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crash8burnt wrote:Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

Well here is the thing.

G1 is dead


It has been since the line ended back in the 1990s, everything that has come afterwards has been it's own thing.

Now there have been some series that have used G1 like designs for it's characters like Animated and the Idw comics but the thing is tgat isn't G1 either.

No matter what the reboot would be like, no matter ehat year it takes place in, no matter what 80s vehicles it uses, it will never be the G1 masterpiece fans demand.

So all this movie could ever be is a good movie, it was never not will ever be a G1 movie.

I didn't ask for it to be G1. I just wanted Starscream to be part of this. and that jet looks 100% like Starscream. I'll wait for the DVD release as I have the last two movies - unless things change at a later time that piques my interest in the bumblebee movie again.

im baffled at the blitzwing decision considering Ramjet is RIGHT there looking the part to a tee as much as starscream does.

TBH im thinking theyre trolling us.

ZeroWolf wrote:This could be a similar situation to devestator/brawl in the first movie. I mean looks aside, which sounds better? Ramjet or blitzwing.

partholon wrote:im baffled at the blitzwing decision considering Ramjet is RIGHT there looking the part to a tee as much as starscream does.

TBH im thinking theyre trolling us.

Or it's just another nameslap because that's how the franchise operates?

Who cares if it's Starscream if he (possible fate from people who saw early screenings) dies in the movie?

Deadput wrote:

crash8burnt wrote:Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

Well here is the thing.

G1 is dead


It has been since the line ended back in the 1990s, everything that has come afterwards has been it's own thing.

Now there have been some series that have used G1 like designs for it's characters like Animated and the Idw comics but the thing is tgat isn't G1 either.

No matter what the reboot would be like, no matter ehat year it takes place in, no matter what 80s vehicles it uses, it will never be the G1 masterpiece fans demand.

So all this movie could ever be is a good movie, it was never not will ever be a G1 movie.

This guy gets it I have been saying it for years when people complain bots don’t big blocky and ironhide isn’t van, I have been sayin it different way for years people don’t most movie designs but they prime as firtruck, and ironhide as hummer with radar dish for head in transformer energon no one complained, same with megatron as jet in that series,. Shockwave and grimlock never ever had mouth in cartoons not all bots need have human faces they are aliens from another planet not from earth

ZeroWolf wrote:You wanted him to be Starscream even given the rumoured fate?

To be frank, Starscream always dies so its no skin off my back in that regard - I don't like it, but I am used to it.

I just saw a great marriage of two concepts - which got me excited. Finally the intricate realism of a live action transformer, with aspects drawn from the cartoon. face, colouration, wings, and maybe two sticky-uppy things (or not) at the shoulder. (I can't tell in the original trailer if those are there) but there were wing-stripes, the colours, the face - its Starscream. There is enough there for me to recognise him. with exception to machine wars and BW2, most series have maintained some character qualities to the Character. This was the first time the Movies had a character that had recognisable characteristics - and I am being told its not him.

That character was always the Starscream I had hoped we'd get.

If they are purposefully trolling the potential viewers, then I am not impressed. I'll wait and see. If its screamer I will try to see it in theater. if its not, I will pick it up when ever it gets released.

Prowl4 wrote:People up in arms about the starscream/blitzwing thing have totally over looked that the director said that the female lead gives him the name bumblebee. That's actually embarrassing. I won't bother with this movie knowing that.

So glad to have you join the discussion as always.

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Deadput wrote:

crash8burnt wrote:Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie. There were all the hypes at first when Bee is going to be a beetle and with Prowl being probably in the movie. After the 1st trailer with the pic of the jet, people are so excited as that is a very nice representation of G1 Starscream.
However, I'm already scratching my head when Shatter and Dropkick are announced.. How the heck do these punks fit in? Well, alright, since Knight wanted a car chase, which is a good idea, and there weren't many cons that are on wheels, so fine. At least, we got Starscream. SS Vs BB is the hype. But there is no way you can pitch BB with Blitzwing and create a smooth G1 story which can follow through.
Create another story to have Blitzwing to face off the likes of Springer and Sandstorm, and leave him out of this movie. Bring in Starscream. This jet fits SS well. It is a good move to move away from those ugly looking insect-head transformers from Bayverse. I can still tolerate with BB's head as Knight does not want to stray too far off the image from the previous movies, even though his face still gives me nightmares that looks like a old grandmother sucking on a pacifier. I was very disappointed that Knight did not want to change the look of it. But if SS is not in the film, I find that Knight could also be losing the plot and it could really lead to the demise of the transformers franchise.

A movie with great promise, but in the end, with a cast which will not leave a nice taste on many people's mouth.

Well here is the thing.

