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The curious case of WTF?!?!

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The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby Urzu Six » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:11 am

So, I gots a Maximal who's one upgrade a way from being in LVL 1. I send him in to fight a 'Con with no upgrades, and my dude gets pwnd. How did that happen? :sad:
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby Wingspan » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:24 am

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Mission / Arena link? Will help give a specific answer. General answer is we play a game with a random number generator behind it; sometimes bad / good things just happen.
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby Psychout » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:40 am

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Wingspan pretty much covered it; weird **** happens at the lower levels, as 3 stats does give you an advantage but wont guarantee you the win, looks like you just lucked out buddy.

Just to be sure though - you have put your stats in either courage, strength, speed or a tactic - right?
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby Urzu Six » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:34 pm

Yup, Strength and Tactics. I'm keeping an eye out for this dude again though... I will have vengeance!
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby Editor » Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:36 pm

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Weird stuff happens under a random system as this game is based on. How else can you explain http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=41706.

A level 3, and 5 level 2s, beaten by one 3, one 2, three 1s and a 0.
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby Wingspan » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:25 pm

Motto: "Death is not the end."
Editor wrote:Weird stuff happens under a random system as this game is based on. How else can you explain http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=41706.

A level 3, and 5 level 2s, beaten by one 3, one 2, three 1s and a 0.

Bad example. Every Con build in that mission was inefficient for their given XP for the following reasons (not every reason applies to every Con, of course).

-- Overall low damage output
-- Weapons not equipped to use the stats (FP / SKL) that were purchased
-- Lacked actions through Courage
-- Too defensive and/or relied too much on Avoid
-- Stats did not always appropriately back tactics

Yes, the Random Number Generator will cause things to blow up sometimes; it however cannot compensate for "lacking raw material" to help you win. Sorry if that frankness offends, but that collection of Cons running up against that collection of Autobots with Speed / Courage / Avoid / Null-Rifle builds (and their ancestors) just didn't stand a chance even with Overlord as heavy damage and Windcon as heavy diversion.

However, if this is how Cons are playing these days, can the Predacon / Decepticon mission ratio please be turned up? We could use some more Level 3s to target :P
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby devast8or » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:32 pm

Psychout wrote:Wingspan pretty much covered it; weird **** happens at the lower levels, as 3 stats does give you an advantage but wont guarantee you the win, looks like you just lucked out buddy.

Just to be sure though - you have put your stats in either courage, strength, speed or a tactic - right?

Psychout, I'm disappointed in you...make sure you let him know about super secret stealth mode. :roll:
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby Wingspan » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:01 pm

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devast8or wrote:
Psychout wrote:Wingspan pretty much covered it; weird **** happens at the lower levels, as 3 stats does give you an advantage but wont guarantee you the win, looks like you just lucked out buddy.

Just to be sure though - you have put your stats in either courage, strength, speed or a tactic - right?

Psychout, I'm disappointed in you...make sure you let him know about super secret stealth mode. :roll:

That's only for Autobots; Maximals lost that ability. Maximals have super secret sneaky mode (powered by Rank) and the Bots have stealth (powered by Intelligence).

However, shame on us all for not properly greeting the newb.

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Twice in one week for me... is that greeting too old hat?
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby Psychout » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:23 pm

Motto: "This post clearly was meant to offend, and if you are affected by it in any way please close your browser and discuss it with someone who knows not to take the internet seriously."
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Wingspan wrote:
Editor wrote:Weird stuff happens under a random system as this game is based on. How else can you explain http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=41706.

A level 3, and 5 level 2s, beaten by one 3, one 2, three 1s and a 0.

Bad example

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And Dev, I must admit I chuckle every time I see that in your sig. :lol:
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby neliz » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:28 am

Editor wrote:Weird stuff happens under a random system as this game is based on. How else can you explain http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=41706.

A level 3, and 5 level 2s, beaten by one 3, one 2, three 1s and a 0.

Because the bots in there were pure win? my L2 has more XP :P
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Re: The curious case of WTF?!?!

Postby Nickolai » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:13 am

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OP: This happens all the time, especially in the Arena. Underdog Syndrome.
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