Sonray wrote:The door handles are different too. The movie car had door handles that you only touched for the doors to open, they was flush with the body and almost flat, this version has a more generic type of looking handle. Mirrors are way different too.
Sherade wrote:I'm eager about the Camaro, Challenger, and new Boss Mustang.
I'm no Chevy guy, but it's better than toyota.
This is really nice looking, I never thought it's look so smooth in white.
Only thing is it looks as though he spoiler lip above the taillights is gone. I liked that thing.
GetterDragun wrote:How is it "better than Toyota"?
I mean, it's not like Toyota hasn't just set the record for the Nurburgring, which is the real test for how good a car is. And I doubt this will beat the Toyota on the Nurburgring.
Sonray wrote:It probably has something to do with the fact that sherade hates jap cars and tuners and only likes beefy american muscle.
Cant blame him but i like all cars...well as long as they are good that is. I dont hate american cars and prefer jap cars or vice versa, i like stuff from all continents.
Sherade wrote:Sonray wrote:It probably has something to do with the fact that sherade hates jap cars and tuners and only likes beefy american muscle.
Cant blame him but i like all cars...well as long as they are good that is. I dont hate american cars and prefer jap cars or vice versa, i like stuff from all continents.
I don't hate them, I hate the companies. In my eyes, no "bad car" exists. And it's not only Muscle Cars, I've called minivans and Big Rigs cool. I mean, muscle is part of it....fine, lots of it.
I just especially dislike Japanese companies,most always try to do something they're not, and when/if it works, blow it out of proportion. I'll admit American (and everyone else) does it as well, but it seems that it gets more than it's worth. European companies stay with what has worked, i.e Ferrari. Has Ferrari ever built trucks to compete? No. Because they found a groove, and look how it worked.
That wasn't anger, but just part of what I think.
I could write a book.
GetterDragun wrote:Sherade wrote:Sonray wrote:It probably has something to do with the fact that sherade hates jap cars and tuners and only likes beefy american muscle.
Cant blame him but i like all cars...well as long as they are good that is. I dont hate american cars and prefer jap cars or vice versa, i like stuff from all continents.
I don't hate them, I hate the companies. In my eyes, no "bad car" exists. And it's not only Muscle Cars, I've called minivans and Big Rigs cool. I mean, muscle is part of it....fine, lots of it.
I just especially dislike Japanese companies,most always try to do something they're not, and when/if it works, blow it out of proportion. I'll admit American (and everyone else) does it as well, but it seems that it gets more than it's worth. European companies stay with what has worked, i.e Ferrari. Has Ferrari ever built trucks to compete? No. Because they found a groove, and look how it worked.
That wasn't anger, but just part of what I think.
I could write a book.
So you're mad that Toyota built Trucks to compete with American car companies?
Are you mad that Toyota hired all the Employees that GM and Ford laid off because of their mismanagement and stranglehold by the UAW?
Are you mad that GM is moving production to Mexico and China? If not, why are you mad that Honda and Toyota are builiding more and more cars in the US using US made parts?
So why are you saying Japanese car companies are trying to be something they're not. Cause they are succesful on all fronts? Cause they built the best family car, the best hybrid car, the best bang for the buck sports car and now they got truck of the year? Maybe American car companies should get off their ass and improve. Look at Ford, their European cars are awesome...Euro Ford Focus ahs an inline 5 cylinder turbo and looks awesome, our Focus, piece of ****.
Face it, if it wasn't for Japanese car manufacturers, there would almost be no more car manufacturing in the US.
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GetterDragun wrote:Then don't post in car threads. If you are going to say "I hate Japanese cars, but will offer no reason why, so leave me alone." What do you expect?
I personally feel you are misinformed in whose actually profiting and which company benefits the American worker and am simply trying to give you the current picture of the Automotive Industry and not some 1978 version you are clinging on too. I'm not attacking you, just trying to educate.
Sherade wrote:GetterDragun wrote:Then don't post in car threads. If you are going to say "I hate Japanese cars, but will offer no reason why, so leave me alone." What do you expect?
I personally feel you are misinformed in whose actually profiting and which company benefits the American worker and am simply trying to give you the current picture of the Automotive Industry and not some 1978 version you are clinging on too. I'm not attacking you, just trying to educate.
And I am very well aware of the "situation."
But that has no effect on what I beleive. I do not dislike the cars, for the lastr time, but the companies. And it isn't just Japanese, it's europe too. I just have more of a distaste for Japanese. There is a reason, and here it is. But before I get there, I want to point something out. I was looking around Mazda's line up and it seems as the CX-7 is taking vibes from Euro-Ford.
Yes, I'm aware Ford owns Mazda. I think if Ford will look at the CX-7, and think about it, they may have something with the styling of euro stateside (under their banner).
Anyhoo, back to the situation at hand.
Here is my reason. After you read it, say whatever you will, do whatever you want, but I'm not changing it. You may call it absurd, but I've learned that I don't have take on whatever I hear. I will imply accept it and move on.
You know what? Look back, at when Toyota, nissan, and god nows who else first came here. They made good cars, they did things wonderfully, and I can say I enjoy the older cars. They are great, look fine next to our own US vehicles, didn't try to go over the top. Enjoyment of cars was important. Sure, competition was everywhere, but was much underscored by the heart of the industry worldwide.
Now look. Everyone is fighting over "gas mileage". These foreign companies have turned around the way they were, and their cars, creating all this crap over fuel economy. Yes, it was urged by our findings in field of science, and US companies did the same, I am sure of that, but these others kept going. The market has become a war over who bulds the most "enviornmental" car, but that's not all of the argument.
I'm not going solely on the "now" perspective.
I am disgusted by seeing battles between our counries auto-makers with handling, performance, and in the case of trucks, stuff like traction, and load capacity. They've pushed so far into our market we feel we must fight them back. We even went into their territory to showthem up. I do not want to see less cars, no. But no one does what they used to. the industry itself has become about technicalities. No one makes a car becasue it's a good idea, because it's enjoyable. It's about money now. I know this would've happened anyway, but the competition from impoert companies has grown to speed up the process. I may be clinging to "1978" but at least there was hope and good cars then. But by 1980, this whole process started, and it's getting harder to accept even the American companies. Not that I want to look down on them, but it's like people don't matter anymore.
I don't care about "profit" or who's on top. I want to see a time where we can make cars worth buying, driving, and keeping. Not his mess we have now. And it seems US companies are trying hardest to do so.
Sonray wrote:Well..i wouldnt say that competition is a bad thing, if there was no competition the car world would be a very boring place. And striving forward to make cars run cleaner isnt a bad thing either, as much as i dont care about it and prefer the power of a good old fashioned internal combustion engine it is something that NEEDS to change, along with a lot of other things not just in the car business but everything relating to energy and how we use it.
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