New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series
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In images we can see the listings for some upcoming figures at Target stores. Thanks to a Seibertron user named CommunistPrime for sharing these with us. These are so new that they don't have prices and some of them use code names like 'Stryker'. If you are not farmiliar with code names we do have some information on them from a few months ago. So far we are aware that Stryker is most likely a code name for Bumblebee. It appears we are getting Ironhide, Jazz (Despite that hilarious typo), Brawl and Ratchet. The code names left for speculation are Fox, Mercenary and Blue light. Who do you think we will get? And out of the characters we already know what deco do you think we will get of them? Let us know.
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Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1961991)
Posted by Quantum Surge on May 28th, 2018 @ 2:59pm CDT
Posted by Quantum Surge on May 28th, 2018 @ 2:59pm CDT
I presume that Ironhide will take cues from the HFTD Deluxe.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1961993)
Posted by WreckerJack on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:00pm CDT
I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1961994)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CDT
I think there might be some mistakes here, like that deluxe Brawl
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1961995)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:10pm CDT
Am confused. We already have Ratchet and he's a Deluxe and he's a tall Deluxe, same height as Lockdown and bigger than Bee and Jazz.
Ironhide being listed as voyager? Maybe cos he's got more bulk? And big cannons?
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:10pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Am confused. We already have Ratchet and he's a Deluxe and he's a tall Deluxe, same height as Lockdown and bigger than Bee and Jazz.
Ironhide being listed as voyager? Maybe cos he's got more bulk? And big cannons?
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1961996)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:16pm CDT
He isnt a tall deluxe, he is just the same height as the average deluxe. Him being bigger than the two smalleest deluxes of all time doesnt make him tall.
Now Animated and ROTF Lockdown and Battle Blade Bee, those are tall deluxes.
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:16pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Am confused. We already have Ratchet and he's a Deluxe and he's a tall Deluxe, same height as Lockdown and bigger than Bee and Jazz.
He isnt a tall deluxe, he is just the same height as the average deluxe. Him being bigger than the two smalleest deluxes of all time doesnt make him tall.
Now Animated and ROTF Lockdown and Battle Blade Bee, those are tall deluxes.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1961997)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:21pm CDT
Those are very old figures now. You cannot compare those figures size to more recent figures. Hasbro pretty much have been changing the size definitions over the years. So much so that a 2014 Movie Advanced re-deco of 2010 Battle Blade Bee was classed as Voyager. Ratchet and Lockdown ARE tall deluxes in the Studio scale in that they are the tallest of the Deluxes (that I own anyways). Those figures you mention are not part of this series and so do not count.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:21pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:He isnt a tall deluxe, he is just the same height as the average deluxe. Him being bigger than the two smalleest deluxes of all time doesnt make him tall.
Now Animated and ROTF Lockdown and Battle Blade Bee, those are tall deluxes.
Those are very old figures now. You cannot compare those figures size to more recent figures. Hasbro pretty much have been changing the size definitions over the years. So much so that a 2014 Movie Advanced re-deco of 2010 Battle Blade Bee was classed as Voyager. Ratchet and Lockdown ARE tall deluxes in the Studio scale in that they are the tallest of the Deluxes (that I own anyways). Those figures you mention are not part of this series and so do not count.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1961998)
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:24pm CDT
That still doest make Ratchet a tall deluxe. He isnt bigger than a combiner wars deluxe. He's just normal size. And I can compare what I want as I please, you are not the boss of me
Posted by william-james88 on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:24pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:He isnt a tall deluxe, he is just the same height as the average deluxe. Him being bigger than the two smalleest deluxes of all time doesnt make him tall.
Now Animated and ROTF Lockdown and Battle Blade Bee, those are tall deluxes.
Those are very old figures now. You cannot compare those figures size to more recent figures. Hasbro pretty much have been changing the size definitions over the years. So much so that a 2014 Movie Advanced re-deco of 2010 Battle Blade Bee was classed as Voyager. Ratchet and Lockdown ARE tall deluxes in the Studio scale in that they are the tallest of the Deluxes (that I own anyways). Those figures you mention are not part of this series and so do not count.
That still doest make Ratchet a tall deluxe. He isnt bigger than a combiner wars deluxe. He's just normal size. And I can compare what I want as I please, you are not the boss of me
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1961999)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:29pm CDT
Yeah. It's funny, I compared SS Stinger with BBBB and Bee is like twice the size of Stinger. Though I will say I like the Stinger mold enough I'd take a reshell of him as AOE Bee.
Seeing as you mention Lockdown I'm still not sure if I want the ROTF version or some variant of the Animated mold (I'm thinking TAV). Animated Lockdown goes fairly cheap, but dear lord ROTF Lockdown looks awesome.
Posted by Evil Eye on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:29pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Am confused. We already have Ratchet and he's a Deluxe and he's a tall Deluxe, same height as Lockdown and bigger than Bee and Jazz.
