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TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures

Monday, January 26th, 2015 8:37PM CST

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Looks like this is a day for new TFSS (Transformers subscription service) images. On the same day, the Transformers Club official facebook page has posted a picture of the upcoming Serpentor figure while E-bay seller lena81822 has posted images of Carzap and Lio Convoy, the later we've already reported earlier.

Here are the mirrored pictures of Serpentor and Carzap who use the Generations Ratbat and Generations Bumblebee (deluxe).

Transformers News: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpentor inhand pictures

Transformers News: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpentor inhand pictures

Transformers News: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpentor inhand pictures

Transformers News: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpentor inhand pictures
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Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643444)
Posted by RiddlerJ on January 26th, 2015 @ 9:21pm CST
I like that Serpentor.

I would totally eat up a Botcon set with G.I. Joe Transformers.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643449)
Posted by Bounti76 on January 26th, 2015 @ 9:46pm CST
Carzap looks great...I hope we get a repaint of him as Windbreaker.

Sepent O.R. looks worse than his first revealed pictures. His "gold" is the color of earwax. Cannot unsee that.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643452)
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2015 @ 9:57pm CST
Bounti76 wrote:Carzap looks great...I hope we get a repaint of him as Windbreaker.

Sepent O.R. looks worse than his first revealed pictures. His "gold" is the color of earwax. Cannot unsee that.


I didnt know that was gold till you mentioned it
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643453)
Posted by Mkall on January 26th, 2015 @ 9:58pm CST
Carzap is nice, though a little less interesting than was first teased.

I like Serpentor's chest painted to look like a serpent's face.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643455)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 26th, 2015 @ 10:25pm CST
Sepent O.R. looks goddamn atrocious, if it were actual gold, and now wax in color, I might change my tune; but Takara Tomy's Senator Ratbat is probably the best use of the mold in general.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643459)
Posted by shajaki on January 26th, 2015 @ 10:32pm CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sepent O.R. looks goddamn atrocious, if it were actual gold, and now wax in color, I might change my tune; but Takara Tomy's Senator Ratbat is probably the best use of the mold in general.
while my feelings arent quite as strong, i do agree. the preliminary photoshopped gold was a lot nicer.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643468)
Posted by megatronus on January 26th, 2015 @ 11:04pm CST
That Carzap is looking awesome... Not sure how I feel about the chromed weapons, but that chromed helmet is sleek.

Serpent O.R. is less to my liking... Why did they have to replace the gold with that brown? Ugh.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643469)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2015 @ 11:07pm CST
Serpent O.R. is my Number 1 Want of this year's subscription service, so much so that I specifically bought the pink versions of the Gacha Arms Microns Gob and Zad so that they could form his Serpent Scepter.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643471)
Posted by megatronus on January 26th, 2015 @ 11:12pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Serpent O.R. is my Number 1 Want of this year's subscription service, so much so that I specifically bought the pink versions of the Gacha Arms Microns Gob and Zad so that they could form his Serpent Scepter.

Pics??
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643476)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2015 @ 11:26pm CST
megatronus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Serpent O.R. is my Number 1 Want of this year's subscription service, so much so that I specifically bought the pink versions of the Gacha Arms Microns Gob and Zad so that they could form his Serpent Scepter.

Pics??
Pages 11 and 19 of the comic show the best looks at it - http://transformersclub.com/Timelines9_2014.pdf

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As for toy pics, I don't have any of my own, but Jesse Wittenrich Tweeted how to do with the toys, using Generations Scourge and the black versions of the Microns as a demonstration:

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Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643489)
Posted by prjkt on January 27th, 2015 @ 12:44am CST
I think I have transparent versions of those a microns, but not much interest in Serpent.O.R. Might reserve judgement until I see in person.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643490)
Posted by durroth on January 27th, 2015 @ 12:45am CST
... is it too late to beg for the snake "eye" tampos to be changed? I can live with the less stunning colors because I figured that the beautiful metallic deco they teased us with was too good to be true. I think the yellow will look better in person. But those eye tampos... for the love of god, at least remove the black outlines or do SOMETHING to make them look less like they were drawn on in MS Paint.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643495)
Posted by prjkt on January 27th, 2015 @ 1:34am CST
heh, so it turns out my Microns were actually purple, not blue. Still not pink, but I kinda like it...

