New MP-21R Bumble Red Body Image - Cybertron Satellite Stores Limited Edition

Seems an odd omission to make, leaving the battle mask out- as this is a representation of one of Bumblebee's original G1 toys, which had the battle mask/faceplate. If it was marketed as a different character I'd understand, but the only other characters who share his altmode are Volks (who's orange) and Glyph (who's blue)

I'd love a MP Glyph out of this. Easy way for Takara to add another fembot to the line at the same time they make more money to justify the mold.

The battle mask didn't come with MP-21. It was an Amazon-exclusive add-on, like MP-12's pointy pile-drivers, MP-17's missile launchers and MP-20's hypnochip lunchbox thing.
Yet people seem to (incorrectly) assume it's an omission or removal (despite not also complaining about the "omission" of MP-21G's jetpack).

Deathsanras wrote:The battle mask didn't come with MP-21. It was an Amazon-exclusive add-on, like MP-12's pointy pile-drivers and MP-17's missile launchers.
Yet people seem to (incorrectly) assume it's an omission or removal (despite not also complaining about the "omission" of MP-21G's jetpack).

Lol my mp bumblebee has the battle mask. And he didn't come from Amazon.
Not even that Lil baggie or paper.
It was inside the instruction sheet.

Deathsaurus1 wrote:Lol my mp bumblebee has the battle mask. And he didn't come from Amazon.
Not even that Lil baggie or paper.
It was inside the instruction sheet.

Then it's either a KO or your seller opened it up to slip in the extra Amazon stuff, because packed-in faces come in their own slot in the plastic bubble, not in the instructions.
Add-on bonuses, obviously, do not.

Bumblebee seeks blood.

Deathsanras wrote:

Deathsaurus1 wrote:Lol my mp bumblebee has the battle mask. And he didn't come from Amazon.
Not even that Lil baggie or paper.
It was inside the instruction sheet.

Then it's either a KO or your seller opened it up to slip in the extra Amazon stuff, because packed-in faces come in their own slot in the plastic bubble, not in the instructions.
Add-on bonuses, obviously, do not.

Is the gradient on the transformers logo incorrect on the KO version? My box has the correct logo
Can you tell me differences between KO and official on the figure itself?
And was the coin amazon exclusive?

Deathsaurus1 wrote:

Deathsanras wrote:

Deathsaurus1 wrote:Lol my mp bumblebee has the battle mask. And he didn't come from Amazon.
Not even that Lil baggie or paper.
It was inside the instruction sheet.

Then it's either a KO or your seller opened it up to slip in the extra Amazon stuff, because packed-in faces come in their own slot in the plastic bubble, not in the instructions.
Add-on bonuses, obviously, do not.

Is the gradient on the transformers logo incorrect on the KO version? My box has the correct logo
Can you tell me differences between KO and official on the figure itself?
And was the coin amazon exclusive?

Coin for Asian release. As for it being a KO, either you got the amazon exclusive version or your vendor was just a nice guy.

Deathsaurus1 wrote:

Deathsanras wrote:

Deathsaurus1 wrote:Lol my mp bumblebee has the battle mask. And he didn't come from Amazon.
Not even that Lil baggie or paper.
It was inside the instruction sheet.

Then it's either a KO or your seller opened it up to slip in the extra Amazon stuff, because packed-in faces come in their own slot in the plastic bubble, not in the instructions.
Add-on bonuses, obviously, do not.

Is the gradient on the transformers logo incorrect on the KO version? My box has the correct logo
Can you tell me differences between KO and official on the figure itself?
And was the coin amazon exclusive?

Coin for Asian release. As for it being a KO, either you got the amazon exclusive version or your vendor was just a nice guy.

Red Bumblebee should have had a regular Bumblebee face and the face shield. It should've been based off the G2 version. Doesn't really make sense to have the regular face. Still a nice exclusive, just an odd choice for the face.

Seibertron wrote:Red Bumblebee should have had a regular Bumblebee face and the face shield. It should've been based off the G2 version. Doesn't really make sense to have the regular face. Still a nice exclusive, just an odd choice for the face.

I can only figure that this way TT makes money by not including the mask, and offering it at the same price, or more (I assume)

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Red Bumblebee should have had a regular Bumblebee face and the face shield. It should've been based off the G2 version. Doesn't really make sense to have the regular face. Still a nice exclusive, just an odd choice for the face.