He isnt a tall deluxe, he is just the same height as the average deluxe. Him being bigger than the two smalleest deluxes of all time doesnt make him tall.
Now Animated and ROTF Lockdown and Battle Blade Bee, those are tall deluxes.
Yeah. It's funny, I compared SS Stinger with BBBB and Bee is like twice the size of Stinger. Though I will say I like the Stinger mold enough I'd take a reshell of him as AOE Bee.
Seeing as you mention Lockdown I'm still not sure if I want the ROTF version or some variant of the Animated mold (I'm thinking TAV). Animated Lockdown goes fairly cheap, but dear lord ROTF Lockdown looks awesome.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962000)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CDT
He's taller than a lot of movie Deluxes over the past few years. Various Bumblebees, TLK Barricade, and I tried measuring him (and Lockdown) with some other figures i still own such as some past movie Deluxes like DotM Barricade, Sidearms Sideswipe (whom i always felt was a bit tall) and that was roughly same height, and some non-movie Deluxe figures like RTS Tracks (Ratchet is a tad taller), and Wolfwire (again Ratchet is noticably taller) but again none of that means anything to the Studio scale in which Ratchet and Lockdown are the tallest Deluxes (that I can compare as I don't have Stinger and Crowbar) with Jazz being by far the smallest. That's what my original point and comparison was. I dunno why all the arguing when I thought we'd all gotten the idea of the scale thing Hasbro were going with here and how they are fitting certain characters into classes and the factors involving scale, cost, amount of parts, mass of plastics, paintjobs and such. That's way it looks to me anyways but I don't know anything really.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:That still doest make Ratchet a tall deluxe. He isnt bigger than a combiner wars deluxe. He's just normal size.
He's taller than a lot of movie Deluxes over the past few years. Various Bumblebees, TLK Barricade, and I tried measuring him (and Lockdown) with some other figures i still own such as some past movie Deluxes like DotM Barricade, Sidearms Sideswipe (whom i always felt was a bit tall) and that was roughly same height, and some non-movie Deluxe figures like RTS Tracks (Ratchet is a tad taller), and Wolfwire (again Ratchet is noticably taller) but again none of that means anything to the Studio scale in which Ratchet and Lockdown are the tallest Deluxes (that I can compare as I don't have Stinger and Crowbar) with Jazz being by far the smallest. That's what my original point and comparison was. I dunno why all the arguing when I thought we'd all gotten the idea of the scale thing Hasbro were going with here and how they are fitting certain characters into classes and the factors involving scale, cost, amount of parts, mass of plastics, paintjobs and such. That's way it looks to me anyways but I don't know anything really.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962002)
Posted by WreckerJack on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:44pm CDT
That is true. I wonder now if Brawl and Ratchet are place holders. (Since we already got Ratch, but you know how hasbro loves to give us too much of a good thing sometimes.)
Posted by WreckerJack on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:44pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I think there might be some mistakes here, like that deluxe Brawl
That is true. I wonder now if Brawl and Ratchet are place holders. (Since we already got Ratch, but you know how hasbro loves to give us too much of a good thing sometimes.)
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962003)
Posted by Munkky on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:58pm CDT
Posted by Munkky on May 28th, 2018 @ 3:58pm CDT
It says on the TFWiki page for Studio Series that "Fox" was Megatron's codename, so perhaps 30 Fox is another Megatron, personally I wouldn't mind a new version of the Dark of the Moon design.
As for other figures, I hope one of the future Deluxes is Sideswipe, mainly because my ROTF Deluxe is beginning to show its age with worn away paint and creaky joints. Also, I doubt it will happen, but I would LOVE a Deluxe Arcee comprised of three motorcycles that combine into a single robot based on the old concept art.
As for other figures, I hope one of the future Deluxes is Sideswipe, mainly because my ROTF Deluxe is beginning to show its age with worn away paint and creaky joints. Also, I doubt it will happen, but I would LOVE a Deluxe Arcee comprised of three motorcycles that combine into a single robot based on the old concept art.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962005)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 28th, 2018 @ 4:06pm CDT
I prefer the 2007 Arcee figure (though she doesn't fit in Studio scale, heck she didn't fir in her own 2007 toyline scalewise not that they tried so hard with that. Only reason I haven't culled her is that I simply just love the design of her far too much to want to part with it) over the weird triplet wonky wheelbots from RotF but I'm game to see them attempt that combining thing just to see if they can pull it off.
Anyways me off to bed. Have only had about 30 mins sleep in past couple days and even that was on the floor behind my recliner (why not on the recliner? I don't know... i didn't choose the sleeping place) and my issues been going crazy (is why i been trying to distract with lots of transformers stuffs). Goodnight, folks.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 28th, 2018 @ 4:06pm CDT
Munkky wrote:It says on the TFWiki page for Studio Series that "Fox" was Megatron's codename, so perhaps 30 Fox is another Megatron, personally I wouldn't mind a new version of the Dark of the Moon design.
