IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 Page 3 Art Process by Sara Pitre Durocher
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Jan 25, 2018 at 4:01am CST
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The pages mirrored below show artist Sara Pitre Durocher's process from layout and roughs to the final lineart - plus Joana Lafuente's colours and Tom B. Long's letters from the final verson - for the third page of the preview, featuring Damus / Glitch / Tarn and his old mentor Shockwave, and their conversation after the latter's liberation from Garrus-9. Check it out below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub!
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Comment by steve2275
Jan 25, 2018
cool sara
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Comment by Targetmaster Kup
Jan 25, 2018
I'm glad they are using her to get LL caught up to where it should be at!
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Comment by ScottyP
Jan 25, 2018
I say this as nicely as I can: it's time to move on. We're going on two years removed from that. Go back and look at Glitch, look at the context, and try to move onricemazter wrote:I find it incredibly silly that Roberts spent so much time misleading the audience that Tarn was Roller, only for him to look exactly like Roller without his mask.
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Comment by Diaboragon
Jan 25, 2018
Hol' up, Shockwave's comment about the 31 bots with him indicates that they're all on the list, including Flywheels. But when the DJD met the scavengers, Flywheels wasn't one of their targets.
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To each their own, I only bring it up because Tarn's maskless appearance reminds me of Roller and I find that observation amusing. You make it sound like I care much more than I actually do.
Comment by ricemazter
Jan 25, 2018
ScottyP wrote:I say this as nicely as I can: it's time to move on. We're going on two years removed from that. Go back and look at Glitch, look at the context, and try to move onricemazter wrote:I find it incredibly silly that Roberts spent so much time misleading the audience that Tarn was Roller, only for him to look exactly like Roller without his mask.
To each their own, I only bring it up because Tarn's maskless appearance reminds me of Roller and I find that observation amusing. You make it sound like I care much more than I actually do.
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As for his actual face, for some reason I always see a mix of Megatron and Starscream.
Comment by Rodimus Prime
Jan 25, 2018
He wasn't on the list at all, or was he just further down the line? Tarn is pretty adamant about working his way through the list in the proper order.Diaboragon wrote:Hol' up, Shockwave's comment about the 31 bots with him indicates that they're all on the list, including Flywheels. But when the DJD met the scavengers, Flywheels wasn't one of their targets.
As for his actual face, for some reason I always see a mix of Megatron and Starscream.
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I can see the starscream resemblance a little bit but it wouldn't of surprised me if they had said that glitch had work done to look like megs, in fact I'm surprised they didn't.
Comment by ZeroWolf
Jan 25, 2018
Rodimus Prime wrote:He wasn't on the list at all, or was he just further down the line? Tarn is pretty adamant about working his way through the list in the proper order.Diaboragon wrote:Hol' up, Shockwave's comment about the 31 bots with him indicates that they're all on the list, including Flywheels. But when the DJD met the scavengers, Flywheels wasn't one of their targets.
As for his actual face, for some reason I always see a mix of Megatron and Starscream.
I can see the starscream resemblance a little bit but it wouldn't of surprised me if they had said that glitch had work done to look like megs, in fact I'm surprised they didn't.
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I have an idea who you are talking about, but I'd like clarification before I discuss it.
Also, just saying, my remarks about how Scorponoks reveal in issue 9 was the high point of the book? Well, I'm glad we are going back to him. I am looking forward to his part in the story
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jan 25, 2018
Va'al wrote:(Added note: my biggest problem with the book, I'll admit, is one line of dialogue, towards the second part of the issue, about a specific relationship, and how I really do not like how and where, and regarding whom, it was deployed. I'll leave that for the discussion boards, though.)
I have an idea who you are talking about, but I'd like clarification before I discuss it.