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It's not like I have any other use for any of that micron set...
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643525)
Posted by robotmel on January 27th, 2015 @ 5:29am CST
Mkall wrote:Image

Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm so getting this Lio Convoy. I love how he's been baptized into full machine ditching the beast alt-mode. ;)^ :VEHI:
;)
I love a nice repaint as much as the next bot but I have never been a fan of the 'Beast Era' of Transformers but I like the idea of integrating older fiction/eras as current earth based alt modes. ;) :-?

I would like to see more of this happening. Im surprised the much loved Dinobots never got a alt mode vehicle make-over?
That would have been so easy to do, so easy..! :P
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643535)
Posted by prjkt on January 27th, 2015 @ 7:30am CST
War within Titanium Grimlock

Some sort of tank thing
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643538)
Posted by william-james88 on January 27th, 2015 @ 7:40am CST
prjkt wrote:War within Titanium Grimlock

Some sort of tank thing


Yeah, and no one liked it

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There was also Alternators Grimlock

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Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643542)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 27th, 2015 @ 7:55am CST
And this isn't an Earth vehicle mode anyway.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643549)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 27th, 2015 @ 8:09am CST
megatronus wrote:Serpent O.R. is less to my liking... Why did they have to replace the gold with that brown? Ugh.


Let's travel to a different universe where Serpent O.R. did get gold plastic:

"Will it have Gold Plastic Syndrome?"
"OMG! GPS! This figure is doomed just the G.I. Joe original!"
"Why didn't the club go for a safer color, like light brown?"

>:oP
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643552)
Posted by megatronus on January 27th, 2015 @ 8:28am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
megatronus wrote:Serpent O.R. is less to my liking... Why did they have to replace the gold with that brown? Ugh.


Let's travel to a different universe where Serpent O.R. did get gold plastic:

"Will it have Gold Plastic Syndrome?"
"OMG! GPS! This figure is doomed just the G.I. Joe original!"
"Why didn't the club go for a safer color, like light brown?"

>:oP

So you have a problem with gold paint? :roll:

Besides, gold plastic syndrome has not been an issue in recent times. >:oP
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643553)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 27th, 2015 @ 8:38am CST
megatronus wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
megatronus wrote:Serpent O.R. is less to my liking... Why did they have to replace the gold with that brown? Ugh.


Let's travel to a different universe where Serpent O.R. did get gold plastic:

"Will it have Gold Plastic Syndrome?"
"OMG! GPS! This figure is doomed just the G.I. Joe original!"
"Why didn't the club go for a safer color, like light brown?"

>:oP

So you have a problem with gold paint? :roll:

Besides, gold plastic syndrome has not been an issue in recent times. >:oP


Some people are just that scared of GPS happening and watching their figures crumble into dust. :-s Personally I'm glad FunPub went with that brown.

And no, gold paint does not cause, or affect GPS.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643555)
Posted by jogunwarrior on January 27th, 2015 @ 8:51am CST
I'm failing to see the appeal in this figure, though I can say that about a number of the Clubs Subscription figures. I just don't get it.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643567)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 27th, 2015 @ 9:34am CST
I have to say... if they could work out the deal and release a set of GI Joe crossover transformers... I'd buy the whole line. Just not changing into a giant Baroness, Wild Bill, etc. That's ridiculous.

By preference, I'd love to see a couple of leader characters — tank megatron, truck prime in camp (like Bape Prime) to lead them — plus a full line of new characters that transform into the classic Joe vehicles... all with great bulky mech designs and accessories, missile batteries, etc. (Kinda like some of the Power Core bots looked.) I can dream.

Meanwhile, Serpentor is an excellent first venture into that crossover world. Bravo.