As for other figures, I hope one of the future Deluxes is Sideswipe, mainly because my ROTF Deluxe is beginning to show its age with worn away paint and creaky joints. Also, I doubt it will happen, but I would LOVE a Deluxe Arcee comprised of three motorcycles that combine into a single robot based on the old concept art.
I prefer the 2007 Arcee figure (though she doesn't fit in Studio scale, heck she didn't fir in her own 2007 toyline scalewise not that they tried so hard with that. Only reason I haven't culled her is that I simply just love the design of her far too much to want to part with it) over the weird triplet wonky wheelbots from RotF but I'm game to see them attempt that combining thing just to see if they can pull it off.
Anyways me off to bed. Have only had about 30 mins sleep in past couple days and even that was on the floor behind my recliner (why not on the recliner? I don't know... i didn't choose the sleeping place) and my issues been going crazy (is why i been trying to distract with lots of transformers stuffs). Goodnight, folks.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962013)
Posted by Octobotimus on May 28th, 2018 @ 4:42pm CDT
Posted by Octobotimus on May 28th, 2018 @ 4:42pm CDT
this can easily be somewhat fake/ inaccurate..... considering it says deluxe brawl, deluxe jass (not jazz) so i feel this is not all that reliable..... (considering they don't know much about the actual products)
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962014)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 28th, 2018 @ 4:42pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 28th, 2018 @ 4:42pm CDT
Regarding the previous custom painted Megatron, that's WAY too shiny. Too "brand new". He'd need a black wash or something over that silver to dirty him up a little. If I find my Megs too bland looking with his original colors, I might just do that myself. 
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962020)
Posted by Aimless Misfire on May 28th, 2018 @ 5:09pm CDT
Good lord, just go buy one of the older voyager Ratchets. Ratchet is Ratchet, if you want a voyager Ratchet just go get one. DUH!
Posted by Aimless Misfire on May 28th, 2018 @ 5:09pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Good lord, just go buy one of the older voyager Ratchets. Ratchet is Ratchet, if you want a voyager Ratchet just go get one. DUH!
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962024)
Posted by dragons on May 28th, 2018 @ 5:30pm CDT
Stinger. Figure. Is ok it could be. Better in studio series still looks to much like repaint of bumblebee Figure. Should change transformation and weapons on stinger. Figure to make it look less like repaint of bumblebee. Figure
Posted by dragons on May 28th, 2018 @ 5:30pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Am confused. We already have Ratchet and he's a Deluxe and he's a tall Deluxe, same height as Lockdown and bigger than Bee and Jazz.
He isnt a tall deluxe, he is just the same height as the average deluxe. Him being bigger than the two smalleest deluxes of all time doesnt make him tall.
Now Animated and ROTF Lockdown and Battle Blade Bee, those are tall deluxes.
Yeah. It's funny, I compared SS Stinger with BBBB and Bee is like twice the size of Stinger. Though I will say I like the Stinger mold enough I'd take a reshell of him as AOE Bee.
Seeing as you mention Lockdown I'm still not sure if I want the ROTF version or some variant of the Animated mold (I'm thinking TAV). Animated Lockdown goes fairly cheap, but dear lord ROTF Lockdown looks awesome.
Stinger. Figure. Is ok it could be. Better in studio series still looks to much like repaint of bumblebee Figure. Should change transformation and weapons on stinger. Figure to make it look less like repaint of bumblebee. Figure
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962027)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 28th, 2018 @ 5:37pm CDT
Hum.... It's not that easy, dude. Ironhide had 3 voyagers, notably the DOTM who is in perfect scale with deluxe cars and even SS Optimus. However, Ratchet only have ONE voyager mold. The 2007 version. And it's freaking HUGE. It can only scale with Leader ROTF Optimus.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 28th, 2018 @ 5:37pm CDT
Aimless Misfire wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Good lord, just go buy one of the older voyager Ratchets. Ratchet is Ratchet, if you want a voyager Ratchet just go get one. DUH!
Hum.... It's not that easy, dude. Ironhide had 3 voyagers, notably the DOTM who is in perfect scale with deluxe cars and even SS Optimus. However, Ratchet only have ONE voyager mold. The 2007 version. And it's freaking HUGE. It can only scale with Leader ROTF Optimus.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962033)
Posted by WreckerJack on May 28th, 2018 @ 6:01pm CDT
The only ones I can find are expensive or broken. (or the shipping costs a lot more than it should)
Instead of hasbro giving us two deluxes they should give us a voyager instead. Duh.
Posted by WreckerJack on May 28th, 2018 @ 6:01pm CDT
Aimless Misfire wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Good lord, just go buy one of the older voyager Ratchets. Ratchet is Ratchet, if you want a voyager Ratchet just go get one. DUH!
The only ones I can find are expensive or broken. (or the shipping costs a lot more than it should)
Instead of hasbro giving us two deluxes they should give us a voyager instead. Duh.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962045)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 28th, 2018 @ 7:33pm CDT
They should have made a DOTM voyager ratchet instead of double-dipping by making a lame-ass voyager Sentinel Prime when there already was a leader. DUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR.....
