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News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:43 pm

Bonus thought -

What if the Platinum sets were actually part of the licensing deal for whichever store carried them as "must order" products in order to get other items? After all - they're all molds that Hasbro have often used to death already, so the profit margin on Hasbro's part must be huge, since the tooling itself was paid for a long time ago.

I say this because I know that other companies like Gamesworkshop or even magazine suppliers have 'must order' and 'minimum quantity' stipulations.

by **1984forever** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:49 pm

Deadput wrote:
1984forever wrote:So much fail in this set!

Prime is levitating in the box to give the impression that he is the same size as Megatron, who is smushed down in the box and standing spread legged. All to fool kids into thinking that these two are evenly matched.
A Prime closer to his G1 self and a grey tank Megatron both in G1size would have been perfect

Dude what the heck does that even mean?
It's box art man it's not supposed to be accurate it's supposed to look cool like you know every other box art every other toy in the world does I mean look at this bionicle for example does he look like you can actually have him surf on lava or is it something to look cool?
And what the heck is G1 size So now G1 is also defined on what size they are you serious?

This Megatron is closer to the original gun Megatron then a tank is but your saying that in order to be as close to the G1 gun Megatron as we can we should use the tank Megatron instead of another gun Megatron genius I say!

obviously we can't get a decent gun Megatron because the cops are mistaking everything for a firearm. A few years ago cops in Times Square mistook a yellow metro card for a gun and fired a fusillade of bullets toward the man. They missed him completely, but managed to buck down an old granny in a walker. So let's just give the fruity colored Megatrons a rest and move on with him as a Tank.

G1 size means the size they stood as the original G1 toys.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:00 pm

Amelie wrote:Bonus thought -

What if the Platinum sets were actually part of the licensing deal for whichever store carried them as "must order" products in order to get other items? After all - they're all molds that Hasbro have often used to death already, so the profit margin on Hasbro's part must be huge, since the tooling itself was paid for a long time ago.

I say this because I know that other companies like Gamesworkshop or even magazine suppliers have 'must order' and 'minimum quantity' stipulations.

I'd wager more towards "Minimum Quantity". It goes a long way to explaining the gluts in the past, especially with Walmart and the Universe 2003 line.

News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:01 pm

G1 size? So you want Optimus Prime to be a deluxe and Devastator to be as tall as a large Voyager?

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:05 pm

Amelie wrote:G1 size? So you want Optimus Prime to be a deluxe and Devastator to be as tall as a large Voyager?

"G1 size" mean nothing because the size of the toys were all over the place back then.

News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:10 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Amelie wrote:G1 size? So you want Optimus Prime to be a deluxe and Devastator to be as tall as a large Voyager?

"G1 size" mean nothing because the size of the toys were all over the place back then.

Exactly my point

Was in reply to 1984Forever

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:12 pm

Amelie wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Amelie wrote:G1 size? So you want Optimus Prime to be a deluxe and Devastator to be as tall as a large Voyager?

"G1 size" mean nothing because the size of the toys were all over the place back then.

Exactly my point

Was in reply to 1984Forever

Oh, I know. I was just following the daisy chain.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:27 pm

Just like I did with the Titans Return thread, here is what was shown off at Nuremburg Toy Fair this year. The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded, italicized, and underlined to emphasize):

• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:35 pm

Mindmaster wrote:Just like I did with the Titans Return thread, here is what was shown off at Nuremburg Toy Fair this year. The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded):

• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold

Oh? Might be something worth watching for. :-?

News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:48 pm

Mindmaster wrote:The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded, italicized, and underlined to emphasize):

• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold

*gets my passport* - SOMEONE IS GOING TO FEEL SOME PAIN :BLACKEYE:

So an utterly crud Rodimus thats going to tower over arguably one of the worst classics figures ever?

What are they putting in the water at Hasbro HQ? LSD?

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:03 pm

Carnivius_Prime wrote:boxart models don't match the designs of the toys.

