Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron
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It's that time again. There are two different Computron's to choose from and the struggle is real, so Seibertron is here to help. Read on to hear this (one man's) opinions!
Let's begin with Scattershot, all... three of them? That's right, there was an anomolyous Voyager Scattershot released separately the Combiner Wars line that really wasn't suitable for, well, anything. It has a decent enough alt mode and sporting some remolding, but the uninspiring deco making him seem like a dry run for the real thing. The version we see with the Hasbro Collection Pack might be the same remold (torso mode being a complete repaint of Superion) but he at least has much better color choices, and I love the sticker inspired tampographs. Enter Takara's rendition, the color choices are superb and the retooling extends beyond what Hasbro did, plus having some new unique guns. Have a look at the three in both modes, and as torso's. And just for fun, also see Betatron in all his... glory?
Afterburner really bugs me. Both of them. In my opinion not enough was changed from the previous user of the mold (Groove) and that windshield kibble could be made a ton better with a simple swivel joint. My gripes aside, both Hasbro and Takara do a commendable job in in their color schemes. With Takara stereotypically going all out on cartoon accuracy with the red, and Hasbro going toy/Marvel Comics accurate. you can't go wrong with either. Fun side note: these two are completely the same mold wise, making them the only shared figures between the two sets.
Lightspeed isn't as cut and dry as you might think. I'd say Hasbro 'Speed is the weakest of both sets, but he's not terrible. It's my favorite car mold from the line, and a repaint of my favorite iteration (Streetwise). And while Takara's Wheeljackremold is more suiting, it just happens to be least favorite CW car. That said, his sharp reds and brilliant new head sculpt elevates this hated mold to loving new heights.
Strafe is a great addition on both sides of the fence. Hasbro's Strafe is a simpler retool when compared to Takara's, but that shouldn't take away from the experience. Hasbro Strafe steals his duds from Air Raid, which again, is a a favorite of mine. So right off the bat, I like the figure and his remolding/new head impress me. Two negatives though, he has no gun (but can borrow one of Afterburners) and he's off-white. Takara's snow white is simply stunning, but I have issues with the Blast-Off mold (QC wise). They aren't as bad, but still present. Namely the head popping off, but he is oh so pretty *bats eyelashes*.
The Nosecones are vastly set apart by using completely different molds, and color schemes. Hasbro's uses the Brawl mold with tooling from the Botcon 2016 Ramhorn (namely the drill, as he keeps Brawl's head). If you haven't made peace with this mold by now, then you never will (and you''l have a rough time with Liokaiser). But I honestly don't mind him, and prefer the darker brown coloring ala G1 toy. On the flip side, Takara decided to go with the Rook mold by slapping some treads on him, along with a drill and new noggin. He looks great and comes with a small arsenal, making his play options plentiful. One thing I don't like however, is the stick on his back. It reminds me of a flagpole, and he should be flying some kind of banner. I just wish it had been more collapsible is all.
UW Computron scores big points for something people might dislike or not even think twice about: the combined gun. I really appreciate Takara's efforts there and wish they had done the same for Bruticus. The new head and chest plate, along with the beautiful streamlined color choices make him absolutely awe inspiring.
CW Computron hit's me the same way the G2 Combiners do. He's just funky and fun! If you want your Computron to be colored like the ones you had as a kid, this is the set for you. Even with no alteration, I love the torso. The pinkish chest and tampographs I mentioned earlier look fantastic. Not to mention the brand new hands a feet, they look and work brilliantly.
Also, there's lots of scramblin' drill hand'ing fun to be had with both sets!
Bonus Round!
Scrounge and Cybaxx, talk about niche! A tragic story from the G1 Marvel glory days, and present once again in IDW, this is the first time he's been immortalized in plastic. The mold choice (Legends Class Cosmos) is about as fitting as can be, and a new proper new head to boot. And his pal Cybaxx is supposed to represent his "special arm". The 7 Scrounge diehards out there ought to be pretty happy with this!
So how do they compare? Takara put a great deal of effort into their Computron, and the sheer amount of retooling, remolding, and repainting certainly give it the edge. If you value cartoon accuracy and don't mind paying a few extra bucks, then he's your bot. But Hasbro's Collection Pack is great in his own regards. Unique Strafe, a seemingly more crowd pleasing orange Afterburner, awesome new hands and feet, and not to mention Scrounge(!), something so obscure you'd only expect to find it in an expensive Botcon set. If I had to choose, I would go Unite Warriors, but only for combined mode. As separate figures, I actually prefer the Combiner Wars Collection Pack. Good thing I don't have to choose, because I'm quite happy having both! Also, MVP's of the two sets for me are: UW Lightspeed, and CW Strafe.
Were you on the fence? did you decide months ago before the release of either? What are your thoughts with the set you chose? Join us in the Pub and let us know!
Let's begin with Scattershot, all... three of them? That's right, there was an anomolyous Voyager Scattershot released separately the Combiner Wars line that really wasn't suitable for, well, anything. It has a decent enough alt mode and sporting some remolding, but the uninspiring deco making him seem like a dry run for the real thing. The version we see with the Hasbro Collection Pack might be the same remold (torso mode being a complete repaint of Superion) but he at least has much better color choices, and I love the sticker inspired tampographs. Enter Takara's rendition, the color choices are superb and the retooling extends beyond what Hasbro did, plus having some new unique guns. Have a look at the three in both modes, and as torso's. And just for fun, also see Betatron in all his... glory?