I can only figure that this way TT makes money by not including the mask, and offering it at the same price, or more (I assume)

Except I don't think the battle mask is offered even at an extra price, which I'd be OK with if they did.

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Red Bumblebee should have had a regular Bumblebee face and the face shield. It should've been based off the G2 version. Doesn't really make sense to have the regular face. Still a nice exclusive, just an odd choice for the face.

I can only figure that this way TT makes money by not including the mask, and offering it at the same price, or more (I assume)

Except I don't think the battle mask is offered even at an extra price, which I'd be OK with if they did.

Yeah, if you ask me, the only versions of of this mold, both existing and hypothetical ones, that don't really need the battle mask are the regular cartoon-based MP-21 and a hypothetical (if unlikely) Bug Bite release. All others (G-2 Ver., Red Ver., a hypthetical black redeco, a hypothetical Glyph redeco) would need the battle mask since they'd be based on versions of the original battle-masked toy.

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Red Bumblebee should have had a regular Bumblebee face and the face shield. It should've been based off the G2 version. Doesn't really make sense to have the regular face. Still a nice exclusive, just an odd choice for the face.

I can only figure that this way TT makes money by not including the mask, and offering it at the same price, or more (I assume)

Except I don't think the battle mask is offered even at an extra price, which I'd be OK with if they did.

Yeah, if you ask me, the only versions of of this mold, both existing and hypothetical ones, that don't really need the battle mask are the regular cartoon-based MP-21 and a hypothetical (if unlikely) Bug Bite release. All others (G-2 Ver., Red Ver., a hypthetical black redeco, a hypothetical Glyph redeco) would need the battle mask since they'd be based on versions of the original battle-masked toy.

Alright, but didn't goldbug come with it?

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Red Bumblebee should have had a regular Bumblebee face and the face shield. It should've been based off the G2 version. Doesn't really make sense to have the regular face. Still a nice exclusive, just an odd choice for the face.

I can only figure that this way TT makes money by not including the mask, and offering it at the same price, or more (I assume)

Except I don't think the battle mask is offered even at an extra price, which I'd be OK with if they did.

Yeah, if you ask me, the only versions of of this mold, both existing and hypothetical ones, that don't really need the battle mask are the regular cartoon-based MP-21 and a hypothetical (if unlikely) Bug Bite release. All others (G-2 Ver., Red Ver., a hypthetical black redeco, a hypothetical Glyph redeco) would need the battle mask since they'd be based on versions of the original battle-masked toy.

Alright, but didn't goldbug come with it?

There is no MP Goldbug. There is only the regular version, the G2 version, and now this red version.

Goldbug deserves/warrants his own mold.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Red Bumblebee should have had a regular Bumblebee face and the face shield. It should've been based off the G2 version. Doesn't really make sense to have the regular face. Still a nice exclusive, just an odd choice for the face.

I can only figure that this way TT makes money by not including the mask, and offering it at the same price, or more (I assume)

Except I don't think the battle mask is offered even at an extra price, which I'd be OK with if they did.

Yeah, if you ask me, the only versions of of this mold, both existing and hypothetical ones, that don't really need the battle mask are the regular cartoon-based MP-21 and a hypothetical (if unlikely) Bug Bite release. All others (G-2 Ver., Red Ver., a hypthetical black redeco, a hypothetical Glyph redeco) would need the battle mask since they'd be based on versions of the original battle-masked toy.

Alright, but didn't goldbug come with it?

There is no MP Goldbug. There is only the regular version, the G2 version, and now this red version.

Goldbug deserves/warrants his own mold.

Oh, I was thinkin' of the gold one with the cool mask, guess that's the g2 one then?

I would have got this if it had been a new character.

I'm currently in Hong Kong. I saw the possibility to pre-order the red Bumblebee here at an action figures store for 268 Hong Kong Dollar which is 34.58 USD.

In Chris Deburgh's voice: "Lady bug in red... is riding with me!"

huryochagi wrote:I'm currently in Hong Kong. I saw the possibility to pre-order the red Bumblebee here at an action figures store for 268 Hong Kong Dollar which is 34.58 USD.

