"Every Legend Hides a Secret" poster from Transformers: The Last Knight

DocBot89 wrote:When you say that Canopy is a tertiary character does that mean that he is pretty much a throw-away and dies immediately?

The closest I'll get to Imax is Vmax and after watching AOE at Vmax I'm reluctant to do it again.

BUT ... I am tempted to try it again, even going for the 3D experience which can get annoying with glasses.

Thanks for making it difficult to decide Ryan.

Deep inside me, buried under the cynical, grumpy old man, is the remains of the little boy who loves Transformers and desperately wants to get excited for this movie, but I just can't. I've been hurt too many times.

Though, not seeing it may not be an option, as my oldest son has expressed an interest in seeing it, and it has been placed before him as a reward option.

Also, I found this on Facebook this morning:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 4635291325


I haven't seen this on the site anywhere. First look at movie Hotrod? Granted, I've been avoiding movie talk like a plauge, so this could very well be old news.

Poster is no poster it's giant floor mat

Nexus Knight wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:Merlin? Merlin? MERLIN???? Ah, slaggin', crap. Please don't mix magic in. Please don't have magic mixed in my favorite sci-fi franchise...

There's been magic displayed in Transformers fiction before.

Alternately:

"The science of GoBotron would appear as magic to you humans." -- Cy-Kill.

Really? I can't recall when there was. Though, I could have just not seen it, so if you can point it out, I'll change my statement.

In the original cartoon, iirc:
- There's a Quintesson sorceror who uses magic straight up.
- An Atlantean princess transforms Seaspray into a flesh and blood person.
- Unicron repairs and completely physically alters the bodies of several Decepticons without touching them.
- The Matrix heavily alters Hot Rod into Rodimus with no apparent physical mechanism.
- The Matrix blows up Unicron through sheer force of goodness.
- The Matrix cures the galaxy spanning hate plague basically the same way.
- Starscream becomes a ghost.

Beast Era
- Starscream is still a ghost.
- The Vok are incorporeal floating skulls. At some point you just have to call it what it is.
- Megatron's master plan in Beast Machines was to devour enough souls to become a god.

Car Robots
- IIRC villain fed on energy of Earth's children through demonic ghost bats or something.
- Same villain was defeated by the collective love of Earth's children.

Unicron Trilogy
- IIRC Unicron is destroyed by Minicons using the Care Bear Stare.
- Starscream tries to become a god.

Transformers: Animated
- Prowl's entire character arc.

Dreamwave's Transformers
- Bludgeon and his cult perform a demonic ritual to summon The Fallen (and succeed).

Transformers: Aligned Continuity
- The Blood of Unicron (Dark Energob) makes Zombies.
- The Forge of Solus Prime makes/fixes things by beating on them. Smokescreen LITERALLY heals Optimus by smacking him with the hammer of a god.
- Unicron can make rock golems.
- Megatron is bound to Unicron's service after death, because of using Dark Energon.

IDW Comics
- D-Void, The Darkness, the Dead Universe, and almost everything associated with them
- Alternate Rewind isn't erased from the universe when they destroy the alternate Lost Light, which they explicitly state has no scientific explanation.
- The Enigma of Combination, whose source code (which presumably is the same as all of the other Primal relics) basically gives a person godlike power.
- Anything Perceptor says (according to Hot Rod).

I'm not 100% on all of those but that's what immediately popped into my head.

Caelus wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:Merlin? Merlin? MERLIN???? Ah, slaggin', crap. Please don't mix magic in. Please don't have magic mixed in my favorite sci-fi franchise...

There's been magic displayed in Transformers fiction before.

Alternately:

"The science of GoBotron would appear as magic to you humans." -- Cy-Kill.

Really? I can't recall when there was. Though, I could have just not seen it, so if you can point it out, I'll change my statement.

In the original cartoon, iirc:
- There's a Quintesson sorceror who uses magic straight up.
- An Atlantean princess transforms Seaspray into a flesh and blood person.
- Unicron repairs and completely physically alters the bodies of several Decepticons without touching them.
- The Matrix heavily alters Hot Rod into Rodimus with no apparent physical mechanism.
- The Matrix blows up Unicron through sheer force of goodness.
- The Matrix cures the galaxy spanning hate plague basically the same way.
- Starscream becomes a ghost.

Beast Era
- Starscream is still a ghost.
- The Vok are incorporeal floating skulls. At some point you just have to call it what it is.
- Megatron's master plan in Beast Machines was to devour enough souls to become a god.

Car Robots
- IIRC villain fed on energy of Earth's children through demonic ghost bats or something.
- Same villain was defeated by the collective love of Earth's children.

Unicron Trilogy
- IIRC Unicron is destroyed by Minicons using the Care Bear Stare.
- Starscream tries to become a god.

Transformers: Animated
- Prowl's entire character arc.

Dreamwave's Transformers
- Bludgeon and his cult perform a demonic ritual to summon The Fallen (and succeed).

Transformers: Aligned Continuity
- The Blood of Unicron (Dark Energob) makes Zombies.
- The Forge of Solus Prime makes/fixes things by beating on them. Smokescreen LITERALLY heals Optimus by smacking him with the hammer of a god.
- Unicron can make rock golems.
- Megatron is bound to Unicron's service after death, because of using Dark Energon.

IDW Comics
- D-Void, The Darkness, the Dead Universe, and almost everything associated with them
- Alternate Rewind isn't erased from the universe when they destroy the alternate Lost Light, which they explicitly state has no scientific explanation.
- The Enigma of Combination, whose source code (which presumably is the same as all of the other Primal relics) basically gives a person godlike power.
- Anything Perceptor says (according to Hot Rod).

I'm not 100% on all of those but that's what immediately popped into my head.

Maybe it's how I view "magic" as being, but many of these I don't consider to be so. I'm like my family, they have to outright state it as so for us to consider it magical. But several of these (like the Quintossen sorcerer, which I'd forgotten about) are on that fence, so I take back what I said. Though, would point out, Starscream was told to have a spark defect, which is why it's indestructible.

Maybe I'm overworrying, but hopefully the movie won't be ruined by it (at least, personally).

Sabrblade wrote:Another example of pure magic from the G1 cartoon would be from the episode "A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court", in which a wizard uses a magic spell to recharge the power-drained Autobots with lightning.

Even though his name is Beorht, that wizard is basically Merlin anyway.

I know those are dragon heads on the poster, but all I can see is Kremzeek.

Looks alot like Megatron's Movie 1 body on that poster, maybe we'll see it again in a flashback sequence of the war on Cybertron?

The "Every Legend Hides a Secret" poster from Transformers: The Last Knight news article has the wrong news story on it.