Transformers: The Last Knight and other Paramount Films have Incurred "Huge Losses" for Partner Huahua

SnoopDawg wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Barricade concept art looks bad*ss? I definitely prefer the concept over the actual.

Me as well in fact I thought of a way to use both designs that would of made people happy.

The concept art up there would be the actual Barricade




While the one used in the film would become Barricade's Vehicon squad which would be kind of like a real life police squad and there would be around 6-8 of them in the movie...they would be cannon fodder but they would be awesome while being so. and would probably be a reason to have some of the Decepticons survive the movie or at least last until the final battle unlike what happened to them in the movie.



As you can see by the art alone there is some differences between the two designs besides the heads for example Barricade is black and white while the Vehicons would be blue and white, the arm guns are different as well...also if this was my movie only Barricade would have knuckledusters and Barricade would keep his old "To punish and enslave" motto while the Vehicons would have "Keep calm and hail Megatron" that was on Barricade's car later in the film.

Huh while making this post I just noticed the revamped concept art has the rear view being the same colors and design (gun arm) as the first version Josh did but it has the new head.

Damn, that's surprising. Maybe this'll prompt Paramount into giving the movies a different approach?

Kurona wrote:Damn, that's surprising. Maybe this'll prompt Paramount into giving the movies a different approach?

I personally think its because Paramount was relying on this Transformers film to balance out the year's losses so far. So not only did its own budget need to be met, but previous losses too. And as of now, it has barely made back its budget in terms of revenue Paramount is actually getting.

Kurona wrote:Damn, that's surprising. Maybe this'll prompt Paramount into giving the movies a different approach?

Let's certainly hope so. You'd think they would listen to the fans or the declining interest in the movies.

WreckerJack wrote:

Kurona wrote:Damn, that's surprising. Maybe this'll prompt Paramount into giving the movies a different approach?

Let's certainly hope so. You'd think they would listen to the fans or the declining interest in the movies.

It's franchise fatigue...the movies being mediocre just sped up the process that's finally starting to catch up with marvel films like look how Spiderman is doing.

I don't think the movies becoming "great" is going to help much...the awe factor that was around for 2007 and Rotf for Transformers movies being a new and big thing is gone so if a reboot happens all that's really going to happen is.

"Oh hey look another Transformers movie"

When was the last time people got excited for reboots again?

Furio uploaded another angle of the Knight helmet we have seen before so while nothing exciting it's something and I rather get a whole lot of concept art that might be a little repetitive then barely anything that leaves me wanting more.

I like how the eyes look though.



https://www.instagram.com/p/BXYnUAugkRy/?taken-by=furio_tedeschi

[quote="Bronzewolf"]Coming hot off the heels of the Red Knight piece reported on earlier today, we now have a gallery's worth of concept art for Transformers The Last Knight, coming from three artists

Anyone else notice galvatron sittin on the ship next to prime?

https://mobile.twitter.com/thomaspringle1

Clockwork Animations wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:Coming hot off the heels of the Red Knight piece reported on earlier today, we now have a gallery's worth of concept art for Transformers The Last Knight, coming from three artists

Anyone else notice galvatron sittin on the ship next to prime?

https://mobile.twitter.com/thomaspringle1

Yeah the Galvatron and Prime on the poseter are very likely placeholders.

I recognize that Galvatron as a fan made render and the Optimus is from some fan art I think

Deadput wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:

Kurona wrote:Damn, that's surprising. Maybe this'll prompt Paramount into giving the movies a different approach?

Let's certainly hope so. You'd think they would listen to the fans or the declining interest in the movies.

It's franchise fatigue...the movies being mediocre just sped up the process that's finally starting to catch up with marvel films like look how Spiderman is doing.

I honestly think if they took a few years off and did something with a better director they could pull it off.

Maybe Hasbro needs to make some movies of their other properties and once they're established, THEN introduce a rebooted Transformers into their movieverse.

There is one thing that saddens me about all of this. Are the movies good...No they are not. Well I probably give them more credit than most, but I cant deny they are a mess, especially this latest one...

Still there are internet trolls everywhere celebrating the *death* of this franchise. Its not that they want a fresh take on Transformers, they legitimately want it to go away, forever, and sad to say, I can see this happening.