G1 is dead


It has been since the line ended back in the 1990s, everything that has come afterwards has been it's own thing.

Now there have been some series that have used G1 like designs for it's characters like Animated and the Idw comics but the thing is tgat isn't G1 either.

No matter what the reboot would be like, no matter ehat year it takes place in, no matter what 80s vehicles it uses, it will never be the G1 masterpiece fans demand.

So all this movie could ever be is a good movie, it was never not will ever be a G1 movie.

I didn't ask for it to be G1. I just wanted Starscream to be part of this. and that jet looks 100% like Starscream. I'll wait for the DVD release as I have the last two movies - unless things change at a later time that piques my interest in the bumblebee movie again.

That’s right, u hit the nail! Let me rephrase my points-

- The jet has got a very G1 modernised Starscream look. So Knight should go with SS, not Blitzwing.

- All successful franchise films start with a cast with strong characters, not weak ones. In Transformers, strong character bots like Optimus Prime against Megatron , and Bumblebee against Starscream, will make it a hit among fans. After which, then u introduce other fringe characters to expand the story line. BB against Blitzwing or Dropkick or Shatter will not make the cut. These guys are sidekicks.

- A KNIGHT will not have the integrity to bash up a lady. Shatter..who? Seriously? Would u want to see a hero like Bee bashing up a girl? C’mon, give us a good healthy start of having Bee against 3 recognisable cons. Bring in the ladies in the next episode.. but not Shatter..who? A female bot (Arcee?) against a female con (Nightbird?). Don’t further mess up a fantasy world when our real world is already very messed up.

I am not asking for a G1 storyline, just presentable looking bots that resemble their G1 counterparts. Enough of Bee looking like a ‘granny sucking pacifier’ and insect-fested ugly looking bots. The initial speculations, such as having G1 characters, started really well (like falling in love for the 1st time). A pity it ended in a wrong way (like being dumped). I still believe it can be a good movie with good character development, but a pity Knight has picked the wrong bots which will not leave a deep impression on many of us.

crash8burnt wrote:
- All successful franchise films start with a cast with strong characters, not weak ones. In Transformers, strong character bots like Optimus Prime against Megatron , and Bumblebee against Starscream, will make it a hit among fans. After which, then u introduce other fringe characters to expand the story line. BB against Blitzwing or Dropkick or Shatter will not make the cut. These guys are sidekicks.

Well this franchise isn't even "starting" since even though it's a prequel this is still the 6'th movie regardless, we already got most of the big deal Transformers in the last 5 films. (Only other big character I can think of that hasn't been introduced in the past 5 films is Ultra Magnus, anyone else isn't as recognizable)

I think these guys being "nobodies" is sort of the point, it's Bee by himself he has to fight people at his power level which is even tougher since he is not his power house future self, as it is with 4 Different Decepticons in this film 3 of which are flyers and two of those being triple changers so already I don't see how realistically Bee can fight these guys fair and square without getting crushed.

I'd rather we get a good movie then shove a bunch of characters just for the sake of having specific characters in the movie.

Plus we always need to make up new Decepticons in general because they were always sort of screwed on the numbers front with most of the cast in previous media being just the main leaders like Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave and Shockwave with one or two other guys.

It would be really really dumb if it was Bee VS any of those guys because the only way to make a film where Bee doesn't get crushed is to have the cons be very incompetent in general, characters like Megatron have no business being in a spinoff prequel like this, I don't believe any of the high ranking guys have nothing else better to do then to pay attention to one small Autobot.

crash8burnt wrote:- A KNIGHT will not have the integrity to bash up a lady. Shatter..who? Seriously? Would u want to see a hero like Bee bashing up a girl? C’mon, give us a good healthy start of having Bee against 3 recognisable cons. Bring in the ladies in the next episode.. but not Shatter..who? A female bot (Arcee?) against a female con (Nightbird?). Don’t further mess up a fantasy world when our real world is already very messed up.

I mean that hasn't stopped Bay from killing the Arcee triplets and the Pretender chick in ROTF.

Plus I don't think there really has been hesitance in general with male on female (Or vice versa) violence in the franchise, more so due to the fact these are robots and not humans fighting so by default they can get away with a lot more stuff.

And I don't think Shatter's any sort of damsel that needs to be held back against, she's a villain who is hunting Bumblebee and doesn't even look that feminine in general so I don't think there is going to be any holding back against her.

Last thing, why does it need to be a designated fembot vs fembot fight? Wouldn't it be better to have a few characters who so happens to be a female then just to have a couple of token females with the only purpose to fight each other? Because the latter is rather limiting on story telling potential and is also kinda stereotypical, old and bland by now.

I think shatter will be the one dragging Dropkick around in this