And with battlemask...

fenrir72 wrote:

Deathsaurus1 wrote:

Deathsanras wrote:

Deathsaurus1 wrote:Lol my mp bumblebee has the battle mask. And he didn't come from Amazon.
Not even that Lil baggie or paper.
It was inside the instruction sheet.

Then it's either a KO or your seller opened it up to slip in the extra Amazon stuff, because packed-in faces come in their own slot in the plastic bubble, not in the instructions.
Add-on bonuses, obviously, do not.

Is the gradient on the transformers logo incorrect on the KO version? My box has the correct logo
Can you tell me differences between KO and official on the figure itself?
And was the coin amazon exclusive?

Coin for Asian release. As for it being a KO, either you got the amazon exclusive version or your vendor was just a nice guy.

There is an KO of mp bumblebee but it has the same takara tomy logo but its packaging is lighter and not as dark as the offical/takasa tony verison

Torneira wrote:

huryochagi wrote:I'm currently in Hong Kong. I saw the possibility to pre-order the red Bumblebee here at an action figures store for 268 Hong Kong Dollar which is 34.58 USD.

And with battlemask...

Wait... Idk their was a mask....

Starsaber468 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Deathsaurus1 wrote:

Deathsanras wrote:

Deathsaurus1 wrote:Lol my mp bumblebee has the battle mask. And he didn't come from Amazon.
Not even that Lil baggie or paper.
It was inside the instruction sheet.

Then it's either a KO or your seller opened it up to slip in the extra Amazon stuff, because packed-in faces come in their own slot in the plastic bubble, not in the instructions.
Add-on bonuses, obviously, do not.

Is the gradient on the transformers logo incorrect on the KO version? My box has the correct logo
Can you tell me differences between KO and official on the figure itself?
And was the coin amazon exclusive?

Coin for Asian release. As for it being a KO, either you got the amazon exclusive version or your vendor was just a nice guy.

There is an KO of mp bumblebee but it has the same takara tomy logo but its packaging is lighter and not as dark as the offical/takasa tony verison

I got the Amazon extra slid in my case as well; I can verify that my seller is legit and the order was not placed through Amazon.
It was a nice, unexpected add on, regardless of origin.

It would be nice if some of these people would, instead of stealing Takara's molds and making KOs, make their own figures and not be miserable thieves. I'm so hateful towards KOs. I got some oversized Cybertron Starsabor bots and some other KOs in my time at Costa Rica. KOs are really common there. For the amount of REAL Transformers they have, they have like 2 or 3 times as many KOs. At least at the popular Costa Rican toy stores.

Whenever the KO topic comes up I always like posting this video:


Anyhow now that THAT is out of the way...

I am wondering if Takara will milk the hell out of this Bumblebee mold. I am kinda wondering if they'll come out with a Wasp, Glyph, Bugbite, or maybe even a Goldbug. It seems like something they'd do. I'm a big Wasp/Waspinator fan so that's the one I'm anticipating.

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SillySpringer wrote:It would be nice if some of these people would, instead of stealing Takara's molds and making KOs, make their own figures and not be miserable thieves. I'm so hateful towards KOs. I got some oversized Cybertron Starsabor bots and some other KOs in my time at Costa Rica. KOs are really common there. For the amount of REAL Transformers they have, they have like 2 or 3 times as many KOs. At least at the popular Costa Rican toy stores.

Whenever the KO topic comes up I always like posting this video:


Anyhow now that THAT is out of the way...

I am wondering if Takara will milk the hell out of this Bumblebee mold. I am kinda wondering if they'll come out with a Wasp, Glyph, Bugbite, or maybe even a Goldbug. It seems like something they'd do. I'm a big Wasp/Waspinator fan so that's the one I'm anticipating.

Already happening(the Lambor mold, MP-10,Seekers). Just waiting for a retooled BB for CJ.

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:It would be nice if some of these people would, instead of stealing Takara's molds and making KOs, make their own figures and not be miserable thieves. I'm so hateful towards KOs. I got some oversized Cybertron Starsabor bots and some other KOs in my time at Costa Rica. KOs are really common there. For the amount of REAL Transformers they have, they have like 2 or 3 times as many KOs. At least at the popular Costa Rican toy stores.

Whenever the KO topic comes up I always like posting this video:


Anyhow now that THAT is out of the way...

