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I would guess it would make more sense to any retailer with a strong online presence like Amazon or even a shared Online retailer exclusive - like sold through diamond or offered to the likes of BBTS & Entertainment Earth etc...

That was why I mentioned a Metro Titan making some sense to me as a Show exclusive - I think people would be a bit bored by the next big Chinese show just giving you another slight variant of Omega Supreme.

Also making Metro Titan makes use of a mould that is otherwise just going to sit there doing nothing. It also seems worth doing to test the interest for a possible Brave Maximus and Gigastrom release in a similar way.

Also If they did get around to doing Omega Supreme unless it was made of Awesome if would be more likely that Say Scorponok would to kill the size category stone dead.

Heck they might be better off never making Omega Supreme unless he has some sort of space ship mode than trying to see a terrible playset with a weird looking robot mode would..

I don't Mind Omega - Heck I'd be rather interested in an Omega Sentinel too - but I have a feeling he'd be the hardest sell of them all.

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The other thing about Platinum sets is they do allow for the current line theme to be circumvented so if they wanted to do a Blue/black Ultra Magnus for example that would be easier as a Platinum release than as a Titan's Returns figure - as would say Leader Class Combiner Wars Acid Storm or Sunstorm figures or even a G2 Tank Megatron release . they'd just not fit at the moment in the Titans Returns line.

I suppose someone could always buy the Black KO Megatron put the Armada head on it and call it Black (Mega) Zarak (like the OTCC toy) and then use the normal Megatron head on the armada green body to make a G2 Megs too.

But a distinct one would be nice too. Though I hear G2 stuff shelf hugs hard.

RAR wrote:I don't Mind Omega - Heck I'd be rather interested in an Omega Sentinel too - but I have a feeling he'd be the hardest sell of them all.

The long held belief has been that Omega would be the same size as Devastator making the smaller size an easier sell. If they should reproduce the motorized tank it would do a better job of attracting kids than most Titans.

Also, he already has a spaceship mode. The guy has a lot going on and should be just as easy of a sell as Devastator was.

Emerje

RAR wrote:I don't Mind Omega - Heck I'd be rather interested in an Omega Sentinel too - but I have a feeling he'd be the hardest sell of them all.

I dont. Metrotitan is a way harder sell since Hasbro didnt eve know who he was the last time they were asked about a redeco (back when Metroplex came out). They are fully aware of Omega sentinel since they already released on in Energon and Takara released a G1 version too. He has a much bigger presence in toys than Metrotitan ever would.

That is Because the ones working on the Brand likely don't know a lot of things about the brand - but that is true of anyone who hasn't been around the block awhile.

I will admit I am completely bemused by the obsession with Character its why RID is such a boring toyline it's the same thing over and over - with out even the courtesy of a redesign like you get with "That years Optimus Prime" usually.

I am suggesting Metro Titan not because of the Character - (he doesn't really matter) it doesn't even have to be him - it could be any "Knight" (well maybe not the pink one).

[Yes I know Metro Titan isn't a Knight as such].

I am suggesting it as 1) it's good sense to get some extra use out of the mould & 2) I'm not the only person who would like the option to have Decepticon base... and if Trypticon is designed to go with Fort max to some degree then Metro Titan can complement Metroplex.

Also If you want to decorate a base mode why wouldn't you want to play with Decepticons that way - the reverse works just as well (thus Trypticon).

I'm not suggesting they make 100,000 of the things - I'm suggesting it's made a chines show exclusive then the overstock is spread around a bit to other retailers globally. It doesn't even need to be to big retailers like Target or Walmart it could be to places like Ace Comics & Big bad Toystore.

I just want the idea to be established so logical repaints can find their market if there is one.

I've got all these old Legion class sitting about and sure they work just fine with the original toys - but the newer ones being bigger means they also work with the slightly larger size toys too quite well.

Here is a Digi bash someone did : http://giga-bash.deviantart.com/art/Tra ... -355873529



Also This one may be a bit to shiny but it gives you the general idea :

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons- ... titan.html

It's not about the character it's about the play pattern.
or it's about the appeal to ASIAN FANS too.

I'm confused. You're suggesting it because of the play pattern, despite:-

1) As a straight redeco, it's the exact same play pattern complement we got a few years back
2) It's not compatible with this line's play pattern
3) We're getting a Decepticon base that's unique and isn't just the same play pattern complement we got a few years back


Metrotitan doesn't add anything new, so from a play pattern perspective then it's still rather niche.

