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Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:12 am

I still want this in Voyager class...

News Credits: 79 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:14 am

Mechastrike wrote:I still want this in Voyager class...

I'm honestly surprised nobody has made a knockoff for that.

News Credits: 191 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:35 am

There's so many Megatrons, Shockwaves and Seeker deluxes that I want as voyagers (or at least universe cyclonus-tall deluxes for the seekers)...

On the note of a Platinum set people are actually wanting, does anyone have a comparison between Hasbro, Takara and Platinum Ultra Magnus?

News Credits: 4877 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:40 am

Kurona wrote:There's so many Megatrons, Shockwaves and Seeker deluxes that I want as voyagers (or at least universe cyclonus-tall deluxes for the seekers)...

Which deluxe Megatron do you want as a voyager? WFC would be cool but I can't think of others.

News Credits: 191 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:47 am

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:There's so many Megatrons, Shockwaves and Seeker deluxes that I want as voyagers (or at least universe cyclonus-tall deluxes for the seekers)...

Which deluxe Megatron do you want as a voyager? WFC would be cool but I can't think of others.

WFC Megatron is admittedly the main one; if he were voyager he'd be my perfect Megsy.
But uh yeah, there's also the Deluxe one from Classics that was packaged with a deluxe Optimus (for the record I also kinda want that Deluxe Optimus as a voyager; CW and Voyager Classics Prime are fantastic but it'd be nice to have the option of an extremely accurate G1 Prime as a Voyager. Also helicopter arms are hilarious), the Generations IDW Megatron that turns into a Stealth Bomber, and... uh... well, I guess that's it lol. The CW Leader Megatron as a Voyager would also be really nice.
There's so many great toys of these guys but none that are the right size for me :p

News Credits: 4877 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:55 am

Sadly, Hasbro has changed the scales on us. I too wanted a new voyager megatron, seekers and soundwave. But last year we started getting new versions of all of these, as leaders.

News Credits: 191 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:08 am

Admittedly I'm fine with that to an extent - I think I've said this before but the Leader Decepticons rn function as a really, really budget Masterpiece display as they all go well with each other - we've already got Megatron, Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Soundwave, Buzzsaw, Laserbeak, Rumble and Ravage; so assuming Frenzy comes out - and, really, why wouldn't he? - then all 10 1984 Decepticons are represented in a larger scale relative to each other. Hell, Titan Devastator kinda works with them too - now we just need Shockers and the Insecticons for a full Season 1 team. It's kinda cool, plus I ended up picking up a discounted Leader Thundercracker just to display on his own since IDW Thundercracker is my overall favourite Transformers character.

... just a shame that they don't get new Voyagers. Ah well, at least TFP Shockwave works for him I guess.

News Credits: 19 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:13 am

Kurona wrote:The CW Leader Megatron as a Voyager would also be really nice.

The size is the only thing that's put me off that figure. I'd love it but it's too expensive and far too large for my set. Otherwise it's the perfect G1 Megatron. If I can find a scaled down to Voyager sized (high quality knock off) that would be the best...

But then Powermaster Prime's gonna be that big anyways so I guess Megatron should be that size to match him.... so.... hm the cost is still an issue.

News Credits: 191 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:20 am

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Kurona wrote:The CW Leader Megatron as a Voyager would also be really nice.

The size is the only thing that's put me off that figure. I'd love it but it's too expensive and far too large for my set. Otherwise it's the perfect G1 Megatron. If I can find a scaled down to Voyager sized (high quality knock off) that would be the best...

But then Powermaster Prime's gonna be that big anyways so I guess Megatron should be that size to match him.... so.... hm the cost is still an issue.

Not exactly - Powermaster Prime always seemed to be much bigger than your standard Autobot; the Powermaster form was almost always portrayed as a sort of super mode. Said super mode is what the upcoming toy is portraying, hence I find leader perfect for him.
On that note I've also found Leader class perfect scaling for Jetfire and Magnus too. Blaster just ends up being the odd one out.

News Credits: 4877 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:26 am

Kurona wrote:On that note I've also found Leader class perfect scaling for Jetfire and Magnus too. Blaster just ends up being the odd one out.

I agree but I dont think they are meant to scale with eachother. FOC Blaster is meant to scale with magnus and Jetfire. The new Blast is a new scale wo go agiainst Leader Soundwave and the Leader Sekers. They are using the same size class to make 2 different scales. And thats that same thing they are doing with the Legends size class. That 2 has different scales, with seekers and minibots that arent supposed to scale with eachother.

News Credits: 191 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:32 am

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:On that note I've also found Leader class perfect scaling for Jetfire and Magnus too. Blaster just ends up being the odd one out.

I agree but I dont think they are meant to scale with eachother. FOC Blaster is meant to scale with magnus and Jetfire. The new Blast is a new scale wo go agiainst Leader Soundwave and the Leader Sekers. They are using the same size class to make 2 different scales. And thats that same thing they are doing with the Legends size class. That 2 has different scales, with seekers and minibots that arent supposed to scale with eachother.

Oh of course; I entirely get why Leader Blaster exists - might as well retool Soundwave into Blaster as an easy job, especially since you can make a wide-line gimmick of cassette thingies not exclusive to one faction (and also of course make more of said cassette thingies). It's just that it ends up not being useful... unless you want Blaster facing off alone against Megatron, Soundwave, a Seeker Squadron, an army of Cassettes and Devastator. Sounds like a day he probably should've just slept in.
Come to think of it he could maybe make a decent MP Blaster stand-in if you don't wanna pour out loads of money to third parties, sort of like how people have ended up using Leader Megatron as a MP stand-in since the original MP Megatron... isn't very popular.