I am wondering if Takara will milk the hell out of this Bumblebee mold. I am kinda wondering if they'll come out with a Wasp, Glyph, Bugbite, or maybe even a Goldbug. It seems like something they'd do. I'm a big Wasp/Waspinator fan so that's the one I'm anticipating.

Already happening(the Lambor mold, MP-10,Seekers). Just waiting for a retooled BB for CJ.

Nice figure still awaiting cliffjumper figure to be made not bumblebee repaint , takara should make repaint him in classic colors two black stripes down middle for next repaint of this action figure

It's odd how this actually looks like a red bumblebee to me and not cliffjumper...

Rainmaker wrote:It's odd how this actually looks like a red bumblebee to me and not cliffjumper...

Uhhhhm.he's a re-colored BB. Not CJ. Nothing odd here.

A Blue one and a white one would be the obvious cash cow for the KO makers you'd think - especially with a more aggressive face for Bugbite and a the battle mask for Glyph.

But then you'd think someone would say "Have you seen Slicer" to them too - as they'd sell a lot of that too if they could make that too.

But the recoloured Bumblebee's would be easier as it's just a straight colour swap job.

I would actually PREFER to own a KO G2 Sideswip with the proper head over the one with the official oddly changed one - I much prefer the more restrained head - I suppose I'm in the opposite position to some in that I want one with the incorrect parts. But then I also prefer the KO Sideswipe head too - the Official one looks like one of the designers copied a human likeness of one of their friends onto a robot and it looks as much Japanese human look as G1 Galvatron does too. Red Alert has no such issue so again I prefer Sideswipe to not look quite so Japanese as the official one does.. as it's not like it's an established likeness for him to look like that - so I consider the Official Takara version to be well "wrong" looking.

dragons wrote:
Nice figure still awaiting cliffjumper figure to be made not bumblebee repaint , takara should make repaint him in classic colors two black stripes down middle for next repaint of this action figure

I would love to see Bugbite, Glyph, Wasp, and possibly Tailgate retools. I especially would love to see Glyph and Wasp.

fenrir72 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:It's odd how this actually looks like a red bumblebee to me and not cliffjumper...

Uhhhhm.he's a re-colored BB. Not CJ. Nothing odd here.

I know but most fans would think it is Cliffjumper at first sight, like me.

plsdontsueme

Rainmaker wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:It's odd how this actually looks like a red bumblebee to me and not cliffjumper...

Uhhhhm.he's a re-colored BB. Not CJ. Nothing odd here.

I know but most fans would think it is Cliffjumper at first sight, like me.

plsdontsueme

No. No we wouldn't lol.

bigcee66 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:It's odd how this actually looks like a red bumblebee to me and not cliffjumper...

Uhhhhm.he's a re-colored BB. Not CJ. Nothing odd here.

I know but most fans would think it is Cliffjumper at first sight, like me.

plsdontsueme

No. No we wouldn't lol.

What.

I don't know you guys anymore

It's cliffjumpeeerrrrrr

Rainmaker wrote:

bigcee66 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:It's odd how this actually looks like a red bumblebee to me and not cliffjumper...

Uhhhhm.he's a re-colored BB. Not CJ. Nothing odd here.

I know but most fans would think it is Cliffjumper at first sight, like me.

plsdontsueme

No. No we wouldn't lol.

What.

I don't know you guys anymore

It's cliffjumpeeerrrrrr

Yeah, I thought the figure was Cliffjumper too when I first saw it

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:

bigcee66 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:It's odd how this actually looks like a red bumblebee to me and not cliffjumper...

Uhhhhm.he's a re-colored BB. Not CJ. Nothing odd here.

I know but most fans would think it is Cliffjumper at first sight, like me.

plsdontsueme

No. No we wouldn't lol.

What.

I don't know you guys anymore

It's cliffjumpeeerrrrrr

Yeah, I thought the figure was Cliffjumper too when I first saw it

see guys seeeeeee

I am thinking about getting MP Red Bumblebee and cutting the horns a bit to resemble Cliffjumper more.


Transformers Masterpiece Bumblebee Red (Bumble Red Body) Gallery

I really am doubting at this point that Takara will release an MP Cliffjumper.

I am also kinda disliking how G2 Bee looks now. I used to like the gold color, but in higher quality pictures like the one above, I can tell that it looks like just gold plastic rather than paint. I really want to get original Bee but he is just too pricey just for Spike or Daniel or whoever he is. I want this mold so bad though.