Afterburner really bugs me. Both of them. In my opinion not enough was changed from the previous user of the mold (Groove) and that windshield kibble could be made a ton better with a simple swivel joint. My gripes aside, both Hasbro and Takara do a commendable job in in their color schemes. With Takara stereotypically going all out on cartoon accuracy with the red, and Hasbro going toy/Marvel Comics accurate. you can't go wrong with either. Fun side note: these two are completely the same mold wise, making them the only shared figures between the two sets.
Lightspeed isn't as cut and dry as you might think. I'd say Hasbro 'Speed is the weakest of both sets, but he's not terrible. It's my favorite car mold from the line, and a repaint of my favorite iteration (Streetwise). And while Takara's Wheeljackremold is more suiting, it just happens to be least favorite CW car. That said, his sharp reds and brilliant new head sculpt elevates this hated mold to loving new heights.
Strafe is a great addition on both sides of the fence. Hasbro's Strafe is a simpler retool when compared to Takara's, but that shouldn't take away from the experience. Hasbro Strafe steals his duds from Air Raid, which again, is a a favorite of mine. So right off the bat, I like the figure and his remolding/new head impress me. Two negatives though, he has no gun (but can borrow one of Afterburners) and he's off-white. Takara's snow white is simply stunning, but I have issues with the Blast-Off mold (QC wise). They aren't as bad, but still present. Namely the head popping off, but he is oh so pretty *bats eyelashes*.
The Nosecones are vastly set apart by using completely different molds, and color schemes. Hasbro's uses the Brawl mold with tooling from the Botcon 2016 Ramhorn (namely the drill, as he keeps Brawl's head). If you haven't made peace with this mold by now, then you never will (and you''l have a rough time with Liokaiser). But I honestly don't mind him, and prefer the darker brown coloring ala G1 toy. On the flip side, Takara decided to go with the Rook mold by slapping some treads on him, along with a drill and new noggin. He looks great and comes with a small arsenal, making his play options plentiful. One thing I don't like however, is the stick on his back. It reminds me of a flagpole, and he should be flying some kind of banner. I just wish it had been more collapsible is all.
UW Computron scores big points for something people might dislike or not even think twice about: the combined gun. I really appreciate Takara's efforts there and wish they had done the same for Bruticus. The new head and chest plate, along with the beautiful streamlined color choices make him absolutely awe inspiring.
CW Computron hit's me the same way the G2 Combiners do. He's just funky and fun! If you want your Computron to be colored like the ones you had as a kid, this is the set for you. Even with no alteration, I love the torso. The pinkish chest and tampographs I mentioned earlier look fantastic. Not to mention the brand new hands a feet, they look and work brilliantly.
Also, there's lots of scramblin' drill hand'ing fun to be had with both sets!
Bonus Round!
Scrounge and Cybaxx, talk about niche! A tragic story from the G1 Marvel glory days, and present once again in IDW, this is the first time he's been immortalized in plastic. The mold choice (Legends Class Cosmos) is about as fitting as can be, and a new proper new head to boot. And his pal Cybaxx is supposed to represent his "special arm". The 7 Scrounge diehards out there ought to be pretty happy with this!
So how do they compare? Takara put a great deal of effort into their Computron, and the sheer amount of retooling, remolding, and repainting certainly give it the edge. If you value cartoon accuracy and don't mind paying a few extra bucks, then he's your bot. But Hasbro's Collection Pack is great in his own regards. Unique Strafe, a seemingly more crowd pleasing orange Afterburner, awesome new hands and feet, and not to mention Scrounge(!), something so obscure you'd only expect to find it in an expensive Botcon set. If I had to choose, I would go Unite Warriors, but only for combined mode. As separate figures, I actually prefer the Combiner Wars Collection Pack. Good thing I don't have to choose, because I'm quite happy having both! Also, MVP's of the two sets for me are: UW Lightspeed, and CW Strafe.
Were you on the fence? did you decide months ago before the release of either? What are your thoughts with the set you chose? Join us in the Pub and let us know!
Credit(s): shajaki@Seibertron
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Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826017)
Posted by Kurona on September 18th, 2016 @ 7:45pm CDT
This part confused me; Scrounge hasn't been in IDW beyond a few background cameos.
Otherwise, great review. Pretty much nailed it
Posted by Kurona on September 18th, 2016 @ 7:45pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Bonus Round!
Scrounge and Cybaxx, talk about niche! A tragic story from the G1 Marvel glory days, and present once again in IDW
This part confused me; Scrounge hasn't been in IDW beyond a few background cameos.
Otherwise, great review. Pretty much nailed it
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826018)
Posted by shajaki on September 18th, 2016 @ 7:50pm CDT
Thanks!
Posted by shajaki on September 18th, 2016 @ 7:50pm CDT
My IDW knowledge is severely lacking, but I read on Wiki that he was present. So technically, background or not, I'm still rightKurona wrote:This part confused me; Scrounge hasn't been in IDW beyond a few background cameos.shajaki wrote:Bonus Round!