Most fans hope, maybe this will get Paramount to rethink things and start over. But remember, this film franchise is only a decade old. Its more likely to cease completely, which makes me sad.

Poor, Chinese! A business venture is a risk for all partners involved. Bunch of whiney children.

Blackstreak wrote:Poor, Chinese! A business venture is a risk for all partners involved. Bunch of whiney children.

The Chinese ain't the only ones that are disappointed. The Last Knight did a good deal worse then was expected financially, and it was projected to be one of the lowest of the franchise. Also, they invested 1 BILLION DOLLARS. That's not a little bit of money. I'd say they have the right to be a bit so-called 'whiney'. If I loaned someone a billion dollars, I'd be pissy too if I didn't get it back.

o.supreme wrote:There is one thing that saddens me about all of this. Are the movies good...No they are not. Well I probably give them more credit than most, but I cant deny they are a mess, especially this latest one...

Still there are internet trolls everywhere celebrating the *death* of this franchise. Its not that they want a fresh take on Transformers, they legitimately want it to go away, forever, and sad to say, I can see this happening.

Most fans hope, maybe this will get Paramount to rethink things and start over. But remember, this film franchise is only a decade old. Its more likely to cease completely, which makes me sad.

This is unfortunately very true. I've seen it all over the place. People wanting the franchise to go away. However, the movies are all they see. The franchise goes further beyond the movies. The shows and to a much lesser degree, the comics, often have to ride on the success of these movies. If the movie franchise goes away, along with the audience they have and bring, I think it may signal the decline of the entire brand.

I like hearing good news about Transformers, but I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of the 'Bayverse' films. They're too formulaic for my taste, too predictable. Bay has a number of gimmicks that he's known for in his movies, and for Transformers in particular he seems to be going through a playbook step by step. And in the most recent movie, they put more emphasis on camera movement and rotation than on good writing. Just being in an IMAX theater doesn't mean people will like it.

And what's the deal with having the actors either screaming at the top of their lungs, or mumbling/muttering so low under their breath, that you can't understand a word they're saying? It isn't just Transformers doing that either, it's in lots of films and TV shows. It's like the writers gave up on having the characters actually saying anything and just have them mumble to cover up the fact that what they're saying really isn't very interesting.

DeathReviews wrote:And what's the deal with having the actors either screaming at the top of their lungs, or mumbling/muttering so low under their breath, that you can't understand a word they're saying? It isn't just Transformers doing that either, it's in lots of films and TV shows. It's like the writers gave up on having the characters actually saying anything and just have them mumble to cover up the fact that what they're saying really isn't very interesting.

To be fair this has kind of been happening forever...it's just been happening more lately.

I have sensitive ears (my definition of loud noise is probably more then other people's) and while I can hear the "noise" well enough I still have trouble understanding what words are being said sometimes and the biggest problem?

The damn music is always louder then anything else...thank god for the video games that allow me turn down the music a bunch and raise the voices.

I also don't think it's a writers thing most of the time it's either on the Actors making stuff up that isn't in the script to begin with or a director telling the actors to say other things.

The Pringles man has uploaded a couple more pieces of art.

The Talisman which is...a uh talisman nothing else to really say about it.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BXZBwykjMA2/?taken-by=pringleart


Megatron in jet form flying across the desert which is presumably based off the scene where Megatron meets Lennox and the Trf.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXZDbR4DxJ5/?taken-by=pringleart


Hopefully this doesn't come across as me telling you guys on how to do your job but instead of making a post everyday about a couple bits of art I would wait about a week and then make a big post with everything in it that way more people will notice the post and it won't clutter up the main page and it will be easier for people to find these in the future instead of going through post after post to find a couple of specific pieces.

I talked to Josh Nizzi briefly and I know he is going to upload other stuff like for example the prison Decepticons and Josh seems to be going on a "upload one a day" schedule...I did suggest for him to do that in the comments for the WW2 Bumblebee post so it would generate hype.

Deadput wrote:The Pringles man has uploaded a couple more pieces of art.