News Credits: 4877 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:38 am

Kurona wrote:unless you want Blaster facing off alone against Megatron, Soundwave, a Seeker Squadron, an army of Cassettes and Devastator. Sounds like a day he probably should've just slept in.
Come to think of it he could maybe make a decent MP Blaster stand-in if you don't wanna pour out loads of money to third parties, sort of like how people have ended up using Leader Megatron as a MP stand-in since the original MP Megatron... isn't very popular.

I think those are the only 2 ways of seeing his existence, as fans. And for kids, he serves as a base and it thus makes sense that he is big.

Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:23 pm

This is a must get set for me as both are figures I've always wanted but never taken the energy, or money, to get.

Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:48 pm

I'll pass thank you Hasbro :HASBRO:

News Credits: 1 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:52 pm

I'm not a huge fan of Leader class, Jetfire being the sole exception. Magnus suffers with a vehicle mode that's out of scale with everything else, and that really bugs me.

News Credits: 3 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:29 pm

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote: don't see many calling out for that redeco

Well I meant sorta light blue anyways.

Maybe white with light blue streaks to look like the shiny comic shading but also like the cel-shading they used in Transformers Devasatation game.

I do actually like the comic colors for Grimlock and some other characters the best also. However I prefer the cartoon colors for Galvatron.

News Credits: 1646 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:40 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'm not a huge fan of Leader class, Jetfire being the sole exception. Magnus suffers with a vehicle mode that's out of scale with everything else, and that really bugs me.

His alt mode scales pretty well with the legends class. He can haul 4 of them in trailer mode comfortably :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 191 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:44 pm

I mean... maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I can get past a less-than-brilliant vehicle mode as long as the Robot Mode works. I know transformation is the whole thing, but to me something in a different mode being sacrificed for a superior robot mode (or most important mode; like a targetmaster's gun mode or a combiner limb's combined mode) is fine to me.
That said I rarely keep things on the shelf and am constantly transforming my figures :p

News Credits: 4877 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:53 pm

Joshimus-Prime1993 wrote:I'll pass thank you Hasbro

Welcome to the boards Joshimus-Prime! Hopefully something will come up that will interest you more

News Credits: 1 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:28 pm

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'm not a huge fan of Leader class, Jetfire being the sole exception. Magnus suffers with a vehicle mode that's out of scale with everything else, and that really bugs me.

His alt mode scales pretty well with the legends class. He can haul 4 of them in trailer mode comfortably

And that right there is exactly my problem when the average TF car is deluxe. I guess I could have worded my statement better since Legends size cars are another thing I have a problem with.

I know, I know. Scale in TFs and G1 in particular is a losing argument. It still bugs me when a large truck is so tiny, though. In bot mode he's a good size (unlike the Seekers, Megatron, Soundwave, and Blaster), it's just irnoic that they couldn't get the vehicle mode the right size.

News Credits: 11 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:46 pm

Galvatron seems OK - I may get the set on sale if only to finally try and see if they have made one with left and right feet and not two left or two right feet.

Seems a lot like the Henkei one only without the Chrome.

I wonder why they have not thought to make one in a lighter grey we've had clear and off white but not a light grey yet.

I don't hate the mould as such but I prefer to use the Classics Deluxe Tank Megatron mould or The War For Cybertron Deluxe (there is another example of something that would have made a great Voyager though).

News Credits: 7 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:30 pm

SillySpringer wrote:I like Beast Wars, but come on guys, let's just be happy that at least Takara is celebrating it.

Yay, it's so beautiful that something that meant so much to me get acknowledged on the other side of the planet!

SillySpringer wrote:Also, it's the 30th year anniversary of the 1986 movie, so of course Hasbro is going to focus on that.

Why should that be such a given? What makes the movie so much more important than anything else other than it being G1? Do they really need to make five movie sets instead of maybe using one of them for something else people look back on fondly?

I get that I'm asking too much, but for the life of me I can't imagine why it's to much.

News Credits: 1 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:01 pm

Zeedust wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I like Beast Wars, but come on guys, let's just be happy that at least Takara is celebrating it.

Yay, it's so beautiful that something that meant so much to me get acknowledged on the other side of the planet!

SillySpringer wrote:Also, it's the 30th year anniversary of the 1986 movie, so of course Hasbro is going to focus on that.

Why should that be such a given? What makes the movie so much more important than anything else other than it being G1? Do they really need to make five movie sets instead of maybe using one of them for something else people look back on fondly?

I get that I'm asking too much, but for the life of me I can't imagine why it's to much.

TBH ... I agree with you.

I mean, I am 100% a TFTM guy. It's what sustained my fandom for years (that and Return of Optimus Prime). But we've gotten Arcee, Ultra Magnus, Galvatron, Arcee, Cyclonus and Springer all in short order with Scourge and Blurr coming up. Like ... why not a single BW homage? Heck, even reissuing TM2 Megs with TM2 Primal would be cool.

Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:02 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'm not a huge fan of Leader class, Jetfire being the sole exception. Magnus suffers with a vehicle mode that's out of scale with everything else, and that really bugs me.

Sure, but the robot mode is soooooo perfect, it makes up for the tiny. Vehicle mode.

News Credits: 174 · Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:06 pm

Zeedust wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Also, it's the 30th year anniversary of the 1986 movie, so of course Hasbro is going to focus on that.

Why should that be such a given? What makes the movie so much more important than anything else other than it being G1? Do they really need to make five movie sets instead of maybe using one of them for something else people look back on fondly?

I get that I'm asking too much, but for the life of me I can't imagine why it's too much.

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