Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Deluxe Groove In-Package Picture
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Fellow staffer WilliamJames88 sent a quick update of a few renders of CW Deluxe Groove in. These are via Facebook user TFND.
So, what do you think? Is this a tell-tale sign of a wider release? Sound off in the discussion below.
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Posted by Cobotron on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:15pm CDT
carytheone wrote:So, what do you think?
This is a tell-tale sign of a wider release.
Posted by Autobot N on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:17pm CDT
Also, I agree with the wide-release sentiment.
Posted by no-one on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:17pm CDT
DittoCobotron wrote:carytheone wrote:So, what do you think?
This is a tell-tale sign of a wider release.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:23pm CDT
Autobot N wrote:How Defensor got his Groove back.
Also, I agree with the wide-release sentiment.
Oh the puns around here!

And I bet a lot of people will be happy if this is a wider release. Definitely an interesting development

Posted by william-james88 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:23pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:carytheone wrote:So, what do you think?
This is a tell-tale sign of a wider release.
The real shock would be if it didnt. This is clearly a Hasbro product and designed for release in northamerica, hence why they EVEN INCLUDE FRENCH ON THE BOX!
I hope this will at least be released in canada this time though, since they actually made that extra effort. If not, I hope I can rely on you Cobo to help me out

Now I am really not sure of getting Takara's Bruticus. I could ust get the Hasbro with the limbs on sale and wait for them to release shuttle blastoff (which is what i did with Groove here and it seems like it will pay off).
Posted by Cobotron on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:24pm CDT
Sorry, quoting myself from a different thread.carytheone wrote:DittoCobotron wrote:carytheone wrote:So, what do you think?
This is a tell-tale sign of a wider release.
Cobotron wrote:Thanks! I know what it is. My point is you don't put out the resources and time into all that packaging to produce 500-1000 units for give aways. I'm thinking it's a good bet Groove is headed our way.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:25pm CDT
Posted by Autobot N on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:27pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Autobot N wrote:How Defensor got his Groove back.
Also, I agree with the wide-release sentiment.
Oh the puns around here!![]()
And I bet a lot of people will be happy if this is a wider release. Definitely an interesting development
I couldn't resist.
Also, I really hope that I'll be able to get him, unlike how Quickslinger eluded me.
Posted by william-james88 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:31pm CDT
Cobotron wrote: My point is you don't put out the resources and time into all that packaging to produce 500-1000 units for give aways. I'm thinking it's a good bet Groove is headed our way.
Right, because this packaging was a wide release


I know I know, these werent giveaways
Posted by Autobot N on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:32pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote: My point is you don't put out the resources and time into all that packaging to produce 500-1000 units for give aways. I'm thinking it's a good bet Groove is headed our way.
Right, because this packaging was a wide release![]()
I know I know, these werent giveaways
That seems different. Since those are convention exclusives, of course their going to design a box to make them look attractive.
Posted by Cobotron on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:45pm CDT
Scratchy scratchy, backy backy!william-james88 wrote: I hope I can rely on you Cobo to help me out

Edit: N, I think Billy was just ribbin' me.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:48pm CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:it would've been cool if this were a CW Sideswipe
How would G2 Vortex's tail rotor assembly make a good Sideswipe? It has neither sides nor swipes.
Posted by Autobot N on March 23rd, 2016 @ 12:50pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:it would've been cool if this were a CW Sideswipe
How would G2 Vortex's tail rotor assembly make a good Sideswipe? It has neither sides nor swipes.
Pretty sure he's talking about the MP Road Rage behind said Vortex.
Posted by DeathReviews on March 23rd, 2016 @ 1:09pm CDT

Posted by autobot00 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 1:26pm CDT
Posted by autobot00 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 1:34pm CDT
http://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/co ... ner=groove
Now we wait for Bruticus to show up on the website to see what they show.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 23rd, 2016 @ 1:38pm CDT

Posted by william-james88 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 1:46pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If that site is anything to go by, I really hope they just don't toss Rook out. I wanted him to get some characterization and to actually have a place in transformers. He has potential
That site is a mess made by an intern who couldnt care less. It is nothing to go on since it features artwork from 2 years ago.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 23rd, 2016 @ 1:48pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:If that site is anything to go by, I really hope they just don't toss Rook out. I wanted him to get some characterization and to actually have a place in transformers. He has potential
That site is a mess made by an intern who couldnt care less. It is nothing to go on since it features artwork from 2 years ago.
At least there is that

Posted by Optimum Supreme on March 23rd, 2016 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by kurthy on March 23rd, 2016 @ 3:35pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:I don't mind Rook the way I loathe AB, but I'd definitely toss him into the "unassigned limb" pile if I could get a deluxe Groove.
I think I'll be getting 4 deluxe Groove, a 2nd legends Groove, and a 2nd Hotspot just so I can make a groovy Defensor. Rook is my 2nd favorite mold of CW after Swindle.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 3:55pm CDT

Posted by SureShot18 on March 23rd, 2016 @ 4:42pm CDT
On second thought he'd probably be better than streetwise.

