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Toy Hobby Market has updated Gentei Dark Skyfire's product page with a handful of new images. While these pictures are of the small variety, it shows off Dark Skyfire in different lighting. It looks like the figure is more black than initially supposed. There also might be some chrome work on the figure. Check it out below.

More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire

Dark Skyfire will be released sometime in March. You can pre-order it off of valued site sponsor RobotKingdom at a discounted price, or off any sponsor you see in the banners above and to the right.

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Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1034940)
Posted by Mkall on January 8th, 2010 @ 8:58pm CST

I'm in love.

This will be my 4th version of this mold. And I love every one of them.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1034954)
Posted by JRFitzpatrick7 on January 8th, 2010 @ 9:24pm CST

Can you guys tell me what "henkei" means and what "gentei" means?and the difference between the two. I'm hoping it isn't henkei : classics as gentei : universe, but I don't have a clue either way:/

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1034957)
Posted by Blurrz on January 8th, 2010 @ 9:25pm CST

Gentei means Japanese exclusive Henkei..... I think.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1034966)
Posted by Barrelass on January 8th, 2010 @ 9:55pm CST

Just a reminder to those who are still considering purchasing this, Robot Kingdom probably has the best price @ about $35. Their shipping is quite a bit more, but I ordered two and it came out to $90 shipped, which is about what one would have cost from most of the other retailers.

http://robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/ ... CatID=1_64

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1034970)
Posted by JRFitzpatrick7 on January 8th, 2010 @ 10:00pm CST

Blurrz wrote:Gentei means Japanese exclusive Henkei..... I think.

but aren't henkei figures exclusive to japan with all that chromy goodness?

How's the adve... top 25 countdown coming? I hope youre not planning to name Countdown #1, I watched a piece of my soul die during an E! countdown of guilty pleasures that ended with countdowns as the #1 guilty pleasures. It was a top 100, 5 installments of 20 in 5 days! Shame on me for tuning in.

On topic, how much is this lovely figure going to cost?I'm not sure how I feel about the blackness of the figure, I was liking the earlier dark dark gray

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1034971)
Posted by Blurrz on January 8th, 2010 @ 10:03pm CST

Damn, that price is drop dead good. Changed the post, thanks!

How's the adve... top 25 countdown coming? I hope youre not planning to name Countdown #1, I watched a piece of my soul die during an E! countdown of guilty pleasures that ended with countdowns as the #1 guilty pleasures. It was a top 100, 5 installments of 20 in 5 days! Shame on me for tuning in.

I'm working on it... XD

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1034976)
Posted by Barrelass on January 8th, 2010 @ 10:08pm CST

Blurrz wrote:Damn, that price is drop dead good. Changed the post, thanks!

Glad I could help, that price took me off the fence in a hurry. It is almost like they are giving them away. Forgot to check if they were a site sponsor before posting, glad they are.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1034979)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 8th, 2010 @ 10:20pm CST

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:Can you guys tell me what "henkei" means and what "gentei" means?and the difference between the two. I'm hoping it isn't henkei : classics as gentei : universe, but I don't have a clue either way:/

"Henkei" means "Transform" and "Gentei" means "Exclusive".

"Henkei! Henkei! Transformers" quite literally translates as "Transform! Transform! Transformers" and refers to the Japanese releases of the Classics and Universe 2008 figures. "Gentei! Gentei! Transformers" means "Exclusive! Exclusive! Transformers" and refers to those toys that are limited in release while also being a name pun on "Henkei! Henkei!".

The only "Gentei! Gentei!" figures there are are:

Stuntron Wildrider (redeco of Classics Rodimus)
Dirge (retool of Classics Ramjet)
Thrust (retool of Classics Ramjet)
Strafe w/ Rocketbot (redeco of Universe Cyclonus)
Dark Skyfire (redeco of Classics Jetfire)

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1034990)
Posted by Exic on January 8th, 2010 @ 11:06pm CST

Damn, this looks good

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035038)
Posted by Jetstorm92210 on January 9th, 2010 @ 1:23am CST

That's not Skyfire, that's Stormcloud. :lol:

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035067)
Posted by Mykltron on January 9th, 2010 @ 4:42am CST

Thanks to just reading the Mean Robot post I thought this title said 'genital'.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035074)
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on January 9th, 2010 @ 5:35am CST

anyone notice that in the first picture he's standing on one toe ?! O.o

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035075)
Posted by Diem on January 9th, 2010 @ 5:38am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:Can you guys tell me what "henkei" means and what "gentei" means?and the difference between the two. I'm hoping it isn't henkei : classics as gentei : universe, but I don't have a clue either way:/
"Henkei" means "Transform" and "Gentei" means "Exclusive".