Scrounge and Cybaxx, talk about niche! A tragic story from the G1 Marvel glory days, and present once again in IDW
Otherwise, great review. Pretty much nailed it
Thanks!
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826019)
Posted by RevTibe on September 18th, 2016 @ 7:59pm CDT
Posted by RevTibe on September 18th, 2016 @ 7:59pm CDT
Thanks for the side-by-side. Often times both Hasbro and Takara releases have their own individual merits, but I don't think they've ever been as apples&oranges as Computron!
shajaki wrote:My IDW knowledge is severely lacking, but I read on Wiki that he was present. So technically, background or not, I'm still right
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826022)
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on September 18th, 2016 @ 8:11pm CDT
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on September 18th, 2016 @ 8:11pm CDT
I think they're both cool combiners. In order for Hasbro to get me to buy CW Computron, I would've at liked them to change the head sculpts on Lightspeed, Nosecone, and Computron.
As a result, I bought UW Computron. Like UW Bruticus, I think it's a fantastic set. The changes to the molds of each of the figures really make them individual characters in my collection.
As a result, I bought UW Computron. Like UW Bruticus, I think it's a fantastic set. The changes to the molds of each of the figures really make them individual characters in my collection.
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826025)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 18th, 2016 @ 8:24pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 18th, 2016 @ 8:24pm CDT
Very awesome review Shajaki! I do wish Hasbro had gone that little extra step with the heads. That would have got me that set for sure. But they all still look really cool. I hope to maybe get one of each someday
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826044)
Posted by shajaki on September 18th, 2016 @ 9:56pm CDT
) but the UW set is the perfect Compy for those who want the most diverse version possible.
Posted by shajaki on September 18th, 2016 @ 9:56pm CDT
Very true. Apples and bananas evenRevTibe wrote:I don't think they've ever been as apples&oranges as Computron!
And see, I even made a thread about my distaste for the rampant mold reuse of the line. I've gotten over it (obviouslyBATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:The changes to the molds of each of the figures really make them individual characters in my collection.
) but the UW set is the perfect Compy for those who want the most diverse version possible.I'd suggest going for UW first. He seems pretttttyyyy popularD-Maximus_Primal wrote:Very awesome review Shajaki! I do wish Hasbro had gone that little extra step with the heads. That would have got me that set for sure. But they all still look really cool. I hope to maybe get one of each someday
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826051)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 18th, 2016 @ 10:16pm CDT
Still waiting on my TFsource pre-order dude. and hoping Computron goes the way of the G2 sets
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 18th, 2016 @ 10:16pm CDT
shajaki wrote:I'd suggest going for UW first. He seems pretttttyyyy popularD-Maximus_Primal wrote:Very awesome review Shajaki! I do wish Hasbro had gone that little extra step with the heads. That would have got me that set for sure. But they all still look really cool. I hope to maybe get one of each someday
Still waiting on my TFsource pre-order dude. and hoping Computron goes the way of the G2 sets
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826053)
Posted by ScottyP on September 18th, 2016 @ 10:19pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on September 18th, 2016 @ 10:19pm CDT
You know, guns aside, I like the Hasbro Afterburner more. Other than that (and the hands/feet), the UW version is far superior.
Ultimately I'm glad I got both. They really feel like different sets of toys that happen to have very similar torso bots.
Ultimately I'm glad I got both. They really feel like different sets of toys that happen to have very similar torso bots.
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826055)
Posted by RiddlerJ on September 18th, 2016 @ 10:24pm CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on September 18th, 2016 @ 10:24pm CDT
Alas, I bought the original Voyager Scattershot 
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826062)
Posted by Terrsolpix on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:07am CDT
Posted by Terrsolpix on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:07am CDT
Since I won't be getting a CW Computron unless he goes on sale for $30, is it possible to attach Scrounge and Cybaxx as a shield on the Staffe arm? If you haven't already I dare you to combine all the UW weapons into something out of an over the top anime.
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826064)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:26am CDT
Technically, he can't: UW Strafe doesn't have a dedicated 5mm peg on top of his cockpit, only the CW version does.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:26am CDT
Terrsolpix wrote:Since I won't be getting a CW Computron unless he goes on sale for $30, is it possible to attach Scrounge and Cybaxx as a shield on the Staffe arm?
Technically, he can't: UW Strafe doesn't have a dedicated 5mm peg on top of his cockpit, only the CW version does.
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826065)
Posted by adamage1 on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:37am CDT
Posted by adamage1 on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:37am CDT
I spent about the same amount of money one would for the Unite Warriors set to get the Combiner Wars set plus the Perfect Effect PC-11 addon kit, which led to a very G1 toy-looking combiner as a result. I am quite amazed at how much the PE kit changes the look of the set.
Full album of photos: http://imgur.com/a/DwF4I
Full album of photos: http://imgur.com/a/DwF4I
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826066)
Posted by RNSrobot on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:50am CDT
Posted by RNSrobot on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:50am CDT
No matter how many positive reviews of CW Computron I read, he looks like a red Superion no matter what.
Anyway, extremely happy with UW.
Anyway, extremely happy with UW.
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826067)
Posted by Burn on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:52am CDT
Posted by Burn on September 19th, 2016 @ 12:52am CDT
I got both with the full intent of mixing things around.
