New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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I hate all of this so much. Firstly, we are still stuck with the crap scatershot and that nosecone retool from brawl will look like a steaming pile of doodoo.
Comment by william-james88
Jan 2, 2016
steals_your_goats wrote:
See I'm still torn on going Hasbro or Takara. The transmissions rumors said the limbs would break down as such
Aerialbot retool as strafe (air raid?)
Stunticon retool as lightspeed (probably the Wheeljack retool)
Groove remold as afterburner
And nosecone will use the brawl retooling.
I hate all of this so much. Firstly, we are still stuck with the crap scatershot and that nosecone retool from brawl will look like a steaming pile of doodoo.
Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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That's not necessarily true; you said the rumors state that the aerialbot would get retooled - probably to the extent that scattershot was retooled - and if they can get a strafe out of that, why would TT make a new mold?
I never once thought that TT would just make bigroove and blast-off on their own, and out of their own pocket, rather hasbro wanted the motocycle mold started, and TT decided to prioritize it, and then re-purpose it for the defensor set - kill two laserbeaks with one stone.
Beyond the fact that I don't really see any resemblance between Blast-off and Strafe, it seems far more sensible to remold skydive as it already has the tail fins, the general shape and attachment points for wings, and the ability to have the arms utilized in a similar fashion as Strafe.
Comment by Hellscream9999
Jan 2, 2016
steals_your_goats wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:So if the Computron rumor pans out (which I really think it will) who do you think the 6th member will be? I'm thinking it's going to be a shockwave retool personally. Alt mode fits the technobot aesthetic plus he's like the only combiner wars mold without a redeco/obvious redeco.
Probably - unless they remold powerglide into an unmanned drone or something - unlikely - so, yeah, I think it'll be a re-color of shockwave, which would be great 'cuz then it'd be another great reason to go in on the set
See I'm still torn on going Hasbro or Takara. The transmissions rumors said the limbs would break down as such
Aerialbot retool as strafe (air raid?)
Stunticon retool as lightspeed (probably the Wheeljack retool)
Groove remold as afterburner
And nosecone will use the brawl retooling.
So with this I would have to assume that strafe would get the "Takara treatment" in the form of a new mold or at least a blastoff remold.
So on one hand we (assumably) will get a 6 man combiner team with an interesting legends class guy.
On the other hand we (assumably) will get a new mold/new remold limb but will likely have to pay more for a 5 man team and wait until the end of the year.
That's not necessarily true; you said the rumors state that the aerialbot would get retooled - probably to the extent that scattershot was retooled - and if they can get a strafe out of that, why would TT make a new mold?
I never once thought that TT would just make bigroove and blast-off on their own, and out of their own pocket, rather hasbro wanted the motocycle mold started, and TT decided to prioritize it, and then re-purpose it for the defensor set - kill two laserbeaks with one stone.
Beyond the fact that I don't really see any resemblance between Blast-off and Strafe, it seems far more sensible to remold skydive as it already has the tail fins, the general shape and attachment points for wings, and the ability to have the arms utilized in a similar fashion as Strafe.
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Well Scattershot looks a lot like his G1 self, in a sense like how MM looks like his G1 self... They've been updated, and just like with MM, or Firefly, or Mixmaster we'll all learn to live with it. I'm sure with a new combined mode head, and an actual paint scheme you could warm up to an actual scattershot
Comment by Hellscream9999
Jan 2, 2016
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:
See I'm still torn on going Hasbro or Takara. The transmissions rumors said the limbs would break down as such
Aerialbot retool as strafe (air raid?)
Stunticon retool as lightspeed (probably the Wheeljack retool)
Groove remold as afterburner
And nosecone will use the brawl retooling.
I hate all of this so much. Firstly, we are still stuck with the crap scattershot and that nosecone retool from brawl will look like a steaming pile of doodoo.