The Talisman which is...a uh talisman nothing else to really say about it.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BXZBwykjMA2/?taken-by=pringleart


Megatron in jet form flying across the desert which is presumably based off the scene where Megatron meets Lennox and the Trf.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXZDbR4DxJ5/?taken-by=pringleart


Hopefully this doesn't come across as me telling you guys on how to do your job but instead of making a post everyday about a couple bits of art I would wait about a week and then make a big post with everything in it that way more people will notice the post and it won't clutter up the main page and it will be easier for people to find these in the future instead of going through post after post to find a couple of specific pieces.

I talked to Josh Nizzi briefly and I know he is going to upload other stuff like for example the prison Decepticons and Josh seems to be going on a "upload one a day" schedule...I did suggest for him to do that in the comments for the WW2 Bumblebee post so it would generate hype.

Appreciate the imput, Deadput, that's a good idea. I don't think any of us expected this much, so that might be what we do going forward, if this keeps up.

Good. Hopefully it puts a nail in the Bay coffin. HasBLO should get their fingers slammed in the door too on their way out.

User897 wrote:Good. Hopefully it puts a nail in the Bay coffin. HasBLO should get their fingers slammed in the door too on their way out.

A fantastic idea man I bet they want to work extra hard just for you now.../s

Hasbro is basically one half of why Transformers exist...this would be like you hoping one of your parents gets hurt for not buying the toy you wanted.

Deadput wrote:I talked to Josh Nizzi briefly and I know he is going to upload other stuff like for example the prison Decepticons and Josh seems to be going on a "upload one a day" schedule...I did suggest for him to do that in the comments for the WW2 Bumblebee post so it would generate hype.

Hype, sure but that will definitely cause a strain on newsing stuff. If thats what he is dead set on, then I might just wait a week and do a weekly "what new stuff has he posted?" article.

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:I talked to Josh Nizzi briefly and I know he is going to upload other stuff like for example the prison Decepticons and Josh seems to be going on a "upload one a day" schedule...I did suggest for him to do that in the comments for the WW2 Bumblebee post so it would generate hype.

Hype, sure but that will definitely cause a strain on newsing stuff. If thats what he is dead set on, then I might just wait a week and do a weekly "what new stuff has he posted?" article.

I mean I doubt I made him make that decision but it probably made him confirm his choice was the right one.

But yeah I'll continue to post the concept art here as they come. (Unless someone beats me to the punch because I'm sleeping or doing out doing things)

Man this Pepsi fire Cinnamon Slurpee sucks.

DeathReviews wrote:I like hearing good news about Transformers, but I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of the 'Bayverse' films. They're too formulaic for my taste, too predictable. Bay has a number of gimmicks that he's known for in his movies, and for Transformers in particular he seems to be going through a playbook step by step. And in the most recent movie, they put more emphasis on camera movement and rotation than on good writing. Just being in an IMAX theater doesn't mean people will like it...

What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.

The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.


Are kids really buying movie toys? Is there anyway to tell? They seem to be constantly in stock at my local stores, while generations are sold out.

With Transformers: The Last Knight finally also opening in the last remaining country - Japan - the official Transformers Twitter account for that market has shown some colorised version of the posters that Paramount had used for the promotion of the movie too. You can check out Megatron, Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and Hound below!

ricemazter wrote:What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.

Because business people, Transformers wasn't as big as Star Wars or Marvel and it hasn't been around as long so it did not have the luxury of having as many fans in that span of time.

Back in G1 Mr Donald Glut was a writer on the G1 cartoon who had this to say about the G1 show. (according to the wiki)

Donald Glut wrote:"No one, not even the story editors, looked at these scripts very carefully. I seem to remember the show being on a really tight schedule, and we had to crank these scripts out fast. I wrote some of them in a single day, first draft, and they went almost immediately to the storyboard artists after Bryce or an assistant gave them a rather cursory read. We were not trying to create art, just get them done fast, and get paid... None of the writing on this series, in my opinion, was good or passionate or, sometimes (my own included, like The Autobot Run) even adequate. But we got paid well for writing them fast.... I was never a fan of any of the characters."

About Soundwave's death what are you expecting some sort of reaction from the Decepticons like "Noooo Soundwave!" right on the battlefield?