So for me, the best combination was all UW figures EXCEPT Afterburner, swapping him with his CW version, plus the CW hands/feet.
For me, CW Afterburners colours help break up a predominantly red combined figure.
So for me, the best combination was all UW figures EXCEPT Afterburner, swapping him with his CW version, plus the CW hands/feet.
For me, CW Afterburners colours help break up a predominantly red combined figure.
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826071)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on September 19th, 2016 @ 1:57am CDT
Not really, cos unless I get lucky I gotta buy a huge box set full of toys I don't want just to get the one lil dude I do want. I wish they'd just released Scrounge as a seperate figure in the CW line like Powerglide and such...
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on September 19th, 2016 @ 1:57am CDT
The 7 Scrounge diehards out there ought to be pretty happy with this!
Not really, cos unless I get lucky I gotta buy a huge box set full of toys I don't want just to get the one lil dude I do want. I wish they'd just released Scrounge as a seperate figure in the CW line like Powerglide and such...
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826072)
Posted by lowman_x on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:20am CDT
Posted by lowman_x on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:20am CDT
Yeah, I have to admit, Afterburner is my least favourite figure form the UW set. Like, the colour is so iridescent red and kinda see-through-ish (if that makes sense). He sticks out like a sore thumb. I would love to get the CW hands and feet, but I'm not forking out another exorbitant amount of money just for that. 
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826118)
Posted by Terrsolpix on September 19th, 2016 @ 8:38am CDT
I'm referring to CW Straffe's wing. Forgot to mention
Posted by Terrsolpix on September 19th, 2016 @ 8:38am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Terrsolpix wrote:Since I won't be getting a CW Computron unless he goes on sale for $30, is it possible to attach Scrounge and Cybaxx as a shield on the Staffe arm?
Technically, he can't: UW Strafe doesn't have a dedicated 5mm peg on top of his cockpit, only the CW version does.
I'm referring to CW Straffe's wing. Forgot to mention
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826175)
Posted by william-james88 on September 19th, 2016 @ 10:51am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 19th, 2016 @ 10:51am CDT
You surprise me with your MVPs Shajaki, I didnt see UW Lightspeed being the standout of the set. But I guess its because the idea is that what Takara did to the mold made you like a mold you usually dislike right? So even if its still not a great mold, you liking this toy means more than you liking a mold we know is usually good. I must admit he surprised me too and I like how they paint apps, especially how they ake advantage of him having a fake chest to make him toon accurate for both modes (which is usually impossible when each has a different looking alt mode front).
I wouldnt know who my standout would be. Maybe Strafe, I really like that alt mode. My least favourite is Scatershot. I am not fond of the plastic used for his alt mode wings and I find it odd how he doesnt really have a neck in robot mode. His head looks squished closer to his body. And I the only one who feels that way?
Anyways, I like what you did with those guns and I will work on some more combinations tonight
I wouldnt know who my standout would be. Maybe Strafe, I really like that alt mode. My least favourite is Scatershot. I am not fond of the plastic used for his alt mode wings and I find it odd how he doesnt really have a neck in robot mode. His head looks squished closer to his body. And I the only one who feels that way?
Anyways, I like what you did with those guns and I will work on some more combinations tonight
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826190)
Posted by Cobotron on September 19th, 2016 @ 11:07am CDT
Posted by Cobotron on September 19th, 2016 @ 11:07am CDT
Good read Jak! 
I like seeing every bodies mash-ups of the different sets. I'm with Burn on the all UW set with CW Afterburner. The colors really make for the G1 super set. Although CW Nosecone is spot on for G1 color, that Rook remold takes the cake.
Jak, what's your favorite mash-up?
I like seeing every bodies mash-ups of the different sets. I'm with Burn on the all UW set with CW Afterburner. The colors really make for the G1 super set. Although CW Nosecone is spot on for G1 color, that Rook remold takes the cake.
Jak, what's your favorite mash-up?
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826195)
Posted by william-james88 on September 19th, 2016 @ 11:13am CDT
I really like whet they did with the rook mold as nosecone. The new tooling was smart and the alt mode looks great. But since this is my first actual version of the rook mold (I do own the Swindle/Hound mold which is a complete reshell), thre is something I am not fond of: his hands. I dont like those holes in the front, it makes him unable to hold a gun properly. I respect the new playability but Strafe in the same set shows how you could have both.
I am more fond of how Swindle/Hound turned out, with their hands and all.
Posted by william-james88 on September 19th, 2016 @ 11:13am CDT
Cobotron wrote:Although CW Nosecone is spot on for G1 color, that Rook remold takes the cake.
I really like whet they did with the rook mold as nosecone. The new tooling was smart and the alt mode looks great. But since this is my first actual version of the rook mold (I do own the Swindle/Hound mold which is a complete reshell), thre is something I am not fond of: his hands. I dont like those holes in the front, it makes him unable to hold a gun properly. I respect the new playability but Strafe in the same set shows how you could have both.
I am more fond of how Swindle/Hound turned out, with their hands and all.
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826220)
Posted by ScottyP on September 19th, 2016 @ 11:48am CDT
Hasbro Nosecone as SG Brawl? Lightspeed as MTMTE Red Alert (to steal Counterpunch's idea, for the record)? Strafe as Wing? UW Afterburner as Vroom?