Well Scattershot looks a lot like his G1 self, in a sense like how MM looks like his G1 self... They've been updated, and just like with MM, or Firefly, or Mixmaster we'll all learn to live with it. I'm sure with a new combined mode head, and an actual paint scheme you could warm up to an actual scattershot
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Comment by LE0KING
Jan 2, 2016
I'm alittle surprised (and disappointed) that they didn't listen to fan feedback after the reveal and alter the Victorion paint scheme a bit.
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If (and I think that’s still a big “if”) we get a full team, I’m thinking this can go two ways:
1) A wave of deluxe Technobots (and accompanying legend figure). However, that would be so far down the line that that Scattershot would get a second wave. If so, he might get an updated version, as with red/white Prime and the expected silver/green Onslaught.
2) Box set. I personally think that this is the most likely, since Titans Returns will probably tie up the deluxe and voyager wave assortments. The Scattershot would definitely get updated in that case.
Either way, we wouldn’t see any new Scattershot until Titans Returns is underway, so I have a pretty heavy suspicion why no one bothered to give the current torso a new Computron head...
Comment by Gunmetal
Jan 2, 2016
Agreed. I think Scattershot is what he is: an alternative to half-empty Onslaught cases.Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:
See I'm still torn on going Hasbro or Takara. The transmissions rumors said the limbs would break down as such
Aerialbot retool as strafe (air raid?)
Stunticon retool as lightspeed (probably the Wheeljack retool)
Groove remold as afterburner
And nosecone will use the brawl retooling.
I hate all of this so much. Firstly, we are still stuck with the crap scattershot and that nosecone retool from brawl will look like a steaming pile of doodoo.
Well Scattershot looks a lot like his G1 self, in a sense like how MM looks like his G1 self... They've been updated, and just like with MM, or Firefly, or Mixmaster we'll all learn to live with it. I'm sure with a new combined mode head, and an actual paint scheme you could warm up to an actual scattershot
If (and I think that’s still a big “if”) we get a full team, I’m thinking this can go two ways:
1) A wave of deluxe Technobots (and accompanying legend figure). However, that would be so far down the line that that Scattershot would get a second wave. If so, he might get an updated version, as with red/white Prime and the expected silver/green Onslaught.
2) Box set. I personally think that this is the most likely, since Titans Returns will probably tie up the deluxe and voyager wave assortments. The Scattershot would definitely get updated in that case.
Either way, we wouldn’t see any new Scattershot until Titans Returns is underway, so I have a pretty heavy suspicion why no one bothered to give the current torso a new Computron head...

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Comment by ZeroWolf
Jan 2, 2016
In one sense, the fan feedback wasn't as unanimous as you would believe plus that would screw up their schedule a bit to accommodate a vocal minority (in all probability to be fair) a change in schedule costs money, monet they may not get back if they did change the colour scheme.
Edit- this was in response to the comment about victorion colour scheme. ..I didn't expect my post to end up a page away from the comment
Edit- this was in response to the comment about victorion colour scheme. ..I didn't expect my post to end up a page away from the comment

Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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Nooo....
Comment by Noideaforaname
Jan 2, 2016
So, are you guys pumped for Victorion and 2016?
Nooo....
Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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Is there anything in 2016 that interests you?
Comment by william-james88
Jan 2, 2016
Noideaforaname wrote:So, are you guys pumped for Victorion and 2016?
Nooo....
Is there anything in 2016 that interests you?
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Comment by Noideaforaname
Jan 2, 2016
^ Legion "Jim Cummings as a crab-bot" and that gun/half of a T. rex/not-Vos Headmaster.
But then again I'm trying to cut back for personal sanity's sake (and other sakes), so this is less "everything sucks" and more "oh hey I can do without this".
But then again I'm trying to cut back for personal sanity's sake (and other sakes), so this is less "everything sucks" and more "oh hey I can do without this".
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Yeah, that's how I've been the last near decade with tf's
Comment by Hellscream9999
Jan 2, 2016
Noideaforaname wrote:But then again I'm trying to cut back for personal sanity's sake (and other sakes), so this is less "everything sucks" and more "oh hey I can do without this".
