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GetterDragun wrote:Sonray wrote:Well..i wouldnt say that competition is a bad thing, if there was no competition the car world would be a very boring place. And striving forward to make cars run cleaner isnt a bad thing either, as much as i dont care about it and prefer the power of a good old fashioned internal combustion engine it is something that NEEDS to change, along with a lot of other things not just in the car business but everything relating to energy and how we use it.
I agree. But the probem is is that governments stifle this sometimes. I think the government (particulary the US) should enforce CAFE standards for vehicles selling mor ethan X amount. That way every companies Camry equivalent will need to do 35 mpg, but low selling cars...typically performance cars can get away with lower gas mileage. Chevy has a new model coming out called the Volt which can revoultionize transportation as we know it...it can go 40 miles without burning a drop of fuel. Now that sounds short, but it does have a small engine to help out and for most commuters that would be fine. How cool would it be to have a Volt as a daily driver and a ZR-1 Corvette for the weekend? This is what sells cars...and more of them.
Defcon! wrote:I love my cobalt! It's very affordable, great on gas,and pretty good everywhere else. It's a nice economical car. I'm very proud to own something i helped build. Although it is'nt a camaro or vette.Someday.
Defcon! wrote:The sons a bit--es quit making the SS. I liked it too. Mustangs are pretty sweet. I always liked im, they're a mean lookin ride .
Defcon! wrote:The sons a bit--es quit making the SS. I liked it too. Mustangs are pretty sweet. I always liked im, they're a mean lookin ride .
Pontimax 01 wrote:Defcon! wrote:The sons a bit--es quit making the SS. I liked it too. Mustangs are pretty sweet. I always liked im, they're a mean lookin ride .
Cobalt SS will be back as an '08 model. They only dropped it to do away with the supercharged version. It's coming back with the same motor the Solstice GXP, Sky Redline, and Chevy HHR SS has, which is turbocharged rather than supercharged. And it's coming back with 260hp and 260ft lbs of torque. And better mileage over the supercharged motor.
Sonray wrote:Pontimax 01 wrote:Defcon! wrote:The sons a bit--es quit making the SS. I liked it too. Mustangs are pretty sweet. I always liked im, they're a mean lookin ride .
Cobalt SS will be back as an '08 model. They only dropped it to do away with the supercharged version. It's coming back with the same motor the Solstice GXP, Sky Redline, and Chevy HHR SS has, which is turbocharged rather than supercharged. And it's coming back with 260hp and 260ft lbs of torque. And better mileage over the supercharged motor.
Hopefully they will make it look half decent as well...man thats an ugly car.
TheMuffin wrote:I'd just like to throw this out there. I drive an 07 Chevy Cobalt LS. It's the biggest piece of **** I have ever sat in and has forever weened me off of Chevys.
Hello 08' Mitsubishi Lancer!
TheMuffin wrote:I'd just like to throw this out there. I drive an 07 Chevy Cobalt LS. It's the biggest piece of **** I have ever sat in and has forever weened me off of Chevys.
Hello 08' Mitsubishi Lancer!
Sonray wrote:Erm...most "american" cars arent made in america anymore, or use american parts and materials.
Defcon! wrote:Sonray wrote:Erm...most "american" cars arent made in america anymore, or use american parts and materials.
Many American cars are still made in America and use American parts. Each vehicle has a % list on it of how much is American. And there are foreign car companies that have many plants in the United States. Such as toyota.
GetterDragun wrote:Oh, and in terms of getting new cars...no more GT-R for me...most dealerships are marking the car up $30K to $50K over the sticker price putting it between 100k to 120k. I guess that's what happends when you make one of the fastest cars ever...and try to make it affordable.
Gutter Bunny wrote:GetterDragun wrote:Oh, and in terms of getting new cars...no more GT-R for me...most dealerships are marking the car up $30K to $50K over the sticker price putting it between 100k to 120k. I guess that's what happends when you make one of the fastest cars ever...and try to make it affordable.
I'm sure if you really want one, you will be able to find it close to msrp. Afterall, there arent THAT many people out there that think they need a 75k stock 11second car. Then you have people that won't buy simply because its a nissan...long story short, i don't think they will be hard to obtain IF you have the money to spend.
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