Posted by ScottyP on September 19th, 2016 @ 11:48am CDT
Bingo, this right here is the ticket. Which leaves me to ponder repurposing for the othersBurn wrote:So for me, the best combination was all UW figures EXCEPT Afterburner, swapping him with his CW version, plus the CW hands/feet.
For me, CW Afterburners colours help break up a predominantly red combined figure.
Hasbro Nosecone as SG Brawl? Lightspeed as MTMTE Red Alert (to steal Counterpunch's idea, for the record)? Strafe as Wing? UW Afterburner as Vroom?
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826248)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 19th, 2016 @ 1:11pm CDT
all sounds good to me
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 19th, 2016 @ 1:11pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Bingo, this right here is the ticket. Which leaves me to ponder repurposing for the othersBurn wrote:So for me, the best combination was all UW figures EXCEPT Afterburner, swapping him with his CW version, plus the CW hands/feet.
For me, CW Afterburners colours help break up a predominantly red combined figure.
Hasbro Nosecone as SG Brawl? Lightspeed as MTMTE Red Alert (to steal Counterpunch's idea, for the record)? Strafe as Wing? UW Afterburner as Vroom?
all sounds good to me
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826251)
Posted by shajaki on September 19th, 2016 @ 1:19pm CDT
See my reply to Burn for the dream combo
Posted by shajaki on September 19th, 2016 @ 1:19pm CDT
Didn't I? Only thing I didn't use was Afterburner's guns. I hate those things. So odd and... tallTerrsolpix wrote:I dare you to combine all the UW weapons into something out of an over the top anime.
Agreed. I would do the same, but I actually don't like that it takes all the pink away. It's one of the major things that sets him apart.adamage1 wrote:I spent about the same amount of money one would for the Unite Warriors set to get the Combiner Wars set plus the Perfect Effect PC-11 addon kit, which led to a very G1 toy-looking combiner as a result. I am quite amazed at how much the PE kit changes the look of the set.
I would do the same. A perfect Computron for me though, would be your combination with CW Strafe IF he were the same pretty snow white as UW's.Burn wrote:I got both with the full intent of mixing things around.
So for me, the best combination was all UW figures EXCEPT Afterburner, swapping him with his CW version, plus the CW hands/feet.
The fact that he was officially made, is a miracle in of itself. With something that niche, you gotta expect him to be expensive. Besides, you can buy him separately off of eBay for less than 50 bucks. Not TOO insane if you ask me.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Not really, cos unless I get lucky I gotta buy a huge box set full of toys I don't want just to get the one lil dude I do want. I wish they'd just released Scrounge as a seperate figure in the CW line like Powerglide and such...
I surprised myself! But hey, nostalgia weighed heavy on that one. I had LS as a wee onewilliam-james88 wrote:You surprise me with your MVPs Shajaki, I didnt see UW Lightspeed being the standout of the set.
Thanks RobroCobotron wrote:Good read Jak!
Jak, what's your favorite mash-up?
See my reply to Burn for the dream combo
While I also wish he had regular hands, the Rook standard is still lots of fun.william-james88 wrote:thre is something I am not fond of: his hands. I dont like those holes in the front, it makes him unable to hold a gun properly.
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826252)
Posted by adamage1 on September 19th, 2016 @ 1:28pm CDT
Take a look at the attached photo or the photo album linked on my post. The PE chest plate is actually quite more towards the pink side than the orange side of the red spectrum. They really nailed the G1 toy look.
Posted by adamage1 on September 19th, 2016 @ 1:28pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Agreed. I would do the same, but I actually don't like that it takes all the pink away. It's one of the major things that sets him apart.adamage1 wrote:I spent about the same amount of money one would for the Unite Warriors set to get the Combiner Wars set plus the Perfect Effect PC-11 addon kit, which led to a very G1 toy-looking combiner as a result. I am quite amazed at how much the PE kit changes the look of the set.
Take a look at the attached photo or the photo album linked on my post. The PE chest plate is actually quite more towards the pink side than the orange side of the red spectrum. They really nailed the G1 toy look.
Re: Meeting Of The Minds - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors And Combiner Wars Computron (1826258)
Posted by Kurona on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:07pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:07pm CDT
CW Nosecone, Lightsteed and UW Afterburner could always be used as the new Technobots in IDW after their counterparts died at Kimia.
It's probably what Hasbro's gonna force IDW to do, anyway...
It's probably what Hasbro's gonna force IDW to do, anyway...
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Posted by Flashwave on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:16pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:16pm CDT
I love the UW Afterburner Guns, bit the mounting choices are so random, and so often times one blocks the other from connecting tightly.
I build a super gyn using the barrel sans sjield from Hadbro's Scattorshot. I plugged UW Nosecone's Rifle into the back of it facing backwards. I plugged CW Afterburner's guns forwards into Nosecone's Rifle's double hole. Then I plugged each of UW Scattorshots guns into Afterburner's, with each of Strafe's long guns as barrel extensions and attached Nosecones two shorter pistols to the tops of Strafe's guns, tilted 45* inward. Its a gun only Afterburner can hold though, as the handpeg for Nosecone's rifle has to fit into the wheel well for Afterburner. I could attach Lifhtspeed's two guns, but I have them mounted to Computron's thighs. Strafe's small gun sits on Computron's bicep.
