Bumblevivisector wrote:cloudballoon wrote:Proabably some franchise fatigue have something to do with the slower start?
Some "fans" that can only accept a TF media in a narrowly defined "acceptable" way might also have hurt the box office?
Well, seeing as there was a TF movie in theaters last year, a lot of more casual fans probably find it odd that there's an origin movie so soon after, if they assume origin=reboot.
And to clarify, RotB is my third favorite live action TF film after AofE and Bee Movie, so please don't assume I'm implying its quality (averageness) was the problem. I think it is partly recent film frequency and not necessarily long-term franchise fatigue.
Oh no, I'm not targetting you specifically. I meant the casual general population might have the franchise fatigue that's hitting the Star Wars, MCU, DC, Ghostbusters franchises these few years. Likely for the reasons you said. Also, some might no longer be interested in TF anymore after AOE/TLK.
You got your bum in the theater, that's not the type of "fans" I was talking about. Those won't even go to see TF1 "on principle" because of their negative reception from the trailer(s) or their perceived plot points (eg. hating OP & Megs as "brothers" pre-war, believing Elita-1 a "woke girl-boss" without knowing the nuance, etc.) or whatever.
People have their valid/invalid resons to go see a movie or not. I respect that and rather not judge, I do like to analyse and try to understand their reasons though.
Even if TF1 is underperforming, I'm already very happy the TF movie-verse changed direction for the better(IMO, of course) by going with animation and rooted in Cybertron and not Earth (for now). Going with animation brings down the production cost and help with the TF movie franchise's longevity. I really hope whatever its final officebox numbers will be, it's enough to warrant sequels.
I'm terms of ranking, it's '86 as the "forever #1" because I'm biased towards trad hand drawn animation. BBM & '07 is kind of tied as #2 (objectively I think BBM is a better movie, but '07 started the modern TF movie franchise so that get the nostgalia/respect credit, so I go back and forth between betweem as the "best" of live-action films) and ROTB comes after. The other Bay don't really get much of a rewatch for me (I'd rather YouTube the action sequences than pull out the discs).