Seriously. They remade a great Ironhide so why his bro wasn't there?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 28th, 2018 @ 7:33pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Good lord, just go buy one of the older voyager Ratchets. Ratchet is Ratchet, if you want a voyager Ratchet just go get one. DUH!
The only ones I can find are expensive or broken. (or the shipping costs a lot more than it should)
Instead of hasbro giving us two deluxes they should give us a voyager instead. Duh.
They should have made a DOTM voyager ratchet instead of double-dipping by making a lame-ass voyager Sentinel Prime when there already was a leader. DUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR.....
Seriously. They remade a great Ironhide so why his bro wasn't there?
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962050)
Posted by fruityrobo on May 28th, 2018 @ 11:15pm CDT
Posted by fruityrobo on May 28th, 2018 @ 11:15pm CDT
I really like how this guy looks. However I picked up Peru Kill from Unique Toys because I like my decepticon villians to tower over the autobots. so usually when it comes to decepticon leaders I go for size
After looking at reviews, I highly reccomend either of the two.
Peru Kill from Unique Toys is obviously more expensive so if you have a low budget then get the hastak one
After looking at reviews, I highly reccomend either of the two.
Peru Kill from Unique Toys is obviously more expensive so if you have a low budget then get the hastak one
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962063)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 29th, 2018 @ 2:10am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 29th, 2018 @ 2:10am CDT
Deluxe Brawl? That makes no sense for the Studio Series. We're getting an in-scale voyager version in the coming weeks, so why bother with a smaller one that's out of scale? Something is very off with that listing.
Deluxe Ratchet coming up again makes sense, though, as it could just be his Dark of the Moon deco. We've been speculating that Hasbro and Takara are releasing a repaint of Voyager Starscream with his Revenge of the Fallen deco, so why not do the same with Ratchet? Gotta get the most out of those molds!
Voyager Ironhide gives me a bit of pause. Seriously, Studio Series Optimus Prime is already a fairly small voyager figure, and to retain robot mode scale, Ironhide will have to be an even smaller voyager. I'm talking small like Studio Series Jazz is the tiniest deluxe figure we've ever had small. Maybe that would mean that Ironhide would come with an extensive paint job to compensate, like Jazz, or maybe just a whole cashe of weapons and accessories to justify the $30.00 USD price tag.
Deluxe Ratchet coming up again makes sense, though, as it could just be his Dark of the Moon deco. We've been speculating that Hasbro and Takara are releasing a repaint of Voyager Starscream with his Revenge of the Fallen deco, so why not do the same with Ratchet? Gotta get the most out of those molds!
Voyager Ironhide gives me a bit of pause. Seriously, Studio Series Optimus Prime is already a fairly small voyager figure, and to retain robot mode scale, Ironhide will have to be an even smaller voyager. I'm talking small like Studio Series Jazz is the tiniest deluxe figure we've ever had small. Maybe that would mean that Ironhide would come with an extensive paint job to compensate, like Jazz, or maybe just a whole cashe of weapons and accessories to justify the $30.00 USD price tag.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962068)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 29th, 2018 @ 2:32am CDT
But even in the movie, that's what stinger was, he was to bumblebee what galvatron was to prime. So it makes sense for stinger to be a repaint of bee as he was never anyone else to begin with.
I'm sorry wreckerjack but a voyager rachet would be out of scale with what they are going for here in the ss series. Actually tell a lie, for a voyager to work they would have to find a way for the bigger vehicle to condense to make for a smaller robot mode so he's shorter than prime (going from that chart) obviously the designers felt it could be better achieved by making him deluxe scale.
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 29th, 2018 @ 2:32am CDT
dragons wrote:Black Hat wrote:william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I hope that like 'Jass' ratchet being a deluxe is a mistake. I want bigger Ratchet so he can scale with the other deluxes better. Ambulances are larger than sport cars.
Am confused. We already have Ratchet and he's a Deluxe and he's a tall Deluxe, same height as Lockdown and bigger than Bee and Jazz.
He isnt a tall deluxe, he is just the same height as the average deluxe. Him being bigger than the two smalleest deluxes of all time doesnt make him tall.
Now Animated and ROTF Lockdown and Battle Blade Bee, those are tall deluxes.
Yeah. It's funny, I compared SS Stinger with BBBB and Bee is like twice the size of Stinger. Though I will say I like the Stinger mold enough I'd take a reshell of him as AOE Bee.
Seeing as you mention Lockdown I'm still not sure if I want the ROTF version or some variant of the Animated mold (I'm thinking TAV). Animated Lockdown goes fairly cheap, but dear lord ROTF Lockdown looks awesome.
Stinger. Figure. Is ok it could be. Better in studio series still looks to much like repaint of bumblebee Figure. Should change transformation and weapons on stinger. Figure to make it look less like repaint of bumblebee. Figure
But even in the movie, that's what stinger was, he was to bumblebee what galvatron was to prime. So it makes sense for stinger to be a repaint of bee as he was never anyone else to begin with.
