Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Stop Motion Promotion Part II
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Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 17, 2016
Many perfectly fine boxes were sacrificed in the making of this video. 

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He destroyed Victorion's own box
But really, this guy makes amazing videos
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Sep 17, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:Many perfectly fine boxes were sacrificed in the making of this video.
He destroyed Victorion's own box

But really, this guy makes amazing videos
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Comment by Kurona
Sep 17, 2016
That was fraggin' awesome. Tied with Megatron for the best thing to come out of this series.
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I forgot about this game until I saw this. I just ordered it, looks awesome!
Comment by padfoo
Sep 17, 2016
SillySpringer wrote:Kurona wrote:SillySpringer wrote:Ya know, I just realized. What recent Transformers thing has way better combiner sequences than this, and should be more fit to be called Combiner Wars?
Combiner Wars doesn't even have ONE combining sequence so far other than Starscream's stupid merge with all the combiners to become the screaming head.
It was, in part, an advertisement for Combiner Wars (Devastator, the aesthetic and very existence of Motormaster and Menasor, the three Autobot Combiners at the end)... so yeah, I could totally buy that.
Goddamn do I want it.
I'm the type that enjoys watching others play games on Youtube. That's what I did with Devastation since I couldn't get it. (Don't have a console for it.) Even though that game had so many cliches, it was way better than Combiner Wars' story since it was supposed to be like an update of G1's theme, and it made me so much more giddy. Transformers Devastation did a better job at making me want the toys than Combiner Wars even could. I suppose one thing that made the Devastation game so great was all the returning voice actors, whereas Combiner Wars has mostly replacements.
I forgot about this game until I saw this. I just ordered it, looks awesome!
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they had no chance
Comment by steve2275
Sep 18, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:Many perfectly fine boxes were sacrificed in the making of this video.
they had no chance
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Comment by King Kuuga
Sep 18, 2016
This 3 minute video features more combiner warring than the entire Machinima series so far.
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Comment by ausbot
Sep 18, 2016
Sadly that was better than the show.
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Agreed. That was actually very nicely done.
Comment by Tyrannacon
Sep 18, 2016
Kurona wrote:That was fraggin' awesome. Tied with Megatron for the best thing to come out of this series.
Agreed. That was actually very nicely done.
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Comment by Tyrannacon
Sep 20, 2016
Figured I'd clue everybody in, go90 posted their Combiner Wars finale:
https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_45cf3a ... 9362d51692
It's two minutes longer than the other parts at least.
https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_45cf3a ... 9362d51692
It's two minutes longer than the other parts at least.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 20, 2016
And with that, the abomination that is Machinima's Combiner Wars comes to its long-awaited end. And BOY was it terrible.
Remember that scene in ROTF where Sam "dies", goes to the Transformer afterlife, gets "wisdom" from the Primes, and comes back to life? Remember how so many critics, both official and on YouTube, felt so royally confused by that scene because of how it far out of nowhere it seemed to come? I now know how those people all felt by that scene as Windblade goes though almost the exact same ordeal here.
What's more is that this scene brings in yet another deus ex machina at the 11th hour: Metroplex. No formal introduction, no build up, no explanation of who or what he is to the common uneducated viewer. Just comes in clear out of nowhere and not only brings Windblade back to life but also just serves to solve everything in one fell swoop.
Though, this scene also attempts to try to finally tell us (or at least hint at) what a Cityspeaker is, but... too little too late, guys. Seriously, don't wait for the very end before telling us something like that.
Plus, Windblade now claims that she wants to save Cybertron and is desperate to do so. But she NEVER went through any kind of believable development for her to have such a change of heart. It just came off as just as forced and contrived as Metroplex's sudden appearance did.
And now we'll never really know Starscream's true motive was since he was apparently killed during all this. By all appearances, it looks as though he really did just regress from his interesting reformed persona back to his uninspired, stagnated, backstabbing persona for no other reason than for a GEEWUN-based attempt to shock the audience. Blah.
Victorion got a little more dialogue in this one and then shoved the Enigma into her chest like it was some kind of Matrix. And no, I don't mean she opened her chest and put it into a chamber, she literally just took the thing and pushed it through her armor plating to force it inside her. But in the long run, Victorion was completely wasted and had no business being in this show at all.
So too were the Combiners themselves, really. They were barely even in this show, despite their being the titular characters! And once again, the Combiners are referred to as a people of their own. What do they mean by this? Who knows? It's yet another concept introduced by this show that goes completely unexplored.
And then at the end we get a tacked-on cliffhanger foreshadowing to Titans Return, with a quick cameo by Fort Max whose eyes flash from blue to red. No. Oh please, no. No more of this, Machinima! Please don't give us another round of this with Titans Return! I beg of you. We've suffered enough!
