Video Review for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-08 Computron

basically, buy both and mix and match. i'm sure has/tak didn't plan this at all, and it's just total coincidence that they want you to buy both.

william-james88 wrote:

rockman_fan wrote:basically, buy both and mix and match. i'm sure has/tak didn't plan this at all, and it's just total coincidence that they want you to buy both.

Its not a conspiracy theory dude.

..or is it?

(It's not.)

o.supreme wrote:No its not a conspiracy, but back to the whole lack of cooperation thing. In this day and age when adult fans clearly have access to Takara product, Hasbro developers cant exactly be feeling good, or proud of their work when their sister company does things so much better. If Hasbro is content to produce an inferior product because of cost-to-produce limitations, I think Hasbro needs to fire some people, or just let Takara do all the developing, and Hasbro just releases the toys for the markets they have rights to.

Doesn't that assume Hasbro's target audience is the adult collector? I'd think that Hasbro keeps us in mind, but the target audience is still children....

o.supreme wrote: If Hasbro is content to produce an inferior product because of cost-to-produce limitations, I think Hasbro needs to fire some people, or just let Takara do all the developing, and Hasbro just releases the toys for the markets they have rights to.

I can guarantee you one thing: Hasbro is content with their CW toys

Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.

I'm not sure that this particular 'obsession' isn't a good thing. As an adult collector, I really do appreciate it. But even as a child today, wouldn't you want your RID figurs to have paint jobs and details as close as possible to the show version?s I'm pretty sure I would appreciate it even if I wouldn't care about it as much.

Ultra Mad wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.

I'm not sure that this particular 'obsession' isn't a good thing. As an adult collector, I really do appreciate it. But even as a child today, wouldn't you want your RID figurs to have paint jobs and details as close as possible to the show version?s I'm pretty sure I would appreciate it even if I wouldn't care about it as much.

Of course, but we weren't talking about the RID figures' decos. The differences between UW Computron and CW Computron were the subject in question.

o.supreme wrote:I would think the target audience for Rescue Bots would be Young Children, and for RID would be the 8-12 year range, but obviously Generations is for older fans. Unless you had a parent or older relative who was into Transformers you would have no idea who these characters are because they have no current representation on TV.

Just because there's no fictional representation doesn't mean the main target audience isn't kids. They're sold on the merit of them being good toys and nothing else.
It's true that the Generations line is heavily geared towards older collectors, hence the characters and designs they use, but it's more like they're able to make and sell these toys with the excuse that it'll still appeal to kids. If it was mainly older collectors buying them I doubt it'd be viable for Hasbro.

o.supreme wrote:But suppose The Technobots/Computron was "your" baby...you spent a year or so developing them..put all your heart and soul into it...No doubt *if* Takara & Hasbro were at all communicating as some people believe...and you would no doubt have seen Takara's proposal long before the public did...how would you feel?

They answered that already, and it wasnt all smiles, just straightforward business. They saw what Takara was planning and just went another way, I dont know why we are thinking there is more to it and we dont need to speculate, they say it all right there, just go to the 3:08 minute mark. They also didnt spend too long developing them since they werent even planning on doing them in the first place.




Also, Hasbro made it quite clear who the audience for Generations toys were: 10 and up

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro simply isn't as obsessed with meticulously matching the 30-year-old cartoon's look as Takara is.

Personally, when it comes to G1 Classics stuff, I just want a quality, accurate, fun toy of the cartoon incarnation before they do reinventions of the character. In the case of Computron, now that we have the Unite Warriors box set, which is all three of those things, I'm fine with them doing re-imaginings of the Technobots (such as the CW box set).

Another example...Fortress Maximus. If we had gotten a Titan-sized Fort Max, that was, in terms of appearance, accurate to the cartoon(s), and in terms of engineering, basically the G1 toy with more articulation (and with all of his accessories), I would've been totally fine with the Titans Return toy (I still have that one on my shelf, mind you, but I'm getting all the upgrade kits, and I'm still a bit disappointed with it).

...does that make sense? I'm terrible at explaining things like this...