Posted by YoungPrime on March 23rd, 2016 @ 7:47pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:I don't mind Rook the way I loathe AB, but I'd definitely toss him into the "unassigned limb" pile if I could get a deluxe Groove.
I'm quite the opposite. I never bothered buying Rook and use AB as one of Defensor's arm's. But best believe that I'm not buying anymore fake team members in the future.
So if Hasbro tries to get cute again and release Predaking with a Moose limb (Bull Wink-scream) instead of Tantrum or Headstrong then all bets are off!
Posted by kurthy on March 23rd, 2016 @ 8:54pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Optimum Supreme wrote:I don't mind Rook the way I loathe AB, but I'd definitely toss him into the "unassigned limb" pile if I could get a deluxe Groove.
I'm quite the opposite. I never bothered buying Rook and use AB as one of Defensor's arm's. But best believe that I'm not buying anymore fake team members in the future.
So if Hasbro tries to get cute again and release Predaking with a Moose limb (Bull Wink-scream) instead of Tantrum or Headstrong then all bets are off!
I just don't get how anyone can dislike that Rook mold, Hulk hands and all. You can even use two of them as rollerskates for a combiner, which I plan on doing with my son's and mine after I get deluxe Groove.
Posted by steals_your_goats on March 23rd, 2016 @ 8:58pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Optimum Supreme wrote:I don't mind Rook the way I loathe AB, but I'd definitely toss him into the "unassigned limb" pile if I could get a deluxe Groove.
I'm quite the opposite. I never bothered buying Rook and use AB as one of Defensor's arm's. But best believe that I'm not buying anymore fake team members in the future.
So if Hasbro tries to get cute again and release Predaking with a Moose limb (Bull Wink-scream) instead of Tantrum or Headstrong then all bets are off!
Yes how dare Hasbro try something new

Posted by Agamemnon on March 23rd, 2016 @ 9:17pm CDT

Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2016 @ 9:54pm CDT
U.S. packaging for CW Deluxes is monolingual and includes a comic book.
This is more than likely the Taiwan TRU exclusive.
Posted by King Kuuga on March 23rd, 2016 @ 10:44pm CDT
I think all territories should have equal access to this figure.
Posted by Zeedust on March 23rd, 2016 @ 10:59pm CDT
kurthy wrote:Optimum Supreme wrote:I don't mind Rook the way I loathe AB, but I'd definitely toss him into the "unassigned limb" pile if I could get a deluxe Groove.
I think I'll be getting 4 deluxe Groove, a 2nd legends Groove, and a 2nd Hotspot just so I can make a groovy Defensor. Rook is my 2nd favorite mold of CW after Swindle.
So your first and second favorite molds are the same mold?
And if you really do that, post pictures please.
Posted by Broadside1992 on March 24th, 2016 @ 5:52am CDT

Posted by kurthy on March 24th, 2016 @ 6:46am CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:kurthy wrote:Optimum Supreme wrote:I don't mind Rook the way I loathe AB, but I'd definitely toss him into the "unassigned limb" pile if I could get a deluxe Groove.
I think I'll be getting 4 deluxe Groove, a 2nd legends Groove, and a 2nd Hotspot just so I can make a groovy Defensor. Rook is my 2nd favorite mold of CW after Swindle.
So your first and second favorite molds are the same mold?
And if you really do that, post pictures please.
Yes, but I would say there are a lot of differences between the remoldings that make them very different toys.
If I get four of them, I will post a picture with that Defensor having Rook feet as well.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on March 24th, 2016 @ 6:50am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:I want to see a Moose Predacon...
the closest your gonna get to that is RID Thunderhoof

Posted by mooncake623 on March 24th, 2016 @ 9:03am CDT

Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2016 @ 9:04am CDT
I guess Hasbro aint waiting for Blastoff