The only, ONLY cool thing about this was Cy-kill, er, I mean Megatron. He was true to form in this just as he's been ever since he came into this show, and here we saw him as a triple-changer with a Space Gun Mode of his own (in addition to his robot and tank modes) that Optimus used to blast the screaming star Starscream into oblivion.
But really, this show was a wreck. A complete and utter train wreck fueled by bad writing and terrible characterization (Megation aside). And that ending with Metroplex was so badly forced that it might as well have been Primus himself come to deliver divine punishment to Starscream and save everyone in an instant.
Honestly, folks, if you want to experience a G1 story written for an older, nostalgic crowd that not only pays respect to the past, but is does some really cool stuff and is very well written and well designed overall, AND features Optimus and Megatron teaming up to fight a super-powered Starscream whose plan was far more competently executed and made worlds of sense, then I HIGHLY recommend that you ignore this abysmal show and instead check out Naoto Tsushima's 4-part manga story Transformers: The Battle of the Star Gate. It has beautiful artwork, great-written characters, tons of emotion and drama, a superbly-written take on the G1 cartoon Starscream, and lots of cool action scenes that completely enhance and enrich the story as it progresses. Machinima's Combiner Wars can only wish that it was that good.
All in all, this show was a near-complete failure, with Megatron as its sole saving grace that still isn't enough to redeem the show as a whole.
Congratulations, Combiner Wars, you are officially a worse show than Transformers: Energon.
Remember that scene in ROTF where Sam "dies", goes to the Transformer afterlife, gets "wisdom" from the Primes, and comes back to life? Remember how so many critics, both official and on YouTube, felt so royally confused by that scene because of how it far out of nowhere it seemed to come? I now know how those people all felt by that scene as Windblade goes though almost the exact same ordeal here.
What's more is that this scene brings in yet another deus ex machina at the 11th hour: Metroplex. No formal introduction, no build up, no explanation of who or what he is to the common uneducated viewer. Just comes in clear out of nowhere and not only brings Windblade back to life but also just serves to solve everything in one fell swoop.
Though, this scene also attempts to try to finally tell us (or at least hint at) what a Cityspeaker is, but... too little too late, guys. Seriously, don't wait for the very end before telling us something like that.
Plus, Windblade now claims that she wants to save Cybertron and is desperate to do so. But she NEVER went through any kind of believable development for her to have such a change of heart. It just came off as just as forced and contrived as Metroplex's sudden appearance did.
And now we'll never really know Starscream's true motive was since he was apparently killed during all this. By all appearances, it looks as though he really did just regress from his interesting reformed persona back to his uninspired, stagnated, backstabbing persona for no other reason than for a GEEWUN-based attempt to shock the audience. Blah.
Victorion got a little more dialogue in this one and then shoved the Enigma into her chest like it was some kind of Matrix. And no, I don't mean she opened her chest and put it into a chamber, she literally just took the thing and pushed it through her armor plating to force it inside her. But in the long run, Victorion was completely wasted and had no business being in this show at all.
So too were the Combiners themselves, really. They were barely even in this show, despite their being the titular characters! And once again, the Combiners are referred to as a people of their own. What do they mean by this? Who knows? It's yet another concept introduced by this show that goes completely unexplored.
And then at the end we get a tacked-on cliffhanger foreshadowing to Titans Return, with a quick cameo by Fort Max whose eyes flash from blue to red. No. Oh please, no. No more of this, Machinima! Please don't give us another round of this with Titans Return! I beg of you. We've suffered enough!
The only, ONLY cool thing about this was Cy-kill, er, I mean Megatron. He was true to form in this just as he's been ever since he came into this show, and here we saw him as a triple-changer with a Space Gun Mode of his own (in addition to his robot and tank modes) that Optimus used to blast the screaming star Starscream into oblivion.
But really, this show was a wreck. A complete and utter train wreck fueled by bad writing and terrible characterization (Megation aside). And that ending with Metroplex was so badly forced that it might as well have been Primus himself come to deliver divine punishment to Starscream and save everyone in an instant.
Honestly, folks, if you want to experience a G1 story written for an older, nostalgic crowd that not only pays respect to the past, but is does some really cool stuff and is very well written and well designed overall, AND features Optimus and Megatron teaming up to fight a super-powered Starscream whose plan was far more competently executed and made worlds of sense, then I HIGHLY recommend that you ignore this abysmal show and instead check out Naoto Tsushima's 4-part manga story Transformers: The Battle of the Star Gate. It has beautiful artwork, great-written characters, tons of emotion and drama, a superbly-written take on the G1 cartoon Starscream, and lots of cool action scenes that completely enhance and enrich the story as it progresses. Machinima's Combiner Wars can only wish that it was that good.