Yeah, that's how I've been the last near decade with tf's

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Comment by ThunderThruster
Jan 3, 2016
Looking forward to Victorion and I'd be really happy if the technobot deluxe rumors come to fruition
Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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Wait, what Prime and what Onslaught?
Also, my two cents, I'd guess we'd get a remold of Legends Shockwave as Strafe.
My guess is if they do release Technobots, this'll be the format:
Silverbolt into Scattershot
Shockwave/new mold into Strafe
Brawl into Nosecone
Dragstrip/Wheeljack into Lightspeed
Takara Groove into Afterburner
Comment by Madeus Prime
Jan 3, 2016
Randomus wrote:A wave of deluxe Technobots (and accompanying legend figure). However, that would be so far down the line that that Scattershot would get a second wave. If so, he might get an updated version, as with red/white Prime and the expected silver/green Onslaught.
Wait, what Prime and what Onslaught?
Also, my two cents, I'd guess we'd get a remold of Legends Shockwave as Strafe.
My guess is if they do release Technobots, this'll be the format:
Silverbolt into Scattershot
Shockwave/new mold into Strafe
Brawl into Nosecone
Dragstrip/Wheeljack into Lightspeed
Takara Groove into Afterburner
Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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He's talking about the original red prime and battle core optimus and the silver chested onslaught and the olive green one coming out with sky lynx. And if they do the shockwave remold who will be the other limb? You're missing the fourth limb.
Comment by steals_your_goats
Jan 3, 2016
Madeus Prime wrote:Randomus wrote:A wave of deluxe Technobots (and accompanying legend figure). However, that would be so far down the line that that Scattershot would get a second wave. If so, he might get an updated version, as with red/white Prime and the expected silver/green Onslaught.
Wait, what Prime and what Onslaught?
Also, my two cents, I'd guess we'd get a remold of Legends Shockwave as Strafe.
My guess is if they do release Technobots, this'll be the format:
Silverbolt into Scattershot
Shockwave/new mold into Strafe
Brawl into Nosecone
Dragstrip/Wheeljack into Lightspeed
Takara Groove into Afterburner
He's talking about the original red prime and battle core optimus and the silver chested onslaught and the olive green one coming out with sky lynx. And if they do the shockwave remold who will be the other limb? You're missing the fourth limb.
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Same here, I can't afford everything.
Comment by DedicatedGhostArt
Jan 3, 2016
Noideaforaname wrote:^ Legion "Jim Cummings as a crab-bot" and that gun/half of a T. rex/not-Vos Headmaster.
But then again I'm trying to cut back for personal sanity's sake (and other sakes), so this is less "everything sucks" and more "oh hey I can do without this".
Same here, I can't afford everything.
Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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He listed 5 members plus Shockwave as Strafe, so there are actually 6 members listed.
Comment by DedicatedGhostArt
Jan 3, 2016
steals_your_goats wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Randomus wrote:A wave of deluxe Technobots (and accompanying legend figure). However, that would be so far down the line that that Scattershot would get a second wave. If so, he might get an updated version, as with red/white Prime and the expected silver/green Onslaught.
Wait, what Prime and what Onslaught?
Also, my two cents, I'd guess we'd get a remold of Legends Shockwave as Strafe.
My guess is if they do release Technobots, this'll be the format:
Silverbolt into Scattershot
Shockwave/new mold into Strafe
Brawl into Nosecone
Dragstrip/Wheeljack into Lightspeed
Takara Groove into Afterburner
He's talking about the original red prime and battle core optimus and the silver chested onslaught and the olive green one coming out with sky lynx. And if they do the shockwave remold who will be the other limb? You're missing the fourth limb.
He listed 5 members plus Shockwave as Strafe, so there are actually 6 members listed.
Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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Take a look at the list again please. That doesn't really look like 6.
Comment by Autobot N
Jan 3, 2016
SillySpringer wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Randomus wrote:A wave of deluxe Technobots (and accompanying legend figure). However, that would be so far down the line that that Scattershot would get a second wave. If so, he might get an updated version, as with red/white Prime and the expected silver/green Onslaught.