"Henkei! Henkei! Transformers" quite literally translates as "Transform! Transform! Transformers" and refers to the Japanese releases of the Classics and Universe 2008 figures. "Gentei! Gentei! Transformers" means "Exclusive! Exclusive! Transformers" and refers to those toys that are limited in release while also being a name pun on "Henkei! Henkei!".

The only "Gentei! Gentei!" figures there are are:
Stuntron Wildrider (redeco of Classics Rodimus)
Dirge (retool of Classics Ramjet)
Thrust (retool of Classics Ramjet)
Strafe w/ Rocketbot (redeco of Universe Cyclonus)
Dark Skyfire (redeco of Classics Jetfire)

And Electrodistruptor Ligier, Ghost Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker
and Clear Convoy.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035102)
Posted by Blackstreak on January 9th, 2010 @ 8:24am CST

This mold is among my favorites. I'd love to pick one of these up and get my hands on the Dreadwind variant. Alrady got Jetfire and Treadbolt.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035103)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 9th, 2010 @ 8:25am CST

Diem wrote:And Electrodistruptor Ligier, Ghost Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker
and Clear Convoy.

No, those ones are exclusives, but they aren't part of "Gentei! Gentei!" The five I listed are the only "Gentei! Gentei!" exclusives.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035127)
Posted by Covenant on January 9th, 2010 @ 10:14am CST

I don't get it. Is it suppose to be a Shattered Glass figure? If not, seems to me they're just slapping a Classics mold with Skywarp's paintjob, a little chrome, all just to sell as "an exclusive". But hey, more power to them. Make that money. Gawd knows whatever the figure, whatever the paintjob, there's folks somewhere in the fanbase that will buy it.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035136)
Posted by Diem on January 9th, 2010 @ 11:26am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Diem wrote:And Electrodistruptor Ligier, Ghost Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker
and Clear Convoy.
No, those ones are exclusives, but they aren't part of "Gentei! Gentei!" The five I listed are the only "Gentei! Gentei!" exclusives.

ED Ligier is DEFINITELY a Gentei figure. The others I'm not 100% about. I can't find clear enough pictures online.

EDIT: Okay, I'll go halfsies with you. Skywarp and Thumdercracker are Henkei, ED Ligier and G. Starscream are Gentai, and I'm still not sure about clear Convoy.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035140)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 9th, 2010 @ 11:49am CST

Diem wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Diem wrote:And Electrodistruptor Ligier, Ghost Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker
and Clear Convoy.
No, those ones are exclusives, but they aren't part of "Gentei! Gentei!" The five I listed are the only "Gentei! Gentei!" exclusives.

ED Ligier is DEFINITELY a Gentei figure. The others I'm not 100% about. I can't find clear enough pictures online.

EDIT: Okay, I'll go halfsies with you. Skywarp and Thumdercracker are Henkei, ED Ligier and G. Starscream are Gentai, and I'm still not sure about clear Convoy.

Okay, then someone better go edit TFWiki.net's Henkei! toyline page.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035142)
Posted by Trikeboy on January 9th, 2010 @ 11:59am CST

Covenant wrote:I don't get it. Is it suppose to be a Shattered Glass figure?

Thats why I'm buying it. £32.23 shipped to the UK off of Robot Kingdom. Nice :grin:

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035167)
Posted by Philthy on January 9th, 2010 @ 2:04pm CST

It's like, how much more black could this repaint be? and the answer is none. None more black.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035170)
Posted by Julie85 on January 9th, 2010 @ 2:09pm CST

Looks really awesome! I wish the pictures were bigger. I'm considering getting this one, but sadly I'm running out of shelf space and money.

Covenant wrote:I don't get it. Is it suppose to be a Shattered Glass figure?

