction.

Last Stand of the wreckers is a great story for example and while the G1 cartoon or the god awful Transformers Prime cartoon is rather bad there has been good fiction in our franchise.

Now, I don't want to start a brawl (no pun intended) on this topic, but I thought Transformers: Prime was one of the best continuities of the franchise. There some errors in Prime as in any other Transformer story, but it is definitely not "god awful" ...

I was never so bored in any other Transformers show compared to Prime's who's world is so dull, grey and empty like where are the humans even in that new york episode espically when it's sequel RID manages to fix this problem.

The character development was either forgotten or reset and Megatron's plans were never actual plans in the first place he was more incompetent then Movie Megatron who at least made multiple thought out plans.

Remember Cliffjumper's wasted potential or Breakdown's or even Dreadwing's?

The cast was awful on the Autobot side with the worse boring cardboard Optimus, angsty, hypocrite Arcee who contently forgets her development to chase after grudges and call out others for doing the same, Bulkhead who was just there even after they made a "big" deal on his injury that never effected anything afterwards, Bumblebee suffered for his missing voice for the majority of the show with movie Bumblebee at least being active in his body language and using the radio where Prime Bee does not, Ultra Magnus also suffered from poorly used stoic personality and being a last season character who constantly got his aft kicked.

Ratchet, Smokescreen and Wheeljack were the only remotely interesting Autobots and the latter two kinda had thier story arcs "dropped" like Smokescreen's "destiny" and Wheeljack's loner thing which he forgets about without thinking and joins in season 3 which was a rushed season overall mostly due to the original plans being dropped besides Ultra Magnus and Shockwave.

The cons besides idiot Megatron were decent but suffered from the writers having no idea what to do with them either making them dead or packed away also Starscream's contently changing his personality is he traitorous or loyal, is he a serious and deadly warrior or an incompetent comedy relief who somehow is the second in command of the Decepticons which says a lot about Megatron's intelligence.

The stakes were never raised and the Decepticons never have the advantage and the status quo is always reset.

I expect the 2 hour movies to have these flaws not the longest Transformers cartoon since G1, how does Animated a much shorter show with a lighter tone manage to be much more interesting and mature then that waste of time.

Oh and in real life the show staff decided to diss Hasbro's plans and were disrespectful with the whole Aligned continuity thing.

Still a better story then energon!

Deadput wrote:Remember Cliffjumper's wasted potential or Breakdown's or even Dreadwing's?

Dreadwing had a ton of screen time and screen presence, at least enough for me to remember him fondly. He was a star of the show for me, and I wouldnt call him wasted potential. Sure I wouldnt mind seeing him more, but i feel we got a nice amount, much more than a Star Wars fan ever got of Boba fett

As for Breakdown, there wasnt much character to him. he was more the solomon grundy type (who then even became a zombie). As for clffjumper, well the Rock is way too expensive to keep as part of the main cast

All in all, I thought it was one of the better efforts in the history of small screen fiction and i had a good time. It brought me back into collecting too. Loved the cross between movie and G1 aesthetic and the toyline is one of the best we have ever gotten. I am with you SnooDawg (great username!). But of course, I respect everyone's opinion of these shows, and of these movies as well. I must admit i do preffer Prime to the films though, simply for it focusing more on the Robots and having better characters, and an Excellent Megatron! (not the toy though)

MadProject wrote:who is supposed to be Bruticus?

No one, Bruticus is not in this film But then again that might be a blessing, remember the last time the films had a combiner?

Looking forward to this movie but my main concern is that the decepticons will get the shaft once again. So far, they appear to be in only 1 scene as a group.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

MadProject wrote:who is supposed to be Bruticus?

No one, Bruticus is not in this film

The news story mentioned Bruticus.

Pretty sure Bronzewolf might've confused the bot at 0:17 for Bruticus when it appears to be a plane, as I've previously stated

Braker wrote:#bringbackjazz

Seriously though, how awesome would it be to have him show up out of nowhere in this movie in a new body? I can picture him being like a silver Kia Soul with red and blue diagonal stripes going across the hood

I'm all for having Jazz come back ... but why a Kia Soul?