Movie wise outside of the main couple villains the Decepticons will never be treated in the same fashon as the Autobots heck look at Marvel and how many of their villains...suck and are killed off in the same movie their introduced and if not then the next movie their in.

Outside of Star wars and if you count horror movies villains don't really sell.

ricemazter wrote:The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.

From what I heard years ago specifically for teenage boys at least back around ROTF. (The Marvel films while not as crude are also guilty of these things like have you guys seen the Guardians of the Galaxy film especially the new one with not even just innuendos but also rather blunt straight to the point jokes?)

Not exactly wrong either since Teenagers of my generation were rather...uh "crazy" even in middle school so the films should be up their alley.

And why make a robot action film if it has boring uninteresting action we see in other movies? It's robots man ya gotta go all out or go home!

Damn I liked these posters in greyscale but I loooove them in bright colour! I need paper versions on my walls, pronto!

ricemazter wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:I like hearing good news about Transformers, but I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of the 'Bayverse' films. They're too formulaic for my taste, too predictable. Bay has a number of gimmicks that he's known for in his movies, and for Transformers in particular he seems to be going through a playbook step by step. And in the most recent movie, they put more emphasis on camera movement and rotation than on good writing. Just being in an IMAX theater doesn't mean people will like it...

What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.

The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.


Are kids really buying movie toys? Is there anyway to tell? They seem to be constantly in stock at my local stores, while generations are sold out.

Well most kids I know who are transformers fans are fans due to the movies. and of course the movies are for kids, like most parents from what iv gathered and seen don't care what games or movies their kids play/watch. so even if the tf movies don't seem like their safe for kids. their parents will most likely still bring them to see the movies. again from what I gathered and seen and younger tf fans I met love the movies. Also I do notice the bayformer toys are shelf-warmers, but do you know who is not a shelf-warmer and I never seem to be able to find in Wal-Mart is bumblebee...

Stealth Claw wrote:

ricemazter wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:I like hearing good news about Transformers, but I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of the 'Bayverse' films. They're too formulaic for my taste, too predictable. Bay has a number of gimmicks that he's known for in his movies, and for Transformers in particular he seems to be going through a playbook step by step. And in the most recent movie, they put more emphasis on camera movement and rotation than on good writing. Just being in an IMAX theater doesn't mean people will like it...

What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.

The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.


Are kids really buying movie toys? Is there anyway to tell? They seem to be constantly in stock at my local stores, while generations are sold out.

Well most kids I know who are transformers fans are fans due to the movies. and of course the movies are for kids, like most parents from what iv gathered and seen don't care what games or movies their kids play/watch. so even if the tf movies don't seem like their safe for kids. their parents will most likely still bring them to see the movies. again from what I gathered and seen and younger tf fans I met love the movies. Also I do notice the bayformer toys are shelf-warmers, but do you know who is not a shelf-warmer and I never seem to be able to find in Wal-Mart is bumblebee...

All Transformers lines have their heavy shelfwarmers not just movie. As stated elsewhere there's TONS of Titans Returns stuff clogging up shelves including those at my nearest toy stores. So many Wave 3 deluxe TR figures (mostly Hot Rod, Twinferno and Triggerhappy), still a lot of Blurr and Scourge from earlier waves and lots of Broadsides, Megatrons and Optimus Primes and small Legends stuff lke Bumblebee, Wheelie (so many Wheelies) and Stripes. A lot of RID stuff such as Deployers on shelves too. And until recently a crapload of Combiner Wars figures were shelfwarming like crazy too (particularly the Deluxes like Wheeljack, Prowl and Smokescreen and Voyagers such as Cyclonus, Scattershot and Onslaught and a lot of Legends class Wreck Gars and Skywarps)

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Stealth Claw wrote:

ricemazter wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:I like hearing good news about Transformers, but I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of the 'Bayverse' films. They're too formulaic for my taste, too predictable. Bay has a number of gimmicks that he's known for in his movies, and for Transformers in particular he seems to be going through a playbook step by step. And in the most recent movie, they put more emphasis on camera movement and rotation than on good writing. Just being in an IMAX theater doesn't mean people will like it...

What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.

The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.


