SW's SilverHammer wrote:Not to argue to much about Xmen, but the thing about first class was it had enough continuity stay connected to the previous movies, while giving it enough room to not be entirely bound to said continuity. I dont believe first class was made with intention to be 100% a soft reboot, only that if it was successful the studio could move into a different direction without being entirely hamstrung by the abysmal performance of xmen 3 and the weight of the other movies. Thats part of why days for future past both ignores the third xmen movie and officially reboots the xmen movies with time travel shinnangins to continue with the prequels cast and direction.
I wouldn't be surprised if the bumblebee movie will be similar. Intended to be a prequel. but gives itself enough wiggle room that it can change the course of a stumbling franchise. If the movie performs well and is well received, it wouldn't be a shock if future transformers movies begin to veer away from the previous baggage of the 07 movie. Bumblebee definitely sets a new direction with a similar but different enough asthetic that it would be to much whiplash if they do reboot using bumblebee as the base.
This is what I was thinking, while it no doubts has quite a bit in common to the previous films with similar plot elements and art design aesthetic for the robots it also breaks away from the mold enough that the next film could go in a totally new direction.
The only big things that tie in to the Bay films is.
1: Bumblebee's movie/G1 hybrid inspired design as well as the more Bay-type elements in Shatter, Dropkick and to a lesser extent Blitzwing's designs but that's just an aesthetic, a reboot is probably going to have that sort of look going forward with a little more lean to G1 inspired elements, like despite being very blocky and G1 Optimus still has movie type eyes and has the wirey look in the places that aren't covered by kibble.
2: An organization called Sector 7 but this can always be retooled for a reboot as the orginization that deals with Transformers just like how in Transformers Animated, Prime and Cyberverse there is an Allspark which originated in the 2007 film yet has been reused countless times.
Bee spoiler regarding this point.
The fact that Shatter and Dropkick do not detect or mention anything about the Allspark or Megatron while inside Hoover Dam kinda supports an earlier line where Dr. Powell says this is their first contact with an Alien species, at the very least it's a pretty big continuity and directing error if this is a prequel to even only the 2007 film 3: In relation to number 2 (Very minor spoiler that I'm sure most in the general audience missed)
The small cameo appearance of a younger Simmons, just like above this can always be retooled to a new version of the character just like how there are different Witwicky's in other parts of the franchise heck for all we know this version of Simmons might never show up again, in an interview from a few days ago Travis said his cameo was a late decision and it wasn't even in the script, although I will say they found a great guy for him he looks just like a younger version of the character.4: Spoiler for end of film
Bee taking on the old Camaro at the end, this is honestly the biggest link that continues to tie it with the Bay films yet it's part of the scene that has one of the biggest continuity errors of the film with Prime appearing on Earth before 2007, again they could always just continue with this car and design in a reboot it doesn't prevent a reboot especially with the fact that we see the robot mode which doesn't look like the 2007 design but instead as this movie's Bee but slightly taller and with the Camaro car parts.So TLDR: it has it's ties and connections but none of those prevents Hasbro/Paramount from making this film a reboot.