Posted by Lunatic Prime on March 24th, 2016 @ 9:41am CDT

Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2016 @ 9:44am CDT
Lunatic Prime wrote:So there's good chance to get Takara Blast Off from, too?!
Its still tricky because thats the only one where Hasbro has no interest in bringing the mold over to complete a G2 set. They really beleive their Blast Off to be as good a Blast Off as your gonna get:

Posted by Randomhero on March 24th, 2016 @ 9:48am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:08am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:So there's good chance to get Takara Blast Off from, too?!
Its still tricky because thats the only one where Hasbro has no interest in bringing the mold over to complete a G2 set. They really beleive their Blast Off to be as good a Blast Off as your gonna get:
I still have no issues with blast off being a jet. He looks good to me.
By the did you already do a top combiners editorial? I can't remember
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:19am CDT
Randomhero wrote:I still have no issues with blast off being a jet. He looks good to me.
By the did you already do a top combiners editorial? I can't remember
I dont think Blast Off being a jet is bad at all, especially when combienr wars is a G1 redux. But the G2 sets are clearly about using the molds which best represent the G2 toys so having Blastoff be a jet there just makes him a redeco of the normal retail G1 redux version, which is different from every other G2 set. So it kind of breaks the theme.
And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest

Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.
PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do

Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:26am CDT
Posted by kurthy on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:28am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest. I do have a top 5 best G1 combiners in the pipeline, which talks about both Hasbro and Takara. I dont know if I should doanother list as top 5 combiner wars combiners or simply best combiners post G1. Its a bit tough. All of these combiner Wars combiners beat FOC Bruticus (right?), do they beat every other combiner too? Like Landfall? Would BW Tripedicus be the only non CW/UW combiner on this post G1 list? The fact that CW/UW isnt over makes it hard for me to figure it out.
Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.
PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do
I think a best re-shell list would be interesting, but good combiners have been hard to come by. Would you include Unicron trilogy combiners in that list if they ranked high enough?
Posted by Randomhero on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:34am CDT
kurthy wrote:william-james88 wrote:
And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest. I do have a top 5 best G1 combiners in the pipeline, which talks about both Hasbro and Takara. I dont know if I should doanother list as top 5 combiner wars combiners or simply best combiners post G1. Its a bit tough. All of these combiner Wars combiners beat FOC Bruticus (right?), do they beat every other combiner too? Like Landfall? Would BW Tripedicus be the only non CW/UW combiner on this post G1 list? The fact that CW/UW isnt over makes it hard for me to figure it out.
Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.
PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do
I think a best re-shell list would be interesting, but good combiners have been hard to come by. Would you include Unicron trilogy combiners in that list if they ranked high enough?
Oh there's plenty of good combiners that are not G1. The original RID had some good ones, beast wars, even animated has a decent one(whatever that jetfire/jet storm dudes name was)
Posted by Autobot N on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:35am CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:EVERYTHING IS BETTER THAN FOC BRUTICUS.
This is an odd situation. I am inclined to agree with Nem here, but the Golden Rule of Seibertron is to not take Nemesis Maximo seriously. What should I do?
Anyway, as soon as Groove shows up on BBTS, I'm preordering that sucker, whether my parents let me or not. I don't want another Quickslinger situation.
Posted by Shuttershock on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:36am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:I still have no issues with blast off being a jet. He looks good to me.
By the did you already do a top combiners editorial? I can't remember
I dont think Blast Off being a jet is bad at all, especially when combienr wars is a G1 redux. But the G2 sets are clearly about using the molds which best represent the G2 toys so having Blastoff be a jet there just makes him a redeco of the normal retail G1 redux version, which is different from every other G2 set. So it kind of breaks the theme.
And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest. I do have a top 5 best G1 combiners in the pipeline, which talks about both Hasbro and Takara. I dont know if I should doanother list as top 5 combiner wars combiners or simply best combiners post G1. Its a bit tough. All of these combiner Wars combiners beat FOC Bruticus (right?), do they beat every other combiner too? Like Landfall? Would BW Tripedicus be the only non CW/UW combiner on this post G1 list? The fact that CW/UW isnt over makes it hard for me to figure it out.
Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.
PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do