All in all, this show was a near-complete failure, with Megatron as its sole saving grace that still isn't enough to redeem the show as a whole.
Congratulations, Combiner Wars, you are officially a worse show than Transformers: Energon.
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Comment by o.supreme
Sep 20, 2016
OK...it is here...finally...the end. (or is it?)
Yeah, that wasn't really hard to predict. So Windblade death=Metroplex awakening, guess they should have killed her much earlier on
(Sorry IMHO Optimus Prime calling forth a Titan such as in FoC , or even in the recent IDW comic was much better). Also this kind of reminded me of Sam's death in RotF...Starscream is still, screaming, in fact he sounds like Chris Lloyd as Judge Doom in his death scene from Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
So apparently machinima didn't have the budget to animate a full Titan, so we get just an arm...ok...and the Combiners are apparently all alive & well now.
Wow..and now how is the Titan that just saved everyone a "Bigger Problem" ? I'm pretty sure fan reaction wont let a sequel (Titans Return) get made, at least not by Machimina again. I think the saddest part about all this is that the folks that made this (I mean those that wriote the script) are proud of it. This does not have the "Feel" of the original series at all..in fact I really cant compare it to anything...Maybe the Japanese PS2 game The Transformers: Call of the Future, but I actually liked that story (such as it was)...and I cant say I really liked anything about this series. I'll be the first to say I was 100% dead absolutely positively wrong -WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. I had such high hopes for this series, it was nothing like what I had envisioned. The problem is...I don't even know who to blame.
Hasbro-for going cheap, for not having the courage to end this project if they saw it was not developing well? Machimina -For actually thinking this was good story telling? I don't know...just kind of rambling/ranting right now...hopefully I'll have something more coherent later in the day
o.supreme wrote:I'm guessing/hoping for Metroplex, or some Titan,Sabrblade wrote:this deep disembodied voice who told her "Don't... let this happen." Who said that?! And why was this a thing? It's never brought up again in the episode, nor even really acknowledged that much by Windblade when she hears it. It was just really weird.
Yeah, that wasn't really hard to predict. So Windblade death=Metroplex awakening, guess they should have killed her much earlier on

So apparently machinima didn't have the budget to animate a full Titan, so we get just an arm...ok...and the Combiners are apparently all alive & well now.
Wow..and now how is the Titan that just saved everyone a "Bigger Problem" ? I'm pretty sure fan reaction wont let a sequel (Titans Return) get made, at least not by Machimina again. I think the saddest part about all this is that the folks that made this (I mean those that wriote the script) are proud of it. This does not have the "Feel" of the original series at all..in fact I really cant compare it to anything...Maybe the Japanese PS2 game The Transformers: Call of the Future, but I actually liked that story (such as it was)...and I cant say I really liked anything about this series. I'll be the first to say I was 100% dead absolutely positively wrong -WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. I had such high hopes for this series, it was nothing like what I had envisioned. The problem is...I don't even know who to blame.
Hasbro-for going cheap, for not having the courage to end this project if they saw it was not developing well? Machimina -For actually thinking this was good story telling? I don't know...just kind of rambling/ranting right now...hopefully I'll have something more coherent later in the day
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I do agree with Megatron being the sole saving grace in this case, but it wasn't definitely enough. I admit I was wrong about my initial assessments, I was hoping the "crappiness" was just a symptom of the 5-minute run time of the episodes, but sadly it did end up being just a case of mediocre to bad story telling and that's unfortunate because of what it was billed as and the potential it had started with and even developed due to the preludes.
Though I've only seen an episode or two of Energon so I can't really compare that. This simply wasn't the best though and I'd say a train wreck in a lot of ways. I could only hope they improve if they go to make more, but I'm totally hesitant in the regard of them making any additional iterations or supplements to this series. A lot would need to change and happen.
Comment by Tyrannacon
Sep 20, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:All in all, this show was a near-complete failure, with Megatron as its sole saving grace that still isn't enough to redeem the show as a whole.
Congratulations, Combiner Wars, you are officially a worse show than Transformers: Energon.
I do agree with Megatron being the sole saving grace in this case, but it wasn't definitely enough. I admit I was wrong about my initial assessments, I was hoping the "crappiness" was just a symptom of the 5-minute run time of the episodes, but sadly it did end up being just a case of mediocre to bad story telling and that's unfortunate because of what it was billed as and the potential it had started with and even developed due to the preludes.