And I'd add that there are more things that control the color than just picking it out of some swatch books. Toys are made from different plastics, each with its own tolerances, brittleness, ability to accept paint (or not at all, sometimes. See the unpainted side panels of the Million Publishing GoShooter for instance.)

I'd wager they chose the best gold color they could choose given the plastics the toy has to be made from.

Remember how the top hood of G1 Scrapper is a duller green than the rest of him? This is the same issue. Softer plastic has different color restrictions.

So as the other options, we might be looking at bright gold parts mixed with "earwax" parts... or painted bright gold with oddly-placed unpainted panels.

You have to know they are making the best choices available to deliver us a great looking toy (that won't break.) Let's cut them some slack. It's not like someone there just prefers a duller brown. I'm sure it's a necessary evil, if anything.

Still looks really good. If it bothers me, maybe I'll get some gold paint and try my luck. Heh.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643571)
Posted by megatronus on January 27th, 2015 @ 9:46am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
megatronus wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
megatronus wrote:Serpent O.R. is less to my liking... Why did they have to replace the gold with that brown? Ugh.


Let's travel to a different universe where Serpent O.R. did get gold plastic:

"Will it have Gold Plastic Syndrome?"
"OMG! GPS! This figure is doomed just the G.I. Joe original!"
"Why didn't the club go for a safer color, like light brown?"

>:oP

So you have a problem with gold paint? :roll:

Besides, gold plastic syndrome has not been an issue in recent times. >:oP


Some people are just that scared of GPS happening and watching their figures crumble into dust. :-s Personally I'm glad FunPub went with that brown.

And no, gold paint does not cause, or affect GPS.

You're reading me incorrectly. I do understand that gold plastic system is a problem with plastic, not paint. #-o

If you're THAT scared of gold plastic, gold paint is a solution that will fix that ugly as sin LPSS (Linkin Park Soundwave Syndrome).
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643575)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 27th, 2015 @ 9:50am CST
You mean that LPS set that came with the Mustard Sentry???? LOL.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643576)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 27th, 2015 @ 9:50am CST
jogunwarrior wrote:I'm failing to see the appeal in this figure,
Which one?
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643588)
Posted by Rated X on January 27th, 2015 @ 10:08am CST
Well serpentor is definitely the dud of the set. What happened to the shiny green paintjob the club teased ? I thought it was going to be the shiny plastic used on senator ratbat but in green ? Instead they deliver the puke bot. On a side note all this detailed talk about the color of earwax is very disturbing. Use Debrox guys...
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643596)
Posted by Madeus Prime on January 27th, 2015 @ 10:31am CST
Sorry, but they're just icky so far. Serpent OR is snot brown, Carzap is just bland, and Leo Convoy's head looks ghastly. Out of all of these, Tarantulas seems to be the only one worth getting.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643616)
Posted by robotmel on January 27th, 2015 @ 11:28am CST
:???:
So, what is going on with the KO-tastic deco of Carzap? Is this Generation 2 all over again! :-? :P
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Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643624)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 27th, 2015 @ 11:55am CST
All things considered, I think it's probably a GOOD thing that some people don't like the club exclusives.

If the mainstream Bumblebee-hording, Bay-following, just-discovered-Transformers-because-of-the-live-action-movie masses were on board, then I'd think TFCC didn't do their homework or dig deep enough. (Not saying those fans are bad... they're actually helping keep the franchise alive and funding this whole adult niche market franchise. Cheers for those protoform fans.)

BUT I'm glad to be in the niche that these toys are aiming for, and I tip my hat to them for the efforts. >:oP

I'm glad some of these are home runs in their final form. Krok looks breathtaking. CarZap looks on point... and will be a neat addition to the G2 shelves along with G2 Screamer. Looking forward to seeing more final samples.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643629)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 27th, 2015 @ 12:11pm CST
robotmel wrote::???:
So, what is going on with the KO-tastic deco of Carzap? Is this Generation 2 all over again! :-? :P
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Funny you should say that, as Zap (aka Windbreaker in the US) is considered a G2-original mold ;)

Carzap was to be the Japanese release of the G2 Zap/Windbreaker mold, as part of a line called Block Town. The line features building block sets, similar to Lego sets, with a Transformer: that's what the deco and the included Kre-O set were inspired by. Sadly, the line was never released, but images of what could have been are available online.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643641)
Posted by jogunwarrior on January 27th, 2015 @ 12:42pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
jogunwarrior wrote:I'm failing to see the appeal in this figure,
Which one?