RAR wrote:That is Because the ones working on the Brand likely don't know a lot of things about the brand - but that is true of anyone who hasn't been around the block awhile.

If you're referring to the current brand team headed by John Warden, it was the brand team headed by Aaron Archer who made Metroplex and didn't know who Metrotitan was, and that team was comprised of people who had been with the brand for a LONG time (Archer himself had been with the brand since the Transmetal 2 era of Beast Wars).

Sabrblade wrote:

RAR wrote:That is Because the ones working on the Brand likely don't know a lot of things about the brand - but that is true of anyone who hasn't been around the block awhile.

If you're referring to the current brand team headed by John Warden, it was the brand team headed by Aaron Archer who made Metroplex and didn't know who Metrotitan was, and that team was comprised of people who had been with the brand for a LONG time (Archer himself had been with the brand since the Transmetal 2 era of Beast Wars).

Do we know the reasons for his departure?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RAR wrote:That is Because the ones working on the Brand likely don't know a lot of things about the brand - but that is true of anyone who hasn't been around the block awhile.

If you're referring to the current brand team headed by John Warden, it was the brand team headed by Aaron Archer who made Metroplex and didn't know who Metrotitan was, and that team was comprised of people who had been with the brand for a LONG time (Archer himself had been with the brand since the Transmetal 2 era of Beast Wars).

Do we know the reasons for his departure?

The whole brand team changed over to the current one, so I dunno. We first saw toys from the current team in the Generations Thrilling 30 line with Whirl and Roadbuster, then with AOE being the first full-on line headed by the current team.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RAR wrote:That is Because the ones working on the Brand likely don't know a lot of things about the brand - but that is true of anyone who hasn't been around the block awhile.

If you're referring to the current brand team headed by John Warden, it was the brand team headed by Aaron Archer who made Metroplex and didn't know who Metrotitan was, and that team was comprised of people who had been with the brand for a LONG time (Archer himself had been with the brand since the Transmetal 2 era of Beast Wars).

Do we know the reasons for his departure?

The whole brand team changed over to the current one, so I dunno. We first saw toys from the current team in the Generations Thrilling 30 line with Whirl and Roadbuster, then with AOE being the first full-on line headed by the current team.

I thought there was a change between Prime First Edition toys and the RID version of the Prime line. Was that not the case?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RAR wrote:That is Because the ones working on the Brand likely don't know a lot of things about the brand - but that is true of anyone who hasn't been around the block awhile.

If you're referring to the current brand team headed by John Warden, it was the brand team headed by Aaron Archer who made Metroplex and didn't know who Metrotitan was, and that team was comprised of people who had been with the brand for a LONG time (Archer himself had been with the brand since the Transmetal 2 era of Beast Wars).

Do we know the reasons for his departure?

The whole brand team changed over to the current one, so I dunno. We first saw toys from the current team in the Generations Thrilling 30 line with Whirl and Roadbuster, then with AOE being the first full-on line headed by the current team.

I thought there was a change between Prime First Edition toys and the RID version of the Prime line. Was that not the case?

Archer's team was still around back then. Though, they might have changed their views of complexity for the Prime RID line, as we saw that team switch to simpler designs starting with the DOTM line. It's likely that they carried that mentality from DOTM over to Prime RID. But then again, don't forget that the Prime FE toys were originally meant for the Generations line, hence those toys' Generations-esque level of complexity.

That it was Aaron Archer who didn't know who Metro Titan was - is actually even funnier.

I think what we get toy and marketing wise for "The last Knight" will be some indication if Hasbro has 'got a clue yet' or not.

But the idea of them expecting me to pay $20.00 for a 5" Movie toy is comedy gold in an of itself.

All I'll say about John Warden is - That I look forward to his interviews with some glee as he always says something unintentionally hilarious - much as the constant passive-aggressive barely disguised Anti-Hasbro insults in Japanese Designer interviews is also endlessly amusing.

At least the folks who left seem to have found nice jobs elsewhere like Lego (judging by their Linked-in Pages).

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As for Play Pattern - I was talking about how a item is played with - not the line wide gimmick in a given year. Remember I also suggested Mega Titan would be a Platinum release too because he wouldn't be a Titans Return compatible toy as such - he'd be a more general Generations product still though.

I was suggesting the way to play with him would be with Legion & Legends class toys (much as you would Metroplex)- and Titans Returns Deluxes wouldn't really factor into that at all.

