Optimus vs Transit Fight Released to Promote Digital Release of Transformers ROTB

It's been years and years since I popped in a DVD/BD and watch the special features.

Looking forward to seeing the rest of this scene! Transit's design is pretty cool

Quantum Surge wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Optimus: "Where is it!?"

Me: "Where is what?"

It. He means it.

We'll likely hear in the full scene, but a synopsis of the scene had them fighting and Transit taunted Optimus by saying he'd destroyed "it", it being the ship Transit came to earth on. The Decepticons basically sent Transit to mock the fact that Optimus was stuck on Earth and couldn't get back to Cybertron to continue to fight the war.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:

Quantum Surge wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Optimus: "Where is it!?"

Me: "Where is what?"

It. He means it.

We'll likely hear in the full scene, but a synopsis of the scene had them fighting and Transit taunted Optimus by saying he'd destroyed "it", it being the ship Transit came to earth on. The Decepticons basically sent Transit to mock the fact that Optimus was stuck on Earth and couldn't get back to Cybertron to continue to fight the war.

Just imagine how wild it would be if Optimus was talking about the AllSpark.

Or a book not literally starring the lowest US coin filled with wisdom.

Having now seen the full deleted scene, the Transit fight would have been awesome, and the test audiences saying it was "too dark" is utterly ridiculous. Even with the Maximal opening, this could have been in the film.

Ah man this is a real shame to have been left out.

Marks a very clear departure from Bayverse Prime as well (I know they're meant to be the same, but let's be real, the casual audience don't care about detailed continuity anymore); willingness to negotiate and peacefully resolve a conflict, and not in permanent godmode against anyone except the main antagonist.

Helps set a different tone for the movie compared all the predecessors (barring TF1 and Bumblebee).

blackeyedprime wrote:
Felt like an average sequel to the Bee film and seperate to bayverse. Out of three movies with a history museum in it (ww84, eternals and this) maybe slightly below eternals but def better than ww84.

Seriously, worse than Eternals? Respectfully, I wouldn't wipe my butt with the film Eternals was filmed on and found ROTB far more entertaining and coherent. WW84 was horrifically executed, but more entertaining than Eternals.

But again, just my opinion. I'd put ROTB above both of those three.

There was a glimmer of hope that the never ending talks about whether or not the Transformers live action film franchise was rebooting with these newer films would end once Rise of the Beasts came out. But it didn't because the film chose not to be too much of a change stylistically from the other live action Transformers films. Plot wise, connections to other films were kept vague and they even introduced a tool that any writer can use to bring whatever character they want into any point in time (the Transwarp key, which while now destroyed is still around in the past to be picked up and used at any point in time). Some fans have accepted that this wishy washiness and lack of commitment to a full on reboot of the franchise is all intentional on the part of Paramount, but others still want a clear answer.
Well, for those wanting a real answer, Steven Caple Jr has one: Continuity in this franchise DOES NOT MATTER. Even though this is all the same film series, the events will not match up, because each movie or series of movies focuses on their own thing. They should instead be treated as stand-alones. And not just the new films, but the previous Bay films too. Below is the transcript of that part of the interview, within the Empire Podcast Spoiler Special with Steven Caple Jr, where continuity is discussed.

Interviewer: In terms of the continuity of the franchise, are you worried about matching it up with the first Bay film, which suggests that Optimus has never been to earth before…
Caple Jr: … But now it’s kinda broken already. For me, I’m not like fully worried about it. There are things I would love to stay within that line, but at a certain point, we all know it, Bay has admitted it, I had certain conversations with him like, in terms of tracking the storyline by movie 3, 4 and 5 (5 specifically i would say), now it’s kinda like …
Interviewer: … they were freestyling it
Caple Jr: They were freestyling. Unicron is planet earth, it was things like that. Cool conceptually but that’s a lot to unravel and will we ever see Unicron? Cause now it’s Earth. Probably a reason why they stopped right there. So like, for me, I’m not worried about it, it’s about what’s best for the movie. For me, I have my classics. We got movie 1 with Sam witwicky, it’s a classic. Then we got 3, some of the best action I’ve seen in any movie, best Transformers battles, like it was really good. Those are the movies, they’re like stand-alones. For us, we just make sure about our story and if it tracks through each one [we make]. If we try to hold ourselves to what another storyline/ timeline was, we’d definitely be in trouble. Cause at a certain point, I don’t think anyone knew exactly where they were going with 4 and 5.

What you just read is the new official take on the matter of continuity: that it does not matter. You'll see that the word reboot is not uttered because that's not what anyone making these films want to convey either. This film, Bumblebee, AOE, TLK, and the initial trilogy are all their own stories within the same franchise, but with no need to connect perfectly to eachother. They are all constant (soft) reboots in their own way, if you want to see it that way, but also all (soft) reboots of Bayverse. So the Bayverse is far from dead, it is instead fragmented, and anything can happen from here on out. So have fun with that take.

This is silly and why Transformers up untill now is still just silly action fun and a toy commercial.

I would love for a team to take Transformers seriously and of course for them to be competent (unlike the netflix show, my god the writing is some of the worst I've ever seen).

Transformers needs a reboot, and a different top management. The same buttfaces are still in charge of the movie franchise and as long as they are there, all Transformers movies will suffer.

Lore Keeper wrote:"We're not concerned with continuity" is writer speak for "We're not competent enough to write a compelling serialized story, so we'll just make a bunch of unconnected stories about whatever we want."

Exactly. The MCU was able to do it for over a decade, and it's still going. So why can't Transformers?