This. If Hb wanted a home run, they'd re-issue iPod G1 Prime with proper smokestacks and G1 Megatron (sure, without the firing mechanism of Encore) and sell it to the 18 year up crowd 'cause $100.00 a set is nooooooooooooo kiddie target but an Adult collectible. Heck, maybe get a Fed exemption or tag you know what I mean? Just like buying cigars.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:09 pm

nah if it were LSD.....they would be coming out with better stuff! not worse!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:29 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:nah if it were LSD.....they would be coming out with better stuff! not worse!

Actually if it was lsd we would of had megatron as a Venus flytrap and optimus prime as a lawnmower (okay I stole the prime idea from an old penny arcade comic but hasbro on acid would do that)

As for the reveals, I'm skeptical about the sweep set as I can't see them using a botcon tooling and the rodimus set...I think I'll pass after hearing about the titanium line

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:27 pm

Fellow Seibertronians: Fellow member Mindmaster discovered information on TFW2005 regarding new potential Platinum sets from the Nuremburg toy fair. Here's what he had to say:

Mindmaster wrote:here is what was shown off at Nuremburg Toy Fair this year. The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded, italicized, and underlined to emphasize):

• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold

What do you think of these new developments? Sound off below on your thoughts on these potential new sets.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:36 pm

Amelie wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded, italicized, and underlined to emphasize):

• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold

*gets my passport* - SOMEONE IS GOING TO FEEL SOME PAIN

So an utterly crud Rodimus thats going to tower over arguably one of the worst classics figures ever?

What are they putting in the water at Hasbro HQ? LSD?

I am so deeply sadenned by this news. Hasbro now knows that the G1 reissues work. Most sold out in less that a year of being on the market. They said they would keep it going. This is just demoralizing. I can get any of these basic molds on e-bay if I wanted to (which I dont, I have all the ones I need, not paying jack **** for a titanium rodimus). Oh man this is just sad.

Come on Hasbro you could have reissued G1 Galvatron in toon accurate colours for the film's anniversary!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With all this garbage I shudder to think of how they would have handled a Beast Wars anniversary.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:07 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Amelie wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:The two sets are sure to be eyebrow-raisers (said parts are bolded, italicized, and underlined to emphasize):

• Rodimus Prime vs. Galvatron set – uses the Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron molds
• Another set with two Sweeps (one apparently using the Botcon Devcon head) and the Universe Cyclonus mold

*gets my passport* - SOMEONE IS GOING TO FEEL SOME PAIN

So an utterly crud Rodimus thats going to tower over arguably one of the worst classics figures ever?

What are they putting in the water at Hasbro HQ? LSD?

I am so deeply sadenned by this news. Hasbro now knows that the G1 reissues work. Most sold out in less that a year of being on the market. They said they would keep it going. This is just demoralizing. I can get any of these basic molds on e-bay if I wanted to (which I dont, I have all the ones I need, not paying jack SHIZZLESNIT for a titanium rodimus). Oh man this is just sad.

Come on Hasbro you could have reissued G1 Galvatron in toon accurate colours for the film's anniversary!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With all this garbage I shudder to think of how they would have handled a Beast Wars anniversary.

I would sooner buy this than G1 re-issues; besides we know how they'd handle the BW Anniversary when presented with the opportunity:

THEY AREN'T

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:13 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:I would sooner buy this than G1 re-issues

So let me get this straight, you would rather have Titanium Rodimus over G1 Hot Rod and Universe Galvatron over a purple G1 Galvatron?

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:14 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:...besides we know how they'd handle the BW Anniversary when presented with the opportunity:

THEY AREN'T

SAVAGE

In all seriousness though, with the way they're "celebrating" the thirtieth anniversary of the original movie (sans the Planet of Junk Clash... I might actually need that), I don't even know if I want Hasbro to even attempt a Beast Wars anniversary...

