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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

wj88 wrote:Predacons Rising is a Movie too, no?

Theatrical release?

Maybe in select theatres, but it was made to be sold on DVD, like the DC Animated films. But in this now age of streaming, a theatrical release is meaningless. It's still a TF film made by a studio.

Though I don't see that nor animated beast Wars getting into the SS line.

LinaNui wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Makes me wanna see comparison shots of SS BB Soundwave with FOC Soundwave. He was a big Voyager too.

Here is all the soundwave figures (deluxe and up) that I have.

You should put SS Bee Soundwave and FoC Soundwave up front so he can see them.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's weird to think that in spite of the run time, this is the only other Transformers film. The Movie, Bayformers, BB and this BW2 movie.

The Beast Wars season 3 episode "Cutting Edge" was released as a theatrical film in Japan. It was extended with added footage from "Optimal Situation" to recap Optimus's "great transformation" to the viewers since that season hadn't aired on TV in Japan yet. It's the only Season 3 episode that was omitted from the Japanese DVD release of Beast Wars Metals since it's counted as a movie instead of an episode.

Same with "Bad Spark" being omitted from the Japanese DVDs since it too was released theatrically in Japan.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I didn't follow Prime, so I had no idea about Predacons Rising. A quick look on the wiki only mentions 'Hulu'. So I assume it wasn't released in cinemas. Which would mean BW2 counts more towards this line than it would.

Predacons Rising is something of a gray area. It was first released as a TV movie on the Hub, but eventually was added to the show's episode rerun rotation as Episodes 66, 67, and 68, split up into three parts.

This is basically the same thing that happened for Transformers Animated's two TV specials, "Transform and Roll Out" and "TransWarped", which both first aired as feature-length TV specials before being cut up into three-part episode form later.

Similarly, the first three episodes of Prime's third season aired in Singapore as a combined TV movie, but aired everywhere else in episode format.

Conversely, many of Prime's multi-part episodes were released on DVD in an edited-together format to present them as feature-length DVD movies: "Darkness Rising" went from five episodes to one movie, seven serialized episodes ("One Shall Fall", "One Shall Rise, Parts 1-3", and "Orion Pax, Parts 1-3") were combined into a movie called "One Shall Stand", and the first four episodes of season 3 (s "Darkmount, NV", "Scattered", "Prey", and "Rebellion") were combined into a movie called "Dawn of the Beast" (essentially what aired earlier in Singapore only without the fourth part, giving it a cliffhanger ending in that version).

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:It's weird to think that in spite of the run time, this is the only other Transformers film. The Movie, Bayformers, BB and this BW2 movie.

The Beast Wars season 3 episode "Cutting Edge" was released as a theatrical film in Japan. It was extended with added footage from "Optimal Situation" to recap Optimus's "great transformation" to the viewers since that season hadn't aired on TV in Japan yet. It's the only Season 3 episode that was omitted from the Japanese DVD release of Beast Wars Metals since it's counted as a movie instead of an episode.

Same with "Bad Spark" being omitted from the Japanese DVDs since it too was released theatrically in Japan.

If only Beast Wars had been given an actual movie. Imagine The Nemesis finale being reworked with a movie budget? We might have gotten to see the Coneheads appearance that Simon Furman envisioned.

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I didn't follow Prime, so I had no idea about Predacons Rising. A quick look on the wiki only mentions 'Hulu'. So I assume it wasn't released in cinemas. Which would mean BW2 counts more towards this line than it would.

Predacons Rising is something of a gray area. It was first released as a TV movie on the Hub, but eventually was added to the show's episode rerun rotation as Episodes 66, 67, and 68, split up into three parts.

This is basically the same thing that happened for Transformers Animated's two TV specials, "Transform and Roll Out" and "TransWarped", which both first aired as feature-length TV specials before being cut up into three-part episode form later.

Similarly, the first three episodes of Prime's third season aired in Singapore as a combined TV movie, but aired everywhere else in episode format.

Conversely, many of Prime's multi-part episodes were released on DVD in an edited-together format to present them as feature-length DVD movies: "Darkness Rising" went from five episodes to one movie, seven serialized episodes ("One Shall Fall", "One Shall Rise, Parts 1-3", and "Orion Pax, Parts 1-3") were combined into a movie called "One Shall Stand", and the first four episodes of season 3 (s "Darkmount, NV", "Scattered", "Prey", and "Rebellion") were combined into a movie called "Dawn of the Beast" (essentially what aired earlier in Singapore only without the fourth part, giving it a cliffhanger ending in that version).

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The precedent set so far for the Studio Series, theatrically released features, keeps it more black and white. Which is obviously academic, as neither PR nor BW2 have a chance of joining this line. As we've all already noted.

I just thought to add it once more to the conversation since BW2 is so radically different to the current output of the SS line. It could add some variety. Taken from the era that didn't keep forcing out a new Prime, BB, Ratchet etc into every new project.

I have friends that collect the SS line and I respect what has been achieved with these figures. While not for me. If they gave new versions of Spittor*, Iguanus* or the Gestalts produced at this level of quality. Then, I'd be interested.

**Diver and Crazybolt, respectively.

It's sad to think I haven't seen toy shelves like that in years.

Cyber Bishop wrote:One of the guys in our line chat group found ravage and shockwave yesterday at a Wal Mart in Harvey Louisiana.

I picked them up (Online via Kapow) for a friend who is collecting the Core Class. I misread the description and thought they were '86 SS

Just found Shockwave & Ravage today in a Virginia Walmart... looked to have several in stock

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

Exactly. TF:TM was split into 5 parts in 1988/89 and shown with other episodes in the puppet prime reruns. That dosen't make it any less of movie. Same for Predacons Rising.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

Exactly. TF:TM was split into 5 parts in 1988/89 and shown with other episodes in the puppet prime reruns. That dosen't make it any less of movie. Same for Predacons Rising.

I'll give you that, but there is a bit of a difference in feel of production value between theatrical releases and "made-for-TV" or "straight-to-DVD": the latter category is notorious for lackluster sequels of successful theatrical movies, plus the lower budget really shows.

o.supreme wrote:True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.