I don't think so, because he has the Decepticon symbol.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035178)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 9th, 2010 @ 3:02pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Diem wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Diem wrote:And Electrodistruptor Ligier, Ghost Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker
and Clear Convoy.
No, those ones are exclusives, but they aren't part of "Gentei! Gentei!" The five I listed are the only "Gentei! Gentei!" exclusives.

ED Ligier is DEFINITELY a Gentei figure. The others I'm not 100% about. I can't find clear enough pictures online.

EDIT: Okay, I'll go halfsies with you. Skywarp and Thumdercracker are Henkei, ED Ligier and G. Starscream are Gentai, and I'm still not sure about clear Convoy.
Okay, then someone better go edit TFWiki.net's Henkei! toyline page.

The Gentei line has a similar logo to Henkei but "Henkei"'s (変型！ヘンケイ！) replaced with "Gentei" (限定！ゲンテイ！). As I can read Japanese, let me help you guys out:

Henkei (but still exclusive)
Thundercracker
Skywarp
Convoy Clear Version

Gentei
Ligier, Electro Disruptor Version.
Strafe with Rocketbot
Starscream Ghost Version
Dirge
Thrust
Stuntron Wildrider

By the way, technically speaking the correct translation should be "Transform! Henkei! Transformers". That's because the second "Henkei" is written in katakana, the script used for foreign words like English. As such, in Japanese it's a meaningless proper noun akin to a mere name.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035185)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 9th, 2010 @ 3:42pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The Gentei line has a similar logo to Henkei but "Henkei"'s (変型！ヘンケイ！) replaced with "Gentei" (限定！ゲンテイ！). As I can read Japanese, let me help you guys out:

Henkei (but still exclusive)
Thundercracker
Skywarp
Convoy Clear Version

Gentei
Ligier, Electro Disruptor Version.
Strafe with Rocketbot
Starscream Ghost Version
Dirge
Thrust
Stuntron Wildrider

By the way, technically speaking the correct translation should be "Transform! Henkei! Transformers". That's because the second "Henkei" is written in katakana, the script used for foreign words like English. As such, in Japanese it's a meaningless proper noun akin to a mere name.

As I said before, someone better go edit the TFWiki.net Henkei! pages and put the correct info in them, as I was just restating what it said about Henkei! and Gentei!

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035191)
Posted by Trikeboy on January 9th, 2010 @ 4:07pm CST

Julie85 wrote:Looks really awesome! I wish the pictures were bigger. I'm considering getting this one, but sadly I'm running out of shelf space and money.

Covenant wrote:I don't get it. Is it suppose to be a Shattered Glass figure?

I don't think so, because he has the Decepticon symbol.

That can be amended with a couple of stickers. I have quite a few reprolabels did for me.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035211)
Posted by Rated X on January 9th, 2010 @ 5:24pm CST

Kinda cool but Im so tired of seeing autobots get a black and purple paint job to become decepticons. Who invented the whole "Nemesis Prime" concept anyway ??? I think its a silly way to create repaints...

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035216)
Posted by Blurrz on January 9th, 2010 @ 5:43pm CST

In actuality, the black and purple paint scheme has only been on an Autobot once before, and that's Shattered Glass Optimus Prime, who technically is never a Decepticon.

If you're referring to a paint scheme that we've seen far too long than that's black and teal, not black and purple.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035222)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 9th, 2010 @ 6:11pm CST

Rated X wrote:Kinda cool but Im so tired of seeing autobots get a black and purple paint job to become decepticons. Who invented the whole "Nemesis Prime" concept anyway ??? I think its a silly way to create repaints...

Blurrz wrote:In actuality, the black and purple paint scheme has only been on an Autobot once before, and that's Shattered Glass Optimus Prime, who technically is never a Decepticon.

If you're referring to a paint scheme that we've seen far too long than that's black and teal, not black and purple.

As for who started the evil redecos, I believe the first one was Black Lio Convoy, but it was Car Robots Black Convoy/RiD Scourge who popularized the trend.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035240)
Posted by Stormrider on January 9th, 2010 @ 7:28pm CST

Whoa - they transformed his color!

He went from grey to black.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1035751)
Posted by Stockade on January 11th, 2010 @ 7:32am CST

I'm soooooo glad i ordered this guy! but he wont be here until April when the FP Defender (Springer) gets here!!