The idea specifically is the child (or collector) would potentially use Metroplex as a base crewed by Autobot characters in defence of a Decepticon attack.

Metro Titan would be the reverse crewed by Decepticons and defending again the Autobots - not to mention it would be nice to have something else to put in a Decepticon city layout besides Trypticon & Soundwave.

That no one seems to know who he is in the west isn't even the issue that isn't the point - the point is how he's supposed to be played with - what he represents, and also as I mentioned previously as a pretty ideal Chinese Exclusive. Establishing the merit or worth of such an idea is the idea - and then once done subsequent periods would be opened up in 2018-2019 etc for the likes of chinese show/GDO specific toys like Gigastorm or Grand or Brave Maximus too.

I am suggesting the Chinese means as a way to see these "Obvious Repaints" made as the market is a strong focus for Hasbro going forwards and they have a large Transformers event on a semi-regular basis.

Just as SDCC Fort Max has leaked out all over the place like Hasbro Toyshop Hasbro's EBay page and A1 comics - these would be the same - enough made for the show to justify their creation in the 1st place plus a few more to offer to US Online or other international Retailers afterwards.

I'm not suggesting you should be tripping over a Metro Titan at your local Walmart or Target (unless they want them) - I'm suggesting that there is obvious repaints (or slight remoulds) for every muted "base-bot" that has been made or has been suggested to be made.

Not to mention if you don't like the idea of Metro Titan the same suggestion can apply to a G2 Yellow CW/UW Devastator too.

Also 2017 is close enough to being 20 year after Beast Wars 2nd came out that a Gigastorm repaint would make some sense too hot on the heels of Trypticon's release.

But personally I prefer the idea of staggering them so the repaint isn't that years toy - but one from a previous year in a new colour.

Sorry if this has been asked or discussed, but what do folks think about the Platinum sets for the coneheads and insecticons? I never bothered with them based on the high asking price. But now both are relatively available on ebay for under MSRP (more so the insecticons), so I'm wondering if they're worth picking up?

nycPrime wrote:Sorry if this has been asked or discussed, but what do folks think about the Platinum sets for the coneheads and insecticons? I never bothered with them based on the high asking price. But now both are relatively available on ebay for under MSRP (more so the insecticons), so I'm wondering if they're worth picking up?

If you don't own those G1 toys yet then this is the best way to get them. The insecticon feel like little jewels.
Ans the coneheads is a great deal. Nice diecast, shiney stickers and a bunch of accesories. The coneheads are probably the best platinum set of the past 2 years.

william-james88 wrote:If you don't own those G1 toys yet then this is the best way to get them. The insecticon feel like little jewels.
Ans the conegeads is a great deal. Nice diecast, whiney stickers and a bunch of accesories. The conegeads are probably the best platinum set of the past 2 years.

WTF?

Hey, am I the only one that has never seen a Platinum G1 reissue in stores? Even when people claimed the Insecticons were collecting dust at Kmart I never saw them once. Anyone else?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:If you don't own those G1 toys yet then this is the best way to get them. The insecticon feel like little jewels.
Ans the conegeads is a great deal. Nice diecast, whiney stickers and a bunch of accesories. The conegeads are probably the best platinum set of the past 2 years.

WTF?

Hey, am I the only one that has never seen a Platinum G1 reissue in stores? Even when people claimed the Insecticons were collecting dust at Kmart I never saw them once. Anyone else?

Emerje

I found the insecticons once in a remote kmart in upstate NY on the way to Montreal last year. I had just started collecting and didn't know much about it. I picked it up off the shelf, saw the price, and put it back. That might be the only time I've found a G1 reissue.

nycPrime wrote:I found the insecticons once in a remote kmart in upstate NY on the way to Montreal last year. I had just started collecting and didn't know much about it. I picked it up off the shelf, saw the price, and put it back. That might be the only time I've found a G1 reissue.

If ever you come back to montreal, hit me up with a PM, we could go shoping for some toys. And I will show you the wonder of canadian rainchecks

And Emerge, cool your jets its just a very odd autocorrect. Writing from my phone a lot these days.

Here's a question for anyone who owns the Platinum Edition Insecticons: Is the plastic as cheap as Felzbug made it out to be? I don't care that much about the bad stickers becuase they don't hinder the figures, but I am concerned about the plastic quality. I want to know if it's a good purchase.

william-james88 wrote:

nycPrime wrote:I found the insecticons once in a remote kmart in upstate NY on the way to Montreal last year. I had just started collecting and didn't know much about it. I picked it up off the shelf, saw the price, and put it back. That might be the only time I've found a G1 reissue.