I'm sorry wreckerjack but a voyager rachet would be out of scale with what they are going for here in the ss series. Actually tell a lie, for a voyager to work they would have to find a way for the bigger vehicle to condense to make for a smaller robot mode so he's shorter than prime (going from that chart) obviously the designers felt it could be better achieved by making him deluxe scale.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962130)
Posted by WreckerJack on May 29th, 2018 @ 1:25pm CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on May 29th, 2018 @ 1:25pm CDT
Fair enough. It seems that sometimes with size classes its either too big or too small and nothing is "just right". At times it's nice to have two different ones depending upon what you are doing posing them though.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962185)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 29th, 2018 @ 6:31pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 29th, 2018 @ 6:31pm CDT
In my opinion they just really needed to make OP a bit bigger. The bot and con scale is gonna be off simply because the cons tended to be larger, but the scale is really hurting the bots. They are small, and they really shouldn't be that small. That is my biggest problem with this line is the robot mode scale being the basis, it's not working for several figures!
Of the 4 I have, Ratchet and Bee are painful because of the size. Grimlock is large like he should be and Thundercracker is awesome. But the former 2 are in dire need of an upscale
Of the 4 I have, Ratchet and Bee are painful because of the size. Grimlock is large like he should be and Thundercracker is awesome. But the former 2 are in dire need of an upscale
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962216)
Posted by CommunistPrime on May 29th, 2018 @ 10:26pm CDT
Crazy idea, but considering that it appears starscream will be in the bumblebee movie, also the fact that it’s now a reboot, but could megatron be in it as well in one from or another? Didn’t we get a listing for him in the new allspark style line for the movie? (Forgot what they’re called)
Posted by CommunistPrime on May 29th, 2018 @ 10:26pm CDT
Munkky wrote:It says on the TFWiki page for Studio Series that "Fox" was Megatron's codename, so perhaps 30 Fox is another Megatron, personally I wouldn't mind a new version of the Dark of the Moon design.
As for other figures, I hope one of the future Deluxes is Sideswipe, mainly because my ROTF Deluxe is beginning to show its age with worn away paint and creaky joints. Also, I doubt it will happen, but I would LOVE a Deluxe Arcee comprised of three motorcycles that combine into a single robot based on the old concept art.
Crazy idea, but considering that it appears starscream will be in the bumblebee movie, also the fact that it’s now a reboot, but could megatron be in it as well in one from or another? Didn’t we get a listing for him in the new allspark style line for the movie? (Forgot what they’re called)
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962217)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 29th, 2018 @ 10:29pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 29th, 2018 @ 10:29pm CDT
What would have been preferable would be for them to have resurrected the old Supreme class and used that for Blackout and Grimlock so that Megatron and Starscream could be small Leaders, Brawl a large Voyager, Optimus a modest-sized Voyager, Ratchet and Lockdown very small Voyagers, and every other Deluxe just a hair larger than their current sizes.
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962239)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 30th, 2018 @ 4:27am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 30th, 2018 @ 4:27am CDT
So am I the only one who is fine with how things are? I think it's comendable that they are even sticking to a scale (and there's no telling that they may do a larger scale a couple of years down the line)
Re: New Listings at Target for Transformers Studio Series (1962243)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 4:49am CDT
No they're really not. Bee especially is pretty much the ideal size his previous toys should have been in my opinion. Especially compared to supposed 'deluxe battle blade bee' which was far too large.
No, the Studio scale works great for me for many reasons such as shelf size and cost reasons too.
God no. I could barely even afford one Leader class figure, never mind Supreme... And what retailers would even stock it? The current Leaders have far less retailers than the smaller figures it seems.
Ironhide needs to be a bit taller than Ratchet (since Ratchet is 20 feet and Ironhide is 22 feet) and generally bulkier and have his huge cannons (but then Lockdown and Nitro Zeus are supposely 22 feet as well so it's already a lil confusing but not too bad). Wonder how the AoE and TLK Hounds scale cos i don't own those but he's 24 feet i think
My Megatron is a-coming todaaaay!
By the way how would a Grindor retool of Blackout even happen when Grindor is so much larger than Blackout?
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 4:49am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Of the 4 I have, Ratchet and Bee are painful because of the size. Grimlock is large like he should be and Thundercracker is awesome. But the former 2 are in dire need of an upscale
No they're really not. Bee especially is pretty much the ideal size his previous toys should have been in my opinion. Especially compared to supposed 'deluxe battle blade bee' which was far too large.
ZeroWolf wrote:So am I the only one who is fine with how things are? I think it's comendable that they are even sticking to a scale (and there's no telling that they may do a larger scale a couple of years down the line)
No, the Studio scale works great for me for many reasons such as shelf size and cost reasons too.