Wait, what Prime and what Onslaught?
Also, my two cents, I'd guess we'd get a remold of Legends Shockwave as Strafe.
My guess is if they do release Technobots, this'll be the format:
1: Silverbolt into Scattershot
2: Shockwave/new mold into Strafe
3: Brawl into Nosecone
4: Dragstrip/Wheeljack into Lightspeed
5: Takara Groove into Afterburner
He's talking about the original red prime and battle core optimus and the silver chested onslaught and the olive green one coming out with sky lynx. And if they do the shockwave remold who will be the other limb? You're missing the fourth limb.
He listed 5 members plus Shockwave as Strafe, so there are actually 6 members listed.
Take a look at the list again please. That doesn't really look like 6.
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Ah, I didn't know about the running change with Onslaught. And I was just leaving for a ski lesson when typing that list, I forgot to put in the sixth character/limb!
1: Silverbolt into Scattershot
2: Shockwave/new mold into Strafe
3: Brawl into Nosecone
4: Dragstrip/Wheeljack into Lightspeed
5: Takara Groove into Afterburner
6: New mold into sixth member (ala Rook, Alpha Bravo, Offroad...)
Comment by Madeus Prime
Jan 3, 2016
steals_your_goats wrote:He's talking about the original red prime and battle core optimus and the silver chested onslaught and the olive green one coming out with sky lynx. And if they do the shockwave remold who will be the other limb? You're missing the fourth limb.
Ah, I didn't know about the running change with Onslaught. And I was just leaving for a ski lesson when typing that list, I forgot to put in the sixth character/limb!

1: Silverbolt into Scattershot
2: Shockwave/new mold into Strafe
3: Brawl into Nosecone
4: Dragstrip/Wheeljack into Lightspeed
5: Takara Groove into Afterburner
6: New mold into sixth member (ala Rook, Alpha Bravo, Offroad...)
Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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Sorry I misread it, throw poop at me, whatever.
Comment by DedicatedGhostArt
Jan 3, 2016
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Take a look at the list again please. That doesn't really look like 6.
Sorry I misread it, throw poop at me, whatever.

Re: New Original Art featuring Transformers Generations Combiner Wars VIctorion
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On the box it listed his combined form was Betatron and his limbs were BCP's Autobot team. I didn't read the bio to see if there was some reason for the match up like there was for Cyclonus/Galvatronus. Maybe they will tie the name into some type of beta test for the real deal Computron?
Comment by no-one
Jan 3, 2016
I had my eyes on Scattershot this weekend and this reminded me of something I noticed. This is probably not news, and I think it has have been discussed previously, but may lend some credence to a Scattershot redeco.Randomus wrote:If (and I think that’s still a big “if”) we get a full team, I’m thinking this can go two ways:
1) A wave of deluxe Technobots (and accompanying legend figure). However, that would be so far down the line that that Scattershot would get a second wave. If so, he might get an updated version, as with red/white Prime and the expected silver/green Onslaught.
2) Box set. I personally think that this is the most likely, since Titans Returns will probably tie up the deluxe and voyager wave assortments. The Scattershot would definitely get updated in that case.
Either way, we wouldn’t see any new Scattershot until Titans Returns is underway, so I have a pretty heavy suspicion why no one bothered to give the current torso a new Computron head...
On the box it listed his combined form was Betatron and his limbs were BCP's Autobot team. I didn't read the bio to see if there was some reason for the match up like there was for Cyclonus/Galvatronus. Maybe they will tie the name into some type of beta test for the real deal Computron?
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Outside of Masterpiece and 3rd party? No, not a single thing.
Strike that, I do want Skylynx.
Comment by Ironhidensh
Jan 3, 2016
william-james88 wrote:Noideaforaname wrote:So, are you guys pumped for Victorion and 2016?
Nooo....
Is there anything in 2016 that interests you?
Outside of Masterpiece and 3rd party? No, not a single thing.
Strike that, I do want Skylynx.