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1036503)
Posted by Nickolai on January 13th, 2010 @ 3:28am CST

This may be the first Henkei exclusive I end up getting (despite Gentei being proliferate in my neck of the woods). I hope it's around $50.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1036545)
Posted by Counterpunch on January 13th, 2010 @ 7:40am CST

Nickolai wrote:This may be the first Henkei exclusive I end up getting (despite Gentei being proliferate in my neck of the woods). I hope it's around $50.

or...$95...whatever really.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1036555)
Posted by Diem on January 13th, 2010 @ 8:14am CST

Counterpunch wrote:
Nickolai wrote:This may be the first Henkei exclusive I end up getting (despite Gentei being proliferate in my neck of the woods). I hope it's around $50.

or...$95...whatever really.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

I managed to get Dirge for around $40...but I doubt a Gentei Voyager would be so cheap...

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1036580)
Posted by Nickolai on January 13th, 2010 @ 9:50am CST

Counterpunch wrote:
Nickolai wrote:This may be the first Henkei exclusive I end up getting (despite Gentei being proliferate in my neck of the woods). I hope it's around $50.

or...$95...whatever really.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Ack...

...and I feel this is 'the mold' for me... y'know, the one which you collect all iterations of because you dig it so muchy. Still, $95 isn't so bad... hanging around the shelves here are $100 Ghost Starscream, $100 Strafe and $140 for the pair of Dirge/Thrust. Looks like it may figure out to just under $80. :-?

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1036590)
Posted by Prime Evil on January 13th, 2010 @ 10:06am CST

Nickolai wrote:This may be the first Henkei exclusive I end up getting (despite Gentei being proliferate in my neck of the woods). I hope it's around $50.

Y'know, the very first post has a link to Robotkingdom which has him for $34.90 and a shipping (for me at least on the east coast) is $15.87, which brings to a total of $50.77.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1036598)
Posted by Counterpunch on January 13th, 2010 @ 10:59am CST

Prime Evil wrote:
Nickolai wrote:This may be the first Henkei exclusive I end up getting (despite Gentei being proliferate in my neck of the woods). I hope it's around $50.

Y'know, the very first post has a link to Robotkingdom which has him for $34.90 and a shipping (for me at least on the east coast) is $15.87, which brings to a total of $50.77.

Yea...wow. I did that.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1036668)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on January 13th, 2010 @ 3:26pm CST

Prime Evil wrote:
Nickolai wrote:This may be the first Henkei exclusive I end up getting (despite Gentei being proliferate in my neck of the woods). I hope it's around $50.

Y'know, the very first post has a link to Robotkingdom which has him for $34.90 and a shipping (for me at least on the east coast) is $15.87, which brings to a total of $50.77.

I'm really hoping BBTS drops the price. I'd prefer to buy from them, but not pay double after shipping.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1036771)
Posted by Nickolai on January 13th, 2010 @ 8:47pm CST

Yeah, shipping is a killer. My shipping cost would be around 90% of the fig's price. (:|

Not to mention our crooked customs bureau would probably hold it hostage if not outright steal it.

Re: More Images of Gentei Dark Skyfire (1037434)
Posted by Jazz-1982 on January 16th, 2010 @ 8:30am CST

I think Skyfire looks much cooler in black than he did in grey. A combination the Nemesis Prime story line the Botcon genius that was the Shattered Glass set is why there are so many dark repaints of autobots (although Cyclonus is the only decepticon I can think of that they've done it for).

I wouldn't be surprised if they released a Trypticon like Grimlock just like the set as we've already had Nemisis Prime and Hot Rod/Wildrider. For some wierd reason the black Prime and all these shadow/dark figures like Shadow Commander, Hot Rod, Grimlock, Jetfire makes me think a Transformers version of Hulk Hogan and the nWo. Strange I know.

I have no idea how Robot Kingdom are able to sell Skyfire for so cheap because that's almost $10 cheaper than the price on ToyHobbyMarket and as it's been pointed out it's much cheaper than BBTS. I ordered 5 (1 for me and 4 to sell as part of a set with Henkei Jetfire of whom I also bought 5 (1 for me again) probably on Ebay.