CW Nosecone- Heatrovk
CW Strafe- SkyFeather
Add in Rook and CW Mirage, and you get the Big Rescue Force guys. You can even use the tilt hinge in Mirage's spoiler, snd a suitable HFG to make the rocket launcher from tge Jallugar mold.
CW Giftset Scattorshot makes a passing Cloudrake, if you need to.
CW Lightspeed- Red Alert. Yes, he should be a Lambo, but the bot mode colors are right and he has the lightbar.
UW Afterburner: Road Rocket?
I build a super gyn using the barrel sans sjield from Hadbro's Scattorshot. I plugged UW Nosecone's Rifle into the back of it facing backwards. I plugged CW Afterburner's guns forwards into Nosecone's Rifle's double hole. Then I plugged each of UW Scattorshots guns into Afterburner's, with each of Strafe's long guns as barrel extensions and attached Nosecones two shorter pistols to the tops of Strafe's guns, tilted 45* inward. Its a gun only Afterburner can hold though, as the handpeg for Nosecone's rifle has to fit into the wheel well for Afterburner. I could attach Lifhtspeed's two guns, but I have them mounted to Computron's thighs. Strafe's small gun sits on Computron's bicep.
ScottyP wrote:Bingo, this right here is the ticket. Which leaves me to ponder repurposing for the othersBurn wrote:So for me, the best combination was all UW figures EXCEPT Afterburner, swapping him with his CW version, plus the CW hands/feet.
For me, CW Afterburners colours help break up a predominantly red combined figure.
Hasbro Nosecone as SG Brawl? Lightspeed as MTMTE Red Alert (to steal Counterpunch's idea, for the record)? Strafe as Wing? UW Afterburner as Vroom?
CW Nosecone- Heatrovk
CW Strafe- SkyFeather
Add in Rook and CW Mirage, and you get the Big Rescue Force guys. You can even use the tilt hinge in Mirage's spoiler, snd a suitable HFG to make the rocket launcher from tge Jallugar mold.
CW Giftset Scattorshot makes a passing Cloudrake, if you need to.
CW Lightspeed- Red Alert. Yes, he should be a Lambo, but the bot mode colors are right and he has the lightbar.
UW Afterburner: Road Rocket?
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Posted by william-james88 on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:18pm CDT
Thats an excellent suggestion.
Or Unicron Trilogy Ransack
Posted by william-james88 on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:18pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:UW Afterburner: Road Rocket?
Thats an excellent suggestion.
Or Unicron Trilogy Ransack
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Posted by Kurona on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:23pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:23pm CDT
You could also try swapping the heads around for some more variety; like CW Lightsteed's head with UW Afterburner's.
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Posted by william-james88 on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:33pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:33pm CDT
Here is how you could link up the Afterburner guns to the bigger gun, looks awesome
Courtousy of ma70er on TFW
Courtousy of ma70er on TFW
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Posted by Optimum Supreme on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:37pm CDT
Wow, Betatron's certainly a beta, his head's not even recolored from Superion, c'mon Hasbro, what'd you do, crank out too many Superion heads by accident and had to find a way to get rid of them? At least the set version has a different color for Computron's head, if not a new mold like Takara.
Anyway, looks to me like using Takara Scattershot and Nosecone would be a must, the other three, I really don't feel strongly about either way. Takara's combining gun is a must, but Hasbro's hands & feet are refreshing after so many HGF's.
And I totally agree with the Scrounge fan, he shouldn't be locked up in an expensive set.
Posted by Optimum Supreme on September 19th, 2016 @ 2:37pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
Wow, Betatron's certainly a beta, his head's not even recolored from Superion, c'mon Hasbro, what'd you do, crank out too many Superion heads by accident and had to find a way to get rid of them? At least the set version has a different color for Computron's head, if not a new mold like Takara.
Anyway, looks to me like using Takara Scattershot and Nosecone would be a must, the other three, I really don't feel strongly about either way. Takara's combining gun is a must, but Hasbro's hands & feet are refreshing after so many HGF's.
And I totally agree with the Scrounge fan, he shouldn't be locked up in an expensive set.
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on September 19th, 2016 @ 3:07pm CDT
I've had him on my eBay search for past couple months and nothing's come up other than complete computron sets. And '50 bucks' may not be much to you but for me it's a huge amount especially for such a small figure and would like need additional shipping costs to the UK where I am. I say again I wish he had just been released seperately in the £10 line especially since I never even saw the original mold Cosmos for sale anywhere around these parts either.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on September 19th, 2016 @ 3:07pm CDT
shajaki wrote:The fact that he was officially made, is a miracle in of itself. With something that niche, you gotta expect him to be expensive. Besides, you can buy him separately off of eBay for less than 50 bucks. Not TOO insane if you ask me.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Not really, cos unless I get lucky I gotta buy a huge box set full of toys I don't want just to get the one lil dude I do want. I wish they'd just released Scrounge as a seperate figure in the CW line like Powerglide and such...