Are kids really buying movie toys? Is there anyway to tell? They seem to be constantly in stock at my local stores, while generations are sold out.

Well most kids I know who are transformers fans are fans due to the movies. and of course the movies are for kids, like most parents from what iv gathered and seen don't care what games or movies their kids play/watch. so even if the tf movies don't seem like their safe for kids. their parents will most likely still bring them to see the movies. again from what I gathered and seen and younger tf fans I met love the movies. Also I do notice the bayformer toys are shelf-warmers, but do you know who is not a shelf-warmer and I never seem to be able to find in Wal-Mart is bumblebee...

All Transformers lines have their heavy shelfwarmers not just movie. As stated elsewhere there's TONS of Titans Returns stuff clogging up shelves including those at my nearest toy stores. So many Wave 3 deluxe TR figures (mostly Hot Rod, Twinferno and Triggerhappy), still a lot of Blurr and Scourge from earlier waves and lots of Broadsides, Megatrons and Optimus Primes and small Legends stuff lke Bumblebee, Wheelie (so many Wheelies) and Stripes. A lot of RID stuff such as Deployers on shelves too. And until recently a crapload of Combiner Wars figures were shelfwarming like crazy too (particularly the Deluxes like Wheeljack, Prowl and Smokescreen and Voyagers such as Cyclonus, Scattershot and Onslaught and a lot of Legends class Wreck Gars and Skywarps)

I wish we had that amount of shelf-warming here in Canada, onslaught never showed up in the wal-marts near me. entire waves didn't even show up in our wal-marts. CW Devy didn't even show in Wal-Mart, so sad (ps. im looking for a cw devy haha)

Huahua? And they want Paramount to gibe monie? You can't make this stuff up!

Stealth Claw wrote: CW Devy didn't even show in Wal-Mart, so sad (ps. im looking for a cw devy haha)

CW Devy didn't show up anywhere here. I only have one because I ordered it from BBTS.

The only place any CW set showed up was at clearance at TJMaxx/Marshalls, and even then the only one I ever saw was Menasor.

WORST
MOVIE
EVER

worse than Gigili and Freddy Got Fingered
COMBINED

Not going to see TF'17 until it comes out on tv on FX or Spike or I can borrow DVD from the library. Seen too many reviewers on Youtube having barely anything good to say about it. I'm not being influence by reviewers; paid my cinema money. Except for TF'07, regretted paying every penny used to watch them.
BTW, went to see TF'07 twice.

Nice posters.

Offtopic:

To bad only Bumblebee had some time in the movie. Barely Megatron, practically no Hound and no Optimus.

Anybody else feel like that's false advertising?

They should've had posters of Mark, Sir Hopkins, T*ts and *ss lady, Cogman and Bumblebee only. Because those are the characters you're going to see in the movie.

william-james88 wrote:An exclusive article from Variety tells that Paramount's film financing partner Huahua, a media company based in China, is angry at "losing tens of millions of dollars on a $1 billion slate-financing deal with Paramount Pictures".

Yes, eat that movie making company. Hope those guys are angry, they should be angry at themselves. For making such a terrible movie and thinking everyone's going to eat it 3 times in cinemas and go crazy about it.

I hope they learn, kick Bay of the team, start anew years later.

And quit with the, Transformers have been around longer than you think, conveluted nonsense. Just quit it.

noctorro wrote:I hope they learn, kick Bay of the team, start anew years later.

Yup stat anew a couple years later and watch this exact situation happen again!

I don't think there is a magic director who will redeem the movies...partially because no one else really wants to touch this franchise now with the reputation it has and also because Hasbro can make some dumb decisions sometimes when it tries to be more then a toy company.

Hasbro..?

A new knight rises! (Via Furio once again)



https://www.instagram.com/p/BXfmxgmFIl5/?taken-by=furio_tedeschi

Looks to be Dragonicus.

Sabrblade wrote:Looks to be Dragonicus.

Well their all just names made up for the toyline anyways.

All the designs are reused at least once or twice for other Knights...even the red knight is just an edited one with unique shoulders and colors.

The Pringles man uploaded another piece...this time it's Megatron looking at the "ship" that Bee and Prime fight on.