If ever you come back to montreal, hit me up with a PM, we could go shoping for some toys. And I will show you the wonder of canadian rainchecks

And Emerge, cool your jets its just a very odd autocorrect. Writing from my phone a lot these days.

Will do WJ. It's been a popular destination recently among my friends for a bachelor party. So last year I was able to convince my friends to make a quick stop at a TRU somewhere just outside the city (Laval or something). I was stunned by the huge selection, including figures that were very hard to find at the time in the US. Nothing in NYC came close to that.

nycPrime wrote:Will do WJ. It's been a popular destination recently among my friends for a bachelor party. So last year I was able to convince my friends to make a quick stop at a TRU somewhere just outside the city (Laval or something). I was stunned by the huge selection, including figures that were very hard to find at the time in the US. Nothing in NYC came close to that.

Yeah, I get that a lot when I show people what my TRU looks like in pictures. The only one that compared was the Time Square TRU at peak season. And yeah, Laval makes sense, thats where I used to go. But now I shop predominantly in montreal.

SillySpringer wrote:Here's a question for anyone who owns the Platinum Edition Insecticons: Is the plastic as cheap as Felzbug made it out to be? I don't care that much about the bad stickers becuase they don't hinder the figures, but I am concerned about the plastic quality. I want to know if it's a good purchase.

Its a great purchase. I own both originals and the reissues and for the life of me I cant tell if the plastic is any different. It looks as good. I dont know how else i can say this, but the G1 inseticons are some of the best G1 toys and this set at the right price is the perfect way to own them (you also get exclusive energon cubes that can fit inside their cockpits).

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Here's a question for anyone who owns the Platinum Edition Insecticons: Is the plastic as cheap as Felzbug made it out to be? I don't care that much about the bad stickers becuase they don't hinder the figures, but I am concerned about the plastic quality. I want to know if it's a good purchase.

Its a great purchase. I own both originals and the reissues and for the life of me I cant tell if the plastic is any different. It looks as good. I dont know how else i can say this, but the G1 inseticons are some of the best G1 toys and this set at the right price is the perfect way to own them (you also get exclusive energon cubes that can fit inside their cockpits).

Awesome! I love how these guys look, and always have. Kickback was always my favorite, even though his voice was creepy.

Also, are the stickers as crappy as people say they are?

SillySpringer wrote:Also, are the stickers as crappy as people say they are?

I wouldnt know, I chose not to aply them since the toys looked so good without them already.

The only thing I can say is that the stickers on the Platinum Coneheads were great!

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Also, are the stickers as crappy as people say they are?

I wouldnt know, I chose not to aply them since the toys looked so good without them already.

The only thing I can say is that the stickers on the Platinum Coneheads were great!

I always loved how the g1 Insecticons looked. The Seekers? Not so much. I'd probably pass on those. The Insecticons are just such a holy grail though. So are G1 Optimus and Soundwave to me. I really want those guys. Especially Optimus.

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Also, are the stickers as crappy as people say they are?

I wouldnt know, I chose not to aply them since the toys looked so good without them already.

The only thing I can say is that the stickers on the Platinum Coneheads were great!

I always loved how the g1 Insecticons looked. The Seekers? Not so much. I'd probably pass on those. The Insecticons are just such a holy grail though. So are G1 Optimus and Soundwave to me. I really want those guys. Especially Optimus.

Ironhidensh has a G1 Soundwave reissue in box available to sell. Send him a PM if interested.

Anwyways, if you can afford those insecticons, get them, you wont regret it.

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Also, are the stickers as crappy as people say they are?

I wouldnt know, I chose not to aply them since the toys looked so good without them already.

The only thing I can say is that the stickers on the Platinum Coneheads were great!

I always loved how the g1 Insecticons looked. The Seekers? Not so much. I'd probably pass on those. The Insecticons are just such a holy grail though. So are G1 Optimus and Soundwave to me. I really want those guys. Especially Optimus.

Ironhidensh has a G1 Soundwave reissue in box available to sell. Send him a PM if interested.

Anwyways, if you can afford those insecticons, get them, you wont regret it.

I'll have to wait a little bit at least, but I'll try as soon as possible. Kickback is who I want most. Bombshell and Shrapnel I am planning to let my younger brothers have so they can experience some g1 goodness with me.