I've had him on my eBay search for past couple months and nothing's come up other than complete computron sets. And '50 bucks' may not be much to you but for me it's a huge amount especially for such a small figure and would like need additional shipping costs to the UK where I am. I say again I wish he had just been released seperately in the £10 line especially since I never even saw the original mold Cosmos for sale anywhere around these parts either.
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Posted by JoeIsNotCool on September 19th, 2016 @ 4:25pm CDT
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on September 19th, 2016 @ 4:25pm CDT
I personally prefer the Hasbro release, the drill on Takaras Nosecone just sticking out so much really bugs me and in my opinion looks dreadful. The robot and vehicle mode are great, I just wish that the drill could be stored better and not stick out so much...
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Posted by Ultra Markus on September 19th, 2016 @ 6:48pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on September 19th, 2016 @ 6:48pm CDT
i never had the g1 computron i only saw him on cartoon and takaras to me is the clear winner 
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Posted by adamage1 on September 20th, 2016 @ 9:32pm CDT
Posted by adamage1 on September 20th, 2016 @ 9:32pm CDT
I took a few better shots with my DSLR.
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Posted by Kurona on September 20th, 2016 @ 9:46pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on September 20th, 2016 @ 9:46pm CDT
Now that is lovely. Nosecone still sticks out like a bad thumb with a hilariously tiny drill attachment, but the main problem's fixed and it looks amazingly better even if it didn't have the new chest - just that head is enough.
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Posted by adamage1 on September 20th, 2016 @ 10:12pm CDT
To be honest, the only thing about Nosecone I don’t much care for is the turret being yellow. Yes, the Brawl mold is kind of blech, but overall he makes a fine limb (and this set will always be posed as Big Red anyway). It actually feels to me like they fixed a bit of the QC issues with the Brawl mold here, too.
Posted by adamage1 on September 20th, 2016 @ 10:12pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Now that is lovely. Nosecone still sticks out like a bad thumb with a hilariously tiny drill attachment, but the main problem's fixed and it looks amazingly better even if it didn't have the new chest - just that head is enough.
To be honest, the only thing about Nosecone I don’t much care for is the turret being yellow. Yes, the Brawl mold is kind of blech, but overall he makes a fine limb (and this set will always be posed as Big Red anyway). It actually feels to me like they fixed a bit of the QC issues with the Brawl mold here, too.
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Posted by Kurona on September 20th, 2016 @ 10:22pm CDT
Oh true, I've got a complete Bruticus sitting here and I love Brawl as a leg. It's just that for Nosecone, the drill feels a bit... pathetic. A bit too small for my tastes.
Posted by Kurona on September 20th, 2016 @ 10:22pm CDT
adamage1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Now that is lovely. Nosecone still sticks out like a bad thumb with a hilariously tiny drill attachment, but the main problem's fixed and it looks amazingly better even if it didn't have the new chest - just that head is enough.
To be honest, the only thing about Nosecone I don’t much care for is the turret being yellow. Yes, the Brawl mold is kind of blech, but overall he makes a fine limb (and this set will always be posed as Big Red anyway). It actually feels to me like they fixed a bit of the QC issues with the Brawl mold here, too.
Oh true, I've got a complete Bruticus sitting here and I love Brawl as a leg. It's just that for Nosecone, the drill feels a bit... pathetic. A bit too small for my tastes.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 20th, 2016 @ 10:41pm CDT
It was thanks to this thread and the new seibertron gallery put up that I cancelled my UW Computron pre-order. I just don't have the money and I have realized I'll be more content with the hasbro one than I thought I would be. It has a lot of bonuses that I now appreciate more thanks to those 2 stories
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 20th, 2016 @ 10:41pm CDT
Kurona wrote:adamage1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Now that is lovely. Nosecone still sticks out like a bad thumb with a hilariously tiny drill attachment, but the main problem's fixed and it looks amazingly better even if it didn't have the new chest - just that head is enough.
To be honest, the only thing about Nosecone I don’t much care for is the turret being yellow. Yes, the Brawl mold is kind of blech, but overall he makes a fine limb (and this set will always be posed as Big Red anyway). It actually feels to me like they fixed a bit of the QC issues with the Brawl mold here, too.
Oh true, I've got a complete Bruticus sitting here and I love Brawl as a leg. It's just that for Nosecone, the drill feels a bit... pathetic. A bit too small for my tastes.
It was thanks to this thread and the new seibertron gallery put up that I cancelled my UW Computron pre-order. I just don't have the money and I have realized I'll be more content with the hasbro one than I thought I would be. It has a lot of bonuses that I now appreciate more thanks to those 2 stories
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Posted by Kurona on September 20th, 2016 @ 11:07pm CDT
Duuuude... we've been going on about UW Nosecone's drill for months on end, and you're just gonna give up on that?
Posted by Kurona on September 20th, 2016 @ 11:07pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:adamage1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Now that is lovely. Nosecone still sticks out like a bad thumb with a hilariously tiny drill attachment, but the main problem's fixed and it looks amazingly better even if it didn't have the new chest - just that head is enough.
To be honest, the only thing about Nosecone I don’t much care for is the turret being yellow. Yes, the Brawl mold is kind of blech, but overall he makes a fine limb (and this set will always be posed as Big Red anyway). It actually feels to me like they fixed a bit of the QC issues with the Brawl mold here, too.