An obvious thought, I know, but perhaps a list of worst/least liked combiners might work as a nice juxtaposition. Or even just combiner methods that while admirable didn't hold up (PCC, powerlinxing, FOC plug ports, etc.)?
Posted by kurthy on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:46am CDT
Randomhero wrote:kurthy wrote:william-james88 wrote:
And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest. I do have a top 5 best G1 combiners in the pipeline, which talks about both Hasbro and Takara. I dont know if I should doanother list as top 5 combiner wars combiners or simply best combiners post G1. Its a bit tough. All of these combiner Wars combiners beat FOC Bruticus (right?), do they beat every other combiner too? Like Landfall? Would BW Tripedicus be the only non CW/UW combiner on this post G1 list? The fact that CW/UW isnt over makes it hard for me to figure it out.
Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.
PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do
I think a best re-shell list would be interesting, but good combiners have been hard to come by. Would you include Unicron trilogy combiners in that list if they ranked high enough?
Oh there's plenty of good combiners that are not G1. The original RID had some good ones, beast wars, even animated has a decent one(whatever that jetfire/jet storm dudes name was)
The only one I remember from RID that wasn't a G1 redeco was OP and UM (which I loved when I had it before I sold him over 10 years ago). Beast wars was pretty much Tripedicus and the maximal one, right? I never got the animated one because I wasn't collecting at the time, but I've not heard great things about it. Which always begs the question, do you include just two robots in a combiner or do you need more of a team?
Posted by Randomhero on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:51am CDT
kurthy wrote:Randomhero wrote:kurthy wrote:william-james88 wrote:
And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest. I do have a top 5 best G1 combiners in the pipeline, which talks about both Hasbro and Takara. I dont know if I should doanother list as top 5 combiner wars combiners or simply best combiners post G1. Its a bit tough. All of these combiner Wars combiners beat FOC Bruticus (right?), do they beat every other combiner too? Like Landfall? Would BW Tripedicus be the only non CW/UW combiner on this post G1 list? The fact that CW/UW isnt over makes it hard for me to figure it out.
Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.
PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do
I think a best re-shell list would be interesting, but good combiners have been hard to come by. Would you include Unicron trilogy combiners in that list if they ranked high enough?
Oh there's plenty of good combiners that are not G1. The original RID had some good ones, beast wars, even animated has a decent one(whatever that jetfire/jet storm dudes name was)
The only one I remember from RID that wasn't a G1 redeco was OP and UM (which I loved when I had it before I sold him over 10 years ago). Beast wars was pretty much Tripedicus and the maximal one, right? I never got the animated one because I wasn't collecting at the time, but I've not heard great things about it. Which always begs the question, do you include just two robots in a combiner or do you need more of a team?
The Trainbots were original as were the autobot combiner that were construction vehicles
Posted by Shuttershock on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:54am CDT
kurthy wrote:Randomhero wrote:kurthy wrote:william-james88 wrote:
And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest. I do have a top 5 best G1 combiners in the pipeline, which talks about both Hasbro and Takara. I dont know if I should doanother list as top 5 combiner wars combiners or simply best combiners post G1. Its a bit tough. All of these combiner Wars combiners beat FOC Bruticus (right?), do they beat every other combiner too? Like Landfall? Would BW Tripedicus be the only non CW/UW combiner on this post G1 list? The fact that CW/UW isnt over makes it hard for me to figure it out.
Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.
PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do
I think a best re-shell list would be interesting, but good combiners have been hard to come by. Would you include Unicron trilogy combiners in that list if they ranked high enough?
Oh there's plenty of good combiners that are not G1. The original RID had some good ones, beast wars, even animated has a decent one(whatever that jetfire/jet storm dudes name was)
The only one I remember from RID that wasn't a G1 redeco was OP and UM (which I loved when I had it before I sold him over 10 years ago). Beast wars was pretty much Tripedicus and the maximal one, right? I never got the animated one because I wasn't collecting at the time, but I've not heard great things about it. Which always begs the question, do you include just two robots in a combiner or do you need more of a team?
RID also had Team Bullet Train forming Rail Racer, similar to Magnaboss and Tripredacus from BW.
If we include 2 member combiners, then technically all of the Energon Autobots apply (though they weren't very good at it).
Posted by kurthy on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:55am CDT
Randomhero wrote:
The Trainbots were original as were the autobot combiner that were construction vehicles
Thanks, I forgot about the awesome trainbots!
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 24th, 2016 @ 10:55am CDT
Oh and will, in animated, the combiner was called Safe Guard who only a few liked (like me who digged his symmetrical docking like combination) he wasn't perfect, but I had fun with him.