Sabrblade wrote:What would have been preferable would be for them to have resurrected the old Supreme class and used that for Blackout and Grimlock so that Megatron and Starscream could be small Leaders, Brawl a large Voyager, Optimus a modest-sized Voyager, Ratchet and Lockdown very small Voyagers, and every other Deluxe just a hair larger than their current sizes.
God no. I could barely even afford one Leader class figure, never mind Supreme... And what retailers would even stock it? The current Leaders have far less retailers than the smaller figures it seems.
Ironhide needs to be a bit taller than Ratchet (since Ratchet is 20 feet and Ironhide is 22 feet) and generally bulkier and have his huge cannons (but then Lockdown and Nitro Zeus are supposely 22 feet as well so it's already a lil confusing but not too bad). Wonder how the AoE and TLK Hounds scale cos i don't own those but he's 24 feet i think
My Megatron is a-coming todaaaay!
By the way how would a Grindor retool of Blackout even happen when Grindor is so much larger than Blackout?
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 10:28am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 10:28am CDT
Woo!
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 10:45am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 10:45am CDT
Yep, it's true that Megatron is a big voyager. Can stand almost as tall as Grimlock if you straighten up the legs
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 12:05pm CDT
Box my Megatron came in.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 12:05pm CDT
Munkky wrote:It says on the TFWiki page for Studio Series that "Fox" was Megatron's codename, so perhaps 30 Fox is another Megatron, personally I wouldn't mind a new version of the Dark of the Moon design.
Box my Megatron came in.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 30th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 30th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
Nice, have you had much time to handle him yet carni?
So 30 Fox is just ROTF megs then?
So 30 Fox is just ROTF megs then?
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CDT
Been pretty busy this evening with stuffs such as having to set up a youtube for my drama group to upload stuff to and haven't had time to sit down properly with Megatron to transform him. Will do after dinner. He's certainly fun to play with in robot mode.
For some reason I had him posed like a guest on a chat show while I sorted out the youtube stuffs.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Nice, have you had much time to handle him yet carni?
So 30 Fox is just ROTF megs then?
Been pretty busy this evening with stuffs such as having to set up a youtube for my drama group to upload stuff to and haven't had time to sit down properly with Megatron to transform him. Will do after dinner. He's certainly fun to play with in robot mode.
For some reason I had him posed like a guest on a chat show while I sorted out the youtube stuffs.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 30th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 30th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
Who would have the guts to get that close to him to do an interview?
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Posted by o.supreme on May 30th, 2018 @ 2:45pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on May 30th, 2018 @ 2:45pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Who would have the guts to get that close to him to do an interview?
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CDT
This be true. Hm, did Carly get a figure? I can't recall any of the Human Alliance bots coming with one of her. Suppose a repaint of one of the Mikaelas would be be best option there...
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Who would have the guts to get that close to him to do an interview?
This be true. Hm, did Carly get a figure? I can't recall any of the Human Alliance bots coming with one of her. Suppose a repaint of one of the Mikaelas would be be best option there...
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Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2018 @ 6:33pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2018 @ 6:33pm CDT
Josh Duhamel got ridiculously close to Megs inTLK . He has a human alliance figure.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 30th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 30th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CDT
Finally motivated by scale issues and price for bang.
So here is a nice group shot of figures I have from all 5 movies and the SS line, chosen at random that are currently displayed in robot mode, all lined up to show the robot mode scaling. And it shows that SS Ratchet is still too small compared to DotM Ironhide, a figure cursed by being in the cheapest movie line in terms of individual figures (right around FoC toys too, when we got tiny toys for the size classes).
I'm also still frustrated by how small Bee is, and by extent the soon to come out Jazz. Look at how he is a whole head shorter than AOE Bee!
So here is a nice group shot of figures I have from all 5 movies and the SS line, chosen at random that are currently displayed in robot mode, all lined up to show the robot mode scaling. And it shows that SS Ratchet is still too small compared to DotM Ironhide, a figure cursed by being in the cheapest movie line in terms of individual figures (right around FoC toys too, when we got tiny toys for the size classes).
I'm also still frustrated by how small Bee is, and by extent the soon to come out Jazz. Look at how he is a whole head shorter than AOE Bee!
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 30th, 2018 @ 7:20pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 30th, 2018 @ 7:20pm CDT
Everyone who approaches him to talk to him at Universal Studios.ZeroWolf wrote:Who would have the guts to get that close to him to do an interview?
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2018 @ 8:01pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2018 @ 8:01pm CDT
The pics above clearly show that 2007 Ratchet is stupidly LARGE. Damn, he's almost a leader by today's standards. 
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 30th, 2018 @ 8:13pm CDT
And simultaneously showing that the perfect sized Ratchet is around halfway between him and the shrimpy SS guy
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 30th, 2018 @ 8:13pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:The pics above clearly show that 2007 Ratchet is stupidly LARGE. Damn, he's almost a leader by today's standards.