The Lio Convoy was the one I was looking at. Though I suppose I could say the same for the Serpent-OR figure. And while I like the overall aesthetic of Carzap, I am tiring of that mold.
The only Series 3 figure I would consider getting would be Krok. I think he looks awesome!
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643643)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 27th, 2015 @ 12:44pm CST
Giving the different versions of that mold a bit different transformation (ie. doors along the side of the arms like the original G1 toy) helps differentiate them on the shelf. There is also a 3P chest coming for Nightbeat.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643654)
Posted by megatronus on January 27th, 2015 @ 1:10pm CST
gothsaurus wrote:Giving the different versions of that mold a bit different transformation (ie. doors along the side of the arms like the original G1 toy) helps differentiate them on the shelf. There is also a 3P chest coming for Nightbeat.

Is there a 3rd Party thread for that somewhere?
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643663)
Posted by william-james88 on January 27th, 2015 @ 1:35pm CST
megatronus wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:Giving the different versions of that mold a bit different transformation (ie. doors along the side of the arms like the original G1 toy) helps differentiate them on the shelf. There is also a 3P chest coming for Nightbeat.

Is there a 3rd Party thread for that somewhere?


Oh man, you wish!
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643675)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 27th, 2015 @ 2:12pm CST
I saw pics from some convention. It is coming.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643687)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 27th, 2015 @ 2:56pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
prjkt wrote:War within Titanium Grimlock

Some sort of tank thing


Yeah, and no one liked it

Image

There was also Alternators Grimlock

Image


Titanium wasn't implemented correclty and it's distribution sucked like eggs.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643695)
Posted by william-james88 on January 27th, 2015 @ 3:04pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:
Titanium wasn't implemented correclty and it's distribution sucked like eggs.


Cold be worse, titanium megatron could have been readily available for you to purchase. Bet your glad that didnt happen.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643701)
Posted by Flashwave on January 27th, 2015 @ 3:15pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Titanium wasn't implemented correclty and it's distribution sucked like eggs.


Cold be worse, titanium megatron could have been readily available for you to purchase. Bet your glad that didnt happen.

Which one, there were two. One was an Earth tank with flopping hip joints and looked like it wasmade out of a shoebox and some paper towel rolls for Arts and Crafts day. The other one was a diecast War Within transforming Megs thatwas a truly awesome faithful sculpt. That whole line suffered from being too heavy for its own good though
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643706)
Posted by william-james88 on January 27th, 2015 @ 3:19pm CST
Flashwave wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Titanium wasn't implemented correclty and it's distribution sucked like eggs.


Cold be worse, titanium megatron could have been readily available for you to purchase. Bet your glad that didnt happen.

Which one, there were two. One was an Earth tank with flopping hip joints and looked like it wasmade out of a shoebox and some paper towel rolls for Arts and Crafts day. The other one was a diecast War Within transforming Megs thatwas a truly awesome faithful sculpt. That whole line suffered from being too heavy for its own good though


I am sure from my phrasing and attitude towards the figure that you can guess I was talking about the first one, the piss poor tank. Its funny about megatron, he has some of the best and worst toys out there, rarely an inbetween.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1643716)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 27th, 2015 @ 3:38pm CST
Yeah, Titanium was so close to being awesome.

I think the G1 toys struck a good balance of metal to plastic, so as not to be too heavy or awkward or top-heavy or floppy. I did LOVE most of the War Within designs in general.

Titaniums were usually really good in one mode, but flawed in the other. Those include Megatron(s), Grimlock, Fallen, Prowl...