Also, just saying, my remarks about how Scorponoks reveal in issue 9 was the high point of the book? Well, I'm glad we are going back to him. I am looking forward to his part in the story
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I thought Chromedome's comments were unfair, and pretty horrible as things go. But rereading from the beginning of MTMTE, I think I held Chromedome in too high of regard, and that situation with Cyclonus bothered me even with that in mind.
Comment by Tigertrack
Jan 25, 2018
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Va'al wrote:(Added note: my biggest problem with the book, I'll admit, is one line of dialogue, towards the second part of the issue, about a specific relationship, and how I really do not like how and where, and regarding whom, it was deployed. I'll leave that for the discussion boards, though.)
I have an idea who you are talking about, but I'd like clarification before I discuss it.
Also, just saying, my remarks about how Scorponoks reveal in issue 9 was the high point of the book? Well, I'm glad we are going back to him. I am looking forward to his part in the story
I thought Chromedome's comments were unfair, and pretty horrible as things go. But rereading from the beginning of MTMTE, I think I held Chromedome in too high of regard, and that situation with Cyclonus bothered me even with that in mind.
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Are we talking about what Cyclonus said about Chromedome and Rewind's relationship not being real or what Chromedome said about Cyclonus being jealous?
If it's the former Cyclonus has a really disturbing perspective on what relationships should be, and this issue puts his past interactions with Tailgate in a really creepy light.
This has definitely been the best issue of LL to date. It stumbles in not resolving anything except, maybe, one of the tangles plot threads while introducing at least three more that won't be resolved until later, but the character interactions were more interesting than they have been in a while and took priority over the plot. Hopefully, this is a return to form.
Comment by ricemazter
Jan 25, 2018
Tigertrack wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Va'al wrote:(Added note: my biggest problem with the book, I'll admit, is one line of dialogue, towards the second part of the issue, about a specific relationship, and how I really do not like how and where, and regarding whom, it was deployed. I'll leave that for the discussion boards, though.)
I have an idea who you are talking about, but I'd like clarification before I discuss it.
Also, just saying, my remarks about how Scorponoks reveal in issue 9 was the high point of the book? Well, I'm glad we are going back to him. I am looking forward to his part in the story
I thought Chromedome's comments were unfair, and pretty horrible as things go. But rereading from the beginning of MTMTE, I think I held Chromedome in too high of regard, and that situation with Cyclonus bothered me even with that in mind.
Are we talking about what Cyclonus said about Chromedome and Rewind's relationship not being real or what Chromedome said about Cyclonus being jealous?
If it's the former Cyclonus has a really disturbing perspective on what relationships should be, and this issue puts his past interactions with Tailgate in a really creepy light.
This has definitely been the best issue of LL to date. It stumbles in not resolving anything except, maybe, one of the tangles plot threads while introducing at least three more that won't be resolved until later, but the character interactions were more interesting than they have been in a while and took priority over the plot. Hopefully, this is a return to form.
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I think Chromedome is insensitive. Like the remarks he made about Rewind's altmode not having wheels, thinking it was okay to just climb inside Roller without asking (wether or not there was any canoodling in the back of his cab is up to the reader I suppose
) What he said to Cyclonus is a new low. Sure Cyclonus was rude too, but Chromedome should have conducted himself knowing that Cyclonus was absolutely devastated.
Comment by WreckerJack
Jan 25, 2018
Tigertrack wrote:I thought Chromedome's comments were unfair, and pretty horrible as things go. But rereading from the beginning of MTMTE, I think I held Chromedome in too high of regard, and that situation with Cyclonus bothered me even with that in mind.
I think Chromedome is insensitive. Like the remarks he made about Rewind's altmode not having wheels, thinking it was okay to just climb inside Roller without asking (wether or not there was any canoodling in the back of his cab is up to the reader I suppose
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Yeah, Cyclonus' comment to Chromedome was definitely.. iffy at best. Especially for a character that has been shown several times as not really shying away from abuse, towards himself or his partner/close ones.
I'm glad people are taking the same reading I had but in a much more positive stride! I really am!