SillySpringer wrote:I am thinking about getting MP Red Bumblebee and cutting the horns a bit to resemble Cliffjumper more.


Transformers Masterpiece Bumblebee Red (Bumble Red Body) Gallery

I really am doubting at this point that Takara will release an MP Cliffjumper.

I am also kinda disliking how G2 Bee looks now. I used to like the gold color, but in higher quality pictures like the one above, I can tell that it looks like just gold plastic rather than paint. I really want to get original Bee but he is just too pricey just for Spike or Daniel or whoever he is. I want this mold so bad though.

It still wouldn't be Cliffjumper, as he's a different model car (Porsche 924) and not a retool of Bee here.

And don't loose hope! MP Clffjumper may still be in the plans, but don't expect the car mode to look like the original Super-Deformed toy. It worked out for Bumblebee, but for Cliff:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:It still wouldn't be Cliffjumper, as he's a different model car (Porsche 924) and not a retool of Bee here.

And don't loose hope! MP Clffjumper may still be in the plans, but don't expect the car mode to look like the original Super-Deformed toy. It worked out for Bumblebee, but for Cliff:

Do you think this was an official leak?



If it was, then most likely it's been cancelled since that was two years ago. That "leak" came out in early 2014.

I noticed that one of the images I posted above disappeared. Weird how every time I post that old leak picture of "MP Cliffjumper", it vanishes. Whatever. It's annoying.

Anyway, I just figured out probably why they chose the vehicle mode for MP Bee that they did over the G1 alt mode! Since the model they used is a longer and less "squished" vehicle, maybe they did this to plan ahead and more easily do a Cliffjumper retool? I can totally see this...



Being retooled into this...



But NOT from this vehicle.



See what I mean? Maybe this means hope of a Cliffjumper after-all. Of course, they would have to squish the Porsche a bit just to fit the aesthetic, but it's not impossible!

SillySpringer wrote:I noticed that one of the images I posted above disappeared. Weird how every time I post that old leak picture of "MP Cliffjumper", it vanishes. Whatever. It's annoying.

TFormers don't allow hotlinking. It worked for you initially because it was in your cache. Guessing you restarted your computer thus when you came back, it was no longer in your cache.

It's still there though so it definitely hasn't disappeared. It's just your computer.

Burn wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I noticed that one of the images I posted above disappeared. Weird how every time I post that old leak picture of "MP Cliffjumper", it vanishes. Whatever. It's annoying.

TFormers don't allow hotlinking. It worked for you initially because it was in your cache. Guessing you restarted your computer thus when you came back, it was no longer in your cache.

It's still there though so it definitely hasn't disappeared. It's just your computer.

Hmm thanks for letting me know.

Glyph anyone?

Why does this thread keep getting necroed? Let it die in peace! The MP Megatron and Cliffjumper rumor was debunked years ago. Why not start a NEW thread on speculation for an upcoming MP Cliffjumper instead? Every time this pops up, some poor sod is going to think something FINALLY came of the rumor, only to find it was all bunk to begin with.

SillySpringer wrote:Glyph anyone?

Upload it at postimage. Less hassle. I want to see it too....the CJ image you mentioned.

fenrir72 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Glyph anyone?

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Upload it at postimage. Less hassle. I want to see it too....the CJ image you mentioned.

I can see it just fine. Here's another upload of the same image I did. It's a digibash I did of MP G2 Bumblebee into Glyph.



Here's the original image:

Ah. I thought it was for Cliffjumper. Nice work on Glyph btw.

fenrir72 wrote:Ah. I thought it was for Cliffjumper. Nice work on Glyph btw.

Thanks! I made the contrast on the legs and arms higher to give it a chrome finish look. This is actually my second digibash, with my first being "Combiner Wars Scoop". I didn't like that one very much because the pictures I chose were not very good. I hope Takara comes out with both an MP Glyph and Cliffjumper!

I shouldn't even have to say this but blease keep your digibashes to the appropriate threads.

Burn wrote:I shouldn't even have to say this but blease keep your digibashes to the appropriate threads.

Normally speaking but we were talking about possible Bumblebee retools and repaints. I'll keep them out of here from now on though.