And simultaneously showing that the perfect sized Ratchet is around halfway between him and the shrimpy SS guy
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 11:46pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2018 @ 11:46pm CDT
Studio is it's OWN scale. It's a movie line where all the figures are intentionally designed to try and be in scale with each other as best as can be allowed given budget and other reasons. Previous movie lines did not have this focus. Characters were simply placed into whichever class their a toy could be made for and the toy was made best to fit that particular budget class and that's why you got multiple size versions of the same character in the same line, (for example in Dark of the Moon there is Ironhide in Deluxe, Voyager AND Leader class all at the same time). If previous movie figures fit into Studio scale it is by chance, not by design (especially since the size classes have all actually changed physical sizes and costs in the past 11 years since the first movie line). In this scale Optimus Prime and Megatron are NOT Leader class. They are Voyager so that photo having the Leader class figures is way off anyways.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:32am CDT
Perfect size compared to what though? Or are you suggesting that ratchet should have been a voyager in the ss line to scale with his live mates?
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:32am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:The pics above clearly show that 2007 Ratchet is stupidly LARGE. Damn, he's almost a leader by today's standards.
And simultaneously showing that the perfect sized Ratchet is around halfway between him and the shrimpy SS guy
Perfect size compared to what though?
Or are you suggesting that ratchet should have been a voyager in the ss line to scale with his live mates?
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Posted by Va'al on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:38am CDT
Posted by Va'al on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:38am CDT
Thanks to a number of listings over on online retailer Amazon, and specifically its Japanese branch, we have the utterly unchanged, identical stock images of the completely the same figures in the second wave of Transformers Studio Series released by Takara Tomy with a sticker on the box: Deluxes Jazz and Lockdown, and Voyagers Megatron and Brawl.
You can take a look at the machine translated bio and info below, along with the images, and await the release date of July 21st (current prices are around 6-9500 Yen/85 USD for the Voyagers and 5-7500 Yen / 70 USD, if these are something you're interested in
You can take a look at the machine translated bio and info below, along with the images, and await the release date of July 21st (current prices are around 6-9500 Yen/85 USD for the Voyagers and 5-7500 Yen / 70 USD, if these are something you're interested in
Transformers Studio Series 09 Autobot Jazz
A series in which popular characters of successive movies appear in completely new modeling! This product is a product that thoroughly reproduced the "Autobot Jazz" that transformed into Pontiac · Solstis, which appeared in the first film of the movie, with a new mold. Autobot 's officer. Although it is a small body, in the battle it is top class among Autobots warriors. Even though it has a cheerful personality, his confidence from his colleagues is thick as he is calmly deposited. It transforms into Pontiac Solstice.
Contents of set:
Autobot Jazz (1)
Weapons (1)
Instruction Manual (1)
Transformers Studio Series 10 Lockdown
Series that popular characters of successive movies appear in completely new modeling! This product is a new mold with "Lockdown" which transforms into Lamborghini · Aventador LP-700-4 coupe, which appeared in the 4th film of the movie It is a commodity thoroughly reproduced. I will never let the prey that I aimed at earning money of the universe escape. I am good at sniper from a long distance. Lamborghini · Aventador LP-700-4 transform into coupe.
Contents of set:
Lockdown (1)
Weapon A (1)
Weapon B (1)
Instruction Manual (1)
Transformers Studio Series 11 Megatron
A series in which popular characters of successive movies appear in completely new modeling!
This product is a product that thoroughly reproduced "Megatron" which transforms into an alien tank, which appeared in the second movie of the movie with a new mold.
Contents of set:
Megatron (1)
Instruction Manual (1)
Transformers Studio Series 12 Brawl
A series in which popular characters of successive movies appear in completely new modeling!
This product is a product that thoroughly reproduced the M1 Abrams tank "blow" in a movie first work with a new mold. Decepticon 's soldier wears a large amount of weapons throughout the body and chases autobot warriors with overwhelming firepower. It transforms into M1 Abrams tank.
Contents of set:
Brawl (1)
Weapon A (1)
Weapon B (1)
Instruction Manual (1)
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:43am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:43am CDT
You know... I like not needing to worry about Takara versions being any better than Hasbro's cos i used to have to choose between cheaper Hasbro ones or more expensive (including shipping) Takara versions. Now I don't have to spend time making that decision and just buy Hasbro's and add any lil extra paint myself knowing there is no better factory version available to make me envious or broke.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 31st, 2018 @ 4:43am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 31st, 2018 @ 4:43am CDT
Brawl is more scrawny looking as a voyager than the THICC leader. I may pick him up on sale. Lockdown seem pretty fine too, despite the obligatory arm panels and backpack. Maybe on sale too. Jazz and Megs are day one sure buy, no matter the price.
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 4:58am CDT
Lockdown has an insane amount of detail especially for a Deluxe figure. And despite not being as tall as Prime he's certainly bulky enough and well proportioned enough that he looks like he can take him on. Wish my photo skills could do justice to the figures but here's a slightly blurry shot anyways.