Though I've only seen an episode or two of Energon so I can't really compare that. This simply wasn't the best though and I'd say a train wreck in a lot of ways. I could only hope they improve if they go to make more, but I'm totally hesitant in the regard of them making any additional iterations or supplements to this series. A lot would need to change and happen.
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Comment by Sigma Magnus
Sep 20, 2016
Well...that's it, then. I'm not really sure if I'm happy it's over, dreading Titans Return if they make it, or waiting to see how badly they screw that up too.
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Comment by Hellscream9999
Sep 20, 2016
Fellow Seibertronians, Transformers Combiner Wars animated series finale is finally here, the episode entitled S1:E8 Destructions Dawn can be viewed on the go90 site for US viewers. So now that the show is finally complete, what are your final thoughts on the series? Let us know what you think in the comments below.
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Comment by karyuudo
Sep 20, 2016
After seeing this show in its entirety, I have mixed feelings. While I wouldn't say this is the worst Transformer production (Robot Masters takes that IMO), it definitely could have used a longer run time, and more dialogue to flesh the story out a lot more. Megatron (I think almost everyone agrees) stands out the most awesome character in this series. I'd love to see more of him in this manner in a future production.
As for the Combiners, I get the feeling that they're basically another race of TF in this continuity, and nothing more than drones in pieces until they merge into their combined mode. I honestly didn't like this point at all since it does remind me of TF Superlink and how they handled combiners.
I think this show had some good ideas in terms of bringing back that G1 type of look, but just poorly executed in terms of frame rate issues, and some sub-par acting by several of the voice cast.
I also didn't understand as to why and what the combiners were fighting for. And why when Windblade brings them the Engima, they don't fight for it like and just let Victorian shove it in her chest. It just seems that there should have been more story here to fill in the gaps, yet was cut due to budget constraints.
Hopefully Hasbro / Machinima will take the constructive feedback and consider doing a production with more money / time involved to plan out and execute a story that everyone can enjoy.
As for the Combiners, I get the feeling that they're basically another race of TF in this continuity, and nothing more than drones in pieces until they merge into their combined mode. I honestly didn't like this point at all since it does remind me of TF Superlink and how they handled combiners.
I think this show had some good ideas in terms of bringing back that G1 type of look, but just poorly executed in terms of frame rate issues, and some sub-par acting by several of the voice cast.
I also didn't understand as to why and what the combiners were fighting for. And why when Windblade brings them the Engima, they don't fight for it like and just let Victorian shove it in her chest. It just seems that there should have been more story here to fill in the gaps, yet was cut due to budget constraints.
Hopefully Hasbro / Machinima will take the constructive feedback and consider doing a production with more money / time involved to plan out and execute a story that everyone can enjoy.
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Comment by Randomhero
Sep 20, 2016
Well that was an ending....I guess? Didn't actually have a plot and Starscream didn't really seem to have a plan. He was already a leader on Cybertron and I guess his goal was to become powerful?
I still think Energon is worse.
I still think Energon is worse.
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Comment by Dude Gatsby
Sep 20, 2016
It would never happen, but if they are going to do short episodes they should just make it a comedy/skit type of thing. Something like an animated version of the "Swerve tells a story" video.
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Doesn't need to be a comedy to be short. Past few seasons of RedvsBlue has had some very serious depressing plots with certain episodes only lasting 5-10 minutes.
Comment by Randomhero
Sep 20, 2016
Dude Gatsby wrote:It would never happen, but if they are going to do short episodes they should just make it a comedy/skit type of thing. Something like an animated version of the "Swerve tells a story" video.
Doesn't need to be a comedy to be short. Past few seasons of RedvsBlue has had some very serious depressing plots with certain episodes only lasting 5-10 minutes.
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That's true. Maybe just an anthology sort of thing would work. They could focus on one character at a time, but not need to worry about making a story with every character in the current line.
Comment by Dude Gatsby
Sep 20, 2016
Randomhero wrote:Dude Gatsby wrote:It would never happen, but if they are going to do short episodes they should just make it a comedy/skit type of thing. Something like an animated version of the "Swerve tells a story" video.
Doesn't need to be a comedy to be short. Past few seasons of RedvsBlue has had some very serious depressing plots with certain episodes only lasting 5-10 minutes.
That's true. Maybe just an anthology sort of thing would work. They could focus on one character at a time, but not need to worry about making a story with every character in the current line.
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Comment by Kurona
Sep 20, 2016
Haven't watched the episode yet (I'm in way too happy a mood right now to let this kill it), but just popping in to say I at least love the idea of Megatron being a tank/gun triple changer... and would also very much be in favour of an Anthology series, maybe even focusing on different continuities 