Comment by Va'al
Jan 26, 2018
ricemazter wrote:Tigertrack wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Va'al wrote:(Added note: my biggest problem with the book, I'll admit, is one line of dialogue, towards the second part of the issue, about a specific relationship, and how I really do not like how and where, and regarding whom, it was deployed. I'll leave that for the discussion boards, though.)
I have an idea who you are talking about, but I'd like clarification before I discuss it.
Also, just saying, my remarks about how Scorponoks reveal in issue 9 was the high point of the book? Well, I'm glad we are going back to him. I am looking forward to his part in the story
I thought Chromedome's comments were unfair, and pretty horrible as things go. But rereading from the beginning of MTMTE, I think I held Chromedome in too high of regard, and that situation with Cyclonus bothered me even with that in mind.
Are we talking about what Cyclonus said about Chromedome and Rewind's relationship not being real or what Chromedome said about Cyclonus being jealous?
If it's the former Cyclonus has a really disturbing perspective on what relationships should be, and this issue puts his past interactions with Tailgate in a really creepy light.
Yeah, Cyclonus' comment to Chromedome was definitely.. iffy at best. Especially for a character that has been shown several times as not really shying away from abuse, towards himself or his partner/close ones.
This has definitely been the best issue of LL to date. It stumbles in not resolving anything except, maybe, one of the tangles plot threads while introducing at least three more that won't be resolved until later, but the character interactions were more interesting than they have been in a while and took priority over the plot. Hopefully, this is a return to form.
I'm glad people are taking the same reading I had but in a much more positive stride! I really am!
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Though I'm not glad that Tailgate might be dead, I think it's for the best that they're no longer together. The power dynamic between them was always lopsided in an uncomfortable way, and I don't think it's a coincidence that they broke up once the power shifted. Cyclonus really shouldn't be with anyone because of how volatile he is.
Comment by ricemazter
Jan 26, 2018
Va'al wrote:ricemazter wrote:Tigertrack wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Va'al wrote:(Added note: my biggest problem with the book, I'll admit, is one line of dialogue, towards the second part of the issue, about a specific relationship, and how I really do not like how and where, and regarding whom, it was deployed. I'll leave that for the discussion boards, though.)
I have an idea who you are talking about, but I'd like clarification before I discuss it.
Also, just saying, my remarks about how Scorponoks reveal in issue 9 was the high point of the book? Well, I'm glad we are going back to him. I am looking forward to his part in the story
I thought Chromedome's comments were unfair, and pretty horrible as things go. But rereading from the beginning of MTMTE, I think I held Chromedome in too high of regard, and that situation with Cyclonus bothered me even with that in mind.
Are we talking about what Cyclonus said about Chromedome and Rewind's relationship not being real or what Chromedome said about Cyclonus being jealous?
If it's the former Cyclonus has a really disturbing perspective on what relationships should be, and this issue puts his past interactions with Tailgate in a really creepy light.
Yeah, Cyclonus' comment to Chromedome was definitely.. iffy at best. Especially for a character that has been shown several times as not really shying away from abuse, towards himself or his partner/close ones.
Though I'm not glad that Tailgate might be dead, I think it's for the best that they're no longer together. The power dynamic between them was always lopsided in an uncomfortable way, and I don't think it's a coincidence that they broke up once the power shifted. Cyclonus really shouldn't be with anyone because of how volatile he is.
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Comment by not_a_bot
Jan 26, 2018
I felt the things both of them said were pretty much understandable, from their point of view.
Cyclonus is grieving and angry and pretty much blaming himself.
Chromedome had his partner pretty much skewered without reason right in front of his eyes, plus he does not know what happened to Tailgate yet - Whirl was the first to figure that one out - so from his point of view he too has a right to be angry, and he lashes out.
Cyclonus is grieving and angry and pretty much blaming himself.