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:18 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I would sooner buy this than G1 re-issues

So let me get this straight, you would rather have Titanium Rodimus over G1 Hot Rod and Universe Galvatron over a purple G1 Galvatron?

Yup. I can handle finicky transformations, and, for whatever reason, despite handling over a dozen 'titaniums' figures, I never once had a problem with them - so they get the benefit of my doubt.

What I won't tolerate are immobile lumps that lack proportions, articulation, and aesthetically pleasing bot modes.

Sorry if I come off as actually 'anti-G1', but, I really do greatly dislike more than 90% of the G1 figures and wouldn't bother buying any of them, save maybe soundwave and his cassettes, and maybe chopshop and his wavemates; I've seen them, and found myself wanting something else |:|

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:21 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:Sorry if I come off as actually 'anti-G1', but, I really do greatly dislike more than 90% of the G1 figures and wouldn't bother buying any of them, save maybe soundwave and his cassettes, and maybe chopshop and his wavemates; I've seen them, and found myself wanting something else

Chopshop and his wavemates would be very smart purchases since those are some of the few figures that will never ever be reissued.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:21 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:...besides we know how they'd handle the BW Anniversary when presented with the opportunity:

THEY AREN'T

SAVAGE

I don't even know if I want Hasbro to even attempt a Beast Wars anniversary...

And true, and unfortunate, and pathetic, and a slap in the face to fans, and...

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:30 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I would sooner buy this than G1 re-issues

So let me get this straight, you would rather have Titanium Rodimus over G1 Hot Rod and Universe Galvatron over a purple G1 Galvatron?

If both were an option, the same price and where my collection is currently at; I'd choose the newer molds.

If I ever start collection G1, then I may change my mind. I tend to get a warm and fuzzy feeling of nostalgia from the G1 reissues, but they just don't have a home in my collection.

The platinum sets do seem to be all over the place lately.

by **Darkman20xx** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:58 pm

I don't see why Hasbro teases these sets like this. This one is all over the place. If you were going to reference something as awesome as the battle they had from the G1 movie at least throw in the weapons like an G1 looking Optimus rifle and Meg's energy sword. Or possibly the gun he used to kill Optimus. Personally I still don't see why Hasbro hasn't made an official trailer for the classics Op yet. None of that included with 2 figures with color schemes nowhere matching the scene makes me wish they had not wasted the idea. That means that this would be the best we get.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:15 pm

Darkman20xx wrote:I don't see why Hasbro teases these sets like this. This one is all over the place. If you were going to reference something as awesome as the battle they had from the G1 movie at least throw in the weapons like an G1 looking Optimus rifle and Meg's energy sword. Or possibly the gun he used to kill Optimus. Personally I still don't see why Hasbro hasn't made an official trailer for the classics Op yet. None of that included with 2 figures with color schemes nowhere matching the scene makes me wish they had not wasted the idea. That means that this would be the best we get.

They're not in the business of doing that, especially nowadays >:oP

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:32 pm

1984forever wrote:So much fail in this set!

Prime is levitating in the box to give the impression that he is the same size as Megatron, who is smushed down in the box and standing spread legged. All to fool kids into thinking that these two are evenly matched.

A Prime closer to his G1 self and a grey tank Megatron both in G1size would have been perfect

Hasbro would LOVE to sell you these again!

But for $75, not $20. Totally worth it with a premium paint job though right?

Also, they're in the box that way because they're being centered on the trays. If they were doing what you say they are then Optimus would be lower on the tray, but instead he's now up higher than Megatron. Megatron's wings cause him to take the entire height of the box. And really, the difference in size between the two isn't so much that Hasbro would try to correct it this way.

As for the rumors about the next set featuring Titanium Rodimus Prime and Universe Galvatron, don't forget some of the crazy rumors we got for CW Devastator at this time last year. Titanium Rodimus isn't a terrible figure if you can overlook the lack of a neck ball joint and him being a robot donut. He is pretty big to go with that Galvatron, though. At least the Rodimus figure now has a reason to look down.

Emerje