Presumbly this happens Right before he and Nitro Zeus attack Optimus and steal the staff...
which probably means that they were watching the battle which is how they knew Optimus was freed from evil so soon.



https://www.instagram.com/p/BXgrzFojACN/?taken-by=pringleart


And a new one with Merlin's tomb.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BXg4sYlDjd8/?taken-by=pringleart

Wesley Burt who uploaded the art for Canopy when he was a train and the uh nightmarish Daytrader face has uploaded some more art this time it's an early concept for "Bulldog" the old tank guard from Burton's castle that used to be a duo!





https://twitter.com/wesburt/status/894745908234956804
https://twitter.com/wesburt/status/894746475611136000
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXhCJjjnQ2N/?taken-by=wes_burt





Boo

Now that Spain and Japan - the last two countries - have also seen the release of Transformers: The Last Knight, even more concept art is making its way to social media from the creators of the concepts for the movie (used or unused, of course). This small round-up collects Furio Tedeschi, Thomas Pringle, and Wes Burt, as they show off some more scenery such as Merlin's Tomb, concepts for Bulldog and the inspiration, and one of the knights who is totally not Dragonicus from leader Dragonstorm. Check it all out below!

I was just heading to sleep but I'm pleasantly surprised to see this roundup post thanks for putting it together Va'al!



Regardless of we think of the movies or their looks I don't think we can deny the hard work, effort and creativity that goes into making these movie's.

Va'al wrote:

My first thought when I saw this image was movieverse Rack N' Ruin.

i would love toys of that tank duo.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Va'al wrote:

My first thought when I saw this image was movieverse Rack N' Ruin.

Kinda like when they revealed Hod rod and everyone said "Thats hot rod!"

They're movie characters. You can look at any duo and say they look like anyone you want. You can look at them and say rumble and frenzy, topspin and twin twist, anyone can fill the bill.

Randomhero wrote:They're movie characters. You can look at any duo and say they look like anyone you want. You can look at them and say rumble and frenzy, topspin and twin twist, anyone can fill the bill.

Well, maybe not Frenzy and Rumble. Probably not Topspin or Twintwist as well.

Though, the tank bot on the right has his arms in the design of Rumble's piledrivers...

Randomhero wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Va'al wrote:

My first thought when I saw this image was movieverse Rack N' Ruin.

Kinda like when they revealed Hod rod and everyone said "Thats hot rod!"

They're movie characters. You can look at any duo and say they look like anyone you want. You can look at them and say rumble and frenzy, topspin and twin twist, anyone can fill the bill.

I don't think so. Rack n' Ruin came to my mind because even though these two aren't conjoined in robot mode they do look like they could possibhly merge together for tank mode (assuming they don't form individual tanks, i know it looks like both have treads but it does sorta look like the right one could form the base of the tank and the left one form the top and turret) and their rough, army look brings to mind those simple badass green Wreckers (at least from Marvel, I can't recall much about them from the IDW stuff). I certainly don't see Rumble/Frenzy or Topspin/Twintwist here at all. Besides, one of each of those pairs has already been in the movies. I'm not saying these could definitely be Rack N' Ruin, but if names were needed that homaged G1 characters in any sorta sense then that would be my first choice. Some movie characters are meant to be recognisable as movieverse equivalents of their G1 counterparts like Optimus Prime and Bumblebee and other movie characters come across as all new ones that just share the name of a G1 character if nothing else. Doesn't make them a bad character at all, and in a lot of cases I prefer the movie character with that name. The Sideswipes only really share a name and the fact they are autobot cars but as much as I loved red lambos when I was a kid, I much prefer the movie character Sideswipe. I just think he's more fun and generally cooler.

Rack n' Ruin came to my mind because even though these two aren't conjoined in robot mode they do look like they could possibhly merge together for tank mode

The one on the left turns into an American tank, the one on the right turns into a British tank. They aren't twins, just allies.

Edit: I'm wrong; both are British.

Left: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Firefly

Right: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_IV_tank

As awful as TLK was I will always appreciate the level of thought and imagination that goes into the concept art. I wish these people were given actually decent material/scriptwriters to work with because these concepts are great. Especially the tank twins.