Oh true, I've got a complete Bruticus sitting here and I love Brawl as a leg. It's just that for Nosecone, the drill feels a bit... pathetic. A bit too small for my tastes.
It was thanks to this thread and the new seibertron gallery put up that I cancelled my UW Computron pre-order. I just don't have the money and I have realized I'll be more content with the hasbro one than I thought I would be. It has a lot of bonuses that I now appreciate more thanks to those 2 stories
Duuuude... we've been going on about UW Nosecone's drill for months on end, and you're just gonna give up on that?
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 20th, 2016 @ 11:09pm CDT
I just don't have the money.
Plus, I can probably find one on Ebay at some point to go with Computron
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 20th, 2016 @ 11:09pm CDT
Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:adamage1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Now that is lovely. Nosecone still sticks out like a bad thumb with a hilariously tiny drill attachment, but the main problem's fixed and it looks amazingly better even if it didn't have the new chest - just that head is enough.
To be honest, the only thing about Nosecone I don’t much care for is the turret being yellow. Yes, the Brawl mold is kind of blech, but overall he makes a fine limb (and this set will always be posed as Big Red anyway). It actually feels to me like they fixed a bit of the QC issues with the Brawl mold here, too.
Oh true, I've got a complete Bruticus sitting here and I love Brawl as a leg. It's just that for Nosecone, the drill feels a bit... pathetic. A bit too small for my tastes.
It was thanks to this thread and the new seibertron gallery put up that I cancelled my UW Computron pre-order. I just don't have the money and I have realized I'll be more content with the hasbro one than I thought I would be. It has a lot of bonuses that I now appreciate more thanks to those 2 stories
Duuuude... we've been going on about UW Nosecone's drill for months on end, and you're just gonna give up on that?
I just don't have the money.
Plus, I can probably find one on Ebay at some point to go with Computron
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Posted by adamage1 on September 20th, 2016 @ 11:36pm CDT
Keep in mind that my set is the Combiner Wars box set PLUS the Perfect Effect PC-11 kit. Cost-wise, it comes out to roughly the same price to buy these together as it did for the pre-order price for the UW Computron.
Posted by adamage1 on September 20th, 2016 @ 11:36pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:adamage1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Now that is lovely. Nosecone still sticks out like a bad thumb with a hilariously tiny drill attachment, but the main problem's fixed and it looks amazingly better even if it didn't have the new chest - just that head is enough.
To be honest, the only thing about Nosecone I don’t much care for is the turret being yellow. Yes, the Brawl mold is kind of blech, but overall he makes a fine limb (and this set will always be posed as Big Red anyway). It actually feels to me like they fixed a bit of the QC issues with the Brawl mold here, too.
Oh true, I've got a complete Bruticus sitting here and I love Brawl as a leg. It's just that for Nosecone, the drill feels a bit... pathetic. A bit too small for my tastes.
It was thanks to this thread and the new seibertron gallery put up that I cancelled my UW Computron pre-order. I just don't have the money and I have realized I'll be more content with the hasbro one than I thought I would be. It has a lot of bonuses that I now appreciate more thanks to those 2 stories
Keep in mind that my set is the Combiner Wars box set PLUS the Perfect Effect PC-11 kit. Cost-wise, it comes out to roughly the same price to buy these together as it did for the pre-order price for the UW Computron.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 20th, 2016 @ 11:51pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 20th, 2016 @ 11:51pm CDT
Thanks, but I'm not too worried about the 3rd party add-ons. I'm ok with what Hasbro already has on it
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Posted by shajaki on September 21st, 2016 @ 12:04pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on September 21st, 2016 @ 12:04pm CDT
Agreed. The add on sets are great, but I actually really love the look of him as is. And his hands/feet need no upgradesD-Maximus_Primal wrote:Thanks, but I'm not too worried about the 3rd party add-ons. I'm ok with what Hasbro already has on it
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Posted by adamage1 on September 22nd, 2016 @ 4:18pm CDT
No problem. Based on your previous quote, I simply didn't want people to think that my pictures were showing the standard box set and then be surprised when they ordered the set and it was something different.
For me, the PE addon makes for a really nice G1-homaged set, so I wanted to show people how it looked.
Posted by adamage1 on September 22nd, 2016 @ 4:18pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Thanks, but I'm not too worried about the 3rd party add-ons. I'm ok with what Hasbro already has on it
No problem. Based on your previous quote, I simply didn't want people to think that my pictures were showing the standard box set and then be surprised when they ordered the set and it was something different.
For me, the PE addon makes for a really nice G1-homaged set, so I wanted to show people how it looked.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 22nd, 2016 @ 4:36pm CDT
It does look good, don't get me wrong.
I just don't feel I need it. I've come to terms with the faceplate
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 22nd, 2016 @ 4:36pm CDT
adamage1 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Thanks, but I'm not too worried about the 3rd party add-ons. I'm ok with what Hasbro already has on it
No problem. Based on your previous quote, I simply didn't want people to think that my pictures were showing the standard box set and then be surprised when they ordered the set and it was something different.
For me, the PE addon makes for a really nice G1-homaged set, so I wanted to show people how it looked.
It does look good, don't get me wrong.
I just don't feel I need it. I've come to terms with the faceplate
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