Also thanks muchly to Munkky for the spare Ratchet & Bee backdrop cards. They just arrived a few minutes ago and were better packaged than some of the actual full on boxed Transformers I've ordered in past year or so Giving one of those to DotM Barricade (that I'm using at least until the possiblity of an actual Studio figure is made) and haven't decided which figure to use on the other. Will need some voyager backdrops at some point too cos I want one for my custom RotF Bludgeon.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 4:58am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Brawl is more scrawny looking as a voyager than the THICC leader. I may pick him up on sale. Lockdown seem pretty fine too, despite the obligatory arm panels and backpack. Maybe on sale too. Jazz and Megs are day one sure buy, no matter the price.
Lockdown has an insane amount of detail especially for a Deluxe figure. And despite not being as tall as Prime he's certainly bulky enough and well proportioned enough that he looks like he can take him on. Wish my photo skills could do justice to the figures but here's a slightly blurry shot anyways.
Also thanks muchly to Munkky for the spare Ratchet & Bee backdrop cards. They just arrived a few minutes ago and were better packaged than some of the actual full on boxed Transformers I've ordered in past year or so
Giving one of those to DotM Barricade (that I'm using at least until the possiblity of an actual Studio figure is made) and haven't decided which figure to use on the other. Will need some voyager backdrops at some point too cos I want one for my custom RotF Bludgeon.
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Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2018 @ 8:42am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2018 @ 8:42am CDT
Didn't realize before now how Brawl's turret just hangs off his back like a really long third peg-leg.
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:53pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:53pm CDT
So there is probably a Barricade coming as part of the Bee movie (since I just saw a bit about Jess Harnell confirming he's voicing Barricade in the film). Possibly 80's cop car? Could be cool.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 31st, 2018 @ 5:04pm CDT
Looking at the figures included that came from AoE and TLK, and even many of the DotM figures, all scale well with each other, even if the DotM felt a bit chinsier. The Studio series line could EASILY have kept that scale and thus made the new modern versions of movie 1, 2, and 3 characters in scale with the new post DotM guys.
So by extent, you could have had every character from movies 4 and 5 line up with the new toys from 1, 2, and 3, thus making a perfect shelf across the whole movie board. And we have the proper robot mode scale for pretty much everyone save Slug and Strafe (and even Strafe is debatable), so it would not have been that much of a stretch. It could have been perfect!
The only voyager Primes I own are the Evasion and TLK ones, and I did not grab the TLK one since I had a TLK voyager in there already.
But see my above comments, AOE and TLK were all in scale with one another save pretty much Slug and the non-movie dinobots, this was a perfect chance to continue that scale, but instead they fudged it all up and went smaller for many of these guys.
As a movie lover, it's a hard pill to swallow spending $22 on Jazz or Bee, and Ratchet should have been a voyager. The fact that he keeps getting deluxe toys infuriates me to no end.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 31st, 2018 @ 5:04pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:The pics above clearly show that 2007 Ratchet is stupidly LARGE. Damn, he's almost a leader by today's standards.
And simultaneously showing that the perfect sized Ratchet is around halfway between him and the shrimpy SS guy
Perfect size compared to what though?
Looking at the figures included that came from AoE and TLK, and even many of the DotM figures, all scale well with each other, even if the DotM felt a bit chinsier. The Studio series line could EASILY have kept that scale and thus made the new modern versions of movie 1, 2, and 3 characters in scale with the new post DotM guys.
So by extent, you could have had every character from movies 4 and 5 line up with the new toys from 1, 2, and 3, thus making a perfect shelf across the whole movie board. And we have the proper robot mode scale for pretty much everyone save Slug and Strafe (and even Strafe is debatable), so it would not have been that much of a stretch. It could have been perfect!
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Studio is it's OWN scale. It's a movie line where all the figures are intentionally designed to try and be in scale with each other as best as can be allowed given budget and other reasons. Previous movie lines did not have this focus. Characters were simply placed into whichever class their a toy could be made for and the toy was made best to fit that particular budget class and that's why you got multiple size versions of the same character in the same line, (for example in Dark of the Moon there is Ironhide in Deluxe, Voyager AND Leader class all at the same time). If previous movie figures fit into Studio scale it is by chance, not by design (especially since the size classes have all actually changed physical sizes and costs in the past 11 years since the first movie line). In this scale Optimus Prime and Megatron are NOT Leader class. They are Voyager so that photo having the Leader class figures is way off anyways.
The only voyager Primes I own are the Evasion and TLK ones, and I did not grab the TLK one since I had a TLK voyager in there already.
But see my above comments, AOE and TLK were all in scale with one another save pretty much Slug and the non-movie dinobots, this was a perfect chance to continue that scale, but instead they fudged it all up and went smaller for many of these guys.
As a movie lover, it's a hard pill to swallow spending $22 on Jazz or Bee, and Ratchet should have been a voyager. The fact that he keeps getting deluxe toys infuriates me to no end.
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