Chromedome had his partner pretty much skewered without reason right in front of his eyes, plus he does not know what happened to Tailgate yet - Whirl was the first to figure that one out - so from his point of view he too has a right to be angry, and he lashes out.
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Comment by snavej
Jan 26, 2018
Tarn's 'speech power' won't hold against Shockwave, who is a master of electromagnetism and also extremely learned and experienced. He would have plenty of countermeasures against Tarn. He would know how to manipulate sound, especially when it is being transmitted via radio or similar.
Also, why is he using a hand-held 'phone when he has plenty of built-in communications equipment?!
Also, why is he using a hand-held 'phone when he has plenty of built-in communications equipment?!
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I get that, I do. But that line reveals more about himself and his attitude towards attachment than anything hurtful towards Chromedome. And that attitude is not very good.
Comment by Va'al
Jan 26, 2018
not_a_bot wrote:I felt the things both of them said were pretty much understandable, from their point of view.
Cyclonus is grieving and angry and pretty much blaming himself.
Chromedome had his partner pretty much skewered without reason right in front of his eyes, plus he does not know what happened to Tailgate yet - Whirl was the first to figure that one out - so from his point of view he too has a right to be angry, and he lashes out.
I get that, I do. But that line reveals more about himself and his attitude towards attachment than anything hurtful towards Chromedome. And that attitude is not very good.
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Comment by ScottyP
Jan 26, 2018
Va'al's review led me to figuring our the meaning behind "Threadbare Space", as referenced in Lost Light 1 by Drift (among other places)

When Red Alert picks up the Necrobot's cloak, which is giving a view into the Benzene cluster of space, the wordplay gives it away:

Fun stuff, I'm quite interested to see where all this leads. There's something serious going on in that part of space, presumably separate from Unicron things since we know he's going to show up around Elonia first.

When Red Alert picks up the Necrobot's cloak, which is giving a view into the Benzene cluster of space, the wordplay gives it away:

Fun stuff, I'm quite interested to see where all this leads. There's something serious going on in that part of space, presumably separate from Unicron things since we know he's going to show up around Elonia first.
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I really don't know how I feel about it. On the one hand, it's a super screwed up way of seeing a relationship. On the other, it's a really interesting development that recontextualizes everything having to do with Cyclonus and Tailgate in a way that makes a really dark kind of sense.
It's crazy when Whirl, the king of being abusive towards people he supposedly likes, is the closest to seeing the pairing for what it is.
I kind of hope Roberts runs with this idea. It's really twisted, but makes things much more interesting.
Comment by ricemazter
Jan 26, 2018
Va'al wrote:not_a_bot wrote:I felt the things both of them said were pretty much understandable, from their point of view.
Cyclonus is grieving and angry and pretty much blaming himself.
Chromedome had his partner pretty much skewered without reason right in front of his eyes, plus he does not know what happened to Tailgate yet - Whirl was the first to figure that one out - so from his point of view he too has a right to be angry, and he lashes out.
I get that, I do. But that line reveals more about himself and his attitude towards attachment than anything hurtful towards Chromedome. And that attitude is not very good.
I really don't know how I feel about it. On the one hand, it's a super screwed up way of seeing a relationship. On the other, it's a really interesting development that recontextualizes everything having to do with Cyclonus and Tailgate in a way that makes a really dark kind of sense.
It's crazy when Whirl, the king of being abusive towards people he supposedly likes, is the closest to seeing the pairing for what it is.
I kind of hope Roberts runs with this idea. It's really twisted, but makes things much more interesting.
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Whow, I totally missed that.
Well spotted!
Comment by not_a_bot
Jan 29, 2018
ScottyP wrote:Va'al's review led me to figuring our the meaning behind "Threadbare Space"
Whow, I totally missed that.
Well spotted!
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Comment by snavej
Jan 29, 2018
'Threadbare space' is right next to 'Foreshadowing space'! 