Favorites... Scourge, Jetfire, seekers, Prime, Hot Spot (aka Hot Zone) and Ultra Magnus. Rodimus also solid in both modes.

Least Favorites... diaper Soundwave, Cheetor (wish we could have gotten another War Within design instead of this odd-man-out.)

Also was sad to not get the Nemesis spaceship in the small scale line.

BUT I digress.

Getting back on track, really hoping these TFCC bots ship soon. Seeing so much of them is getting me antsy.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644188)
Posted by shajaki on January 28th, 2015 @ 8:47pm CST
production shot of necelle via FB ;)

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Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644191)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 28th, 2015 @ 8:52pm CST
He looks awesome, but I do wish the blue was darker.

Soon, the fourth member of the Welcoming Committee will join his three brethren.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644192)
Posted by jogunwarrior on January 28th, 2015 @ 8:54pm CST
shajaki wrote:production shot of necelle via FB ;)

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I rather like this one. The colors are striking and unlike most, I can't seem to get enough of this mold! What's the deal behind this character, is it something the club made up, and wheres the name come from?
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644200)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 28th, 2015 @ 9:03pm CST
jogunwarrior wrote:What's the deal behind this character, is it something the club made up, and wheres the name come from?
This Nacelle toy is a character whose origins are rooted in three separate sources.

First, his name comes from that of a Seeker who was in the Transformers: Exodus novel, in which he was part of a Seeker group with two others named Bitstream and Hotlink.

Second, his deco is based on a prototype for G1 Thrust that was seen in 1980's Takara catalogs prior to Thrust's release:

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Thirdly, his character and identity come from the first episode of the G1 cartoon, in which four generic Seekers attacked Wheeljack and Bumblebee en route to Iacon:

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One of these Seekers, the golden one, would later be given his own name and identity as Sunstorm years later. And then BotCon 2013 made a set of exclusives based on three of these four Seekers, in which Sunstorm was included and the other two were given the names "Bitstream" and "Hotlink", named after two of the Seekers from Exodus.

With the fourth Seeker way in the background not yet given a toy, and with two of the three Exodus Seekers given G1 counterparts, the Club saw fit to create a figure that would both complete the Exodus-named Seeker trio and complete the four-Seeker "Welcoming Committee" (as Wheeljack called them). But rather than make just another ordinary-looking Seeker, the Club decided to make this one special by modeling its deco after the very pretty proto-Thrust deco, which happened to have a blue Seeker body like that fourth background Seeker.

And, let's face it, the deco of that fourth Seeker as it was wouldn't have nearly been as pretty. Compare (second one from the left):
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But, as for the differences in his appearance as this toy from his brief cartoon appearance, his bio refers to him having undergone some cosmetic changes after the Nemesis left Cybertron.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644219)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 28th, 2015 @ 9:37pm CST
Straight from the source, we have our first in-hand image of TFSS 3.0 Nacelle, courtesy of the official Transformers Collectors' Club Facebook page! Nacelle, who is based on a protoype of Generation One Thrust, will be available later this year as part of the Transformers Subscription Service.

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Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644234)
Posted by steve2275 on January 28th, 2015 @ 10:05pm CST
not too bad
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644274)
Posted by Mkall on January 29th, 2015 @ 12:32am CST
More Seekers = More Awesomeness
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644276)
Posted by Emerje on January 29th, 2015 @ 12:42am CST
Really wish they had kept the dark colors and white face from the original BotCon presentation. Not a big fan of the red face and light colors. With those colors he reminds me too much of Universe Ramjet.

Emerje
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644309)
Posted by Rated X on January 29th, 2015 @ 5:29am CST
Awesome ! She looks good. Im more excited about the club figures than I am about the oversized Devastator.
Re: TFSS 3.0 Carzap and Serpent O.R. inhand pictures (1644320)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 29th, 2015 @ 7:20am CST
Rated X wrote:Awesome ! She looks good. Im more excited about the club figures than I am about the oversized Devastator.
"She"? This is a dude.

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