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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Gunmetal » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:00 pm

william-james88 wrote:A few things I wanted to mention.

To those asking about a wide release, this set wil always be an exclusive in one way or another. I have no doubt it will come to the states, but it will be an exclusive at tru or walmart or another specific retailer. It wil never truly be a wide release like the G2 Combier Wars figures are.


Also, here are some more images of Prime:

That's some impressive paintwork he's got going on (not to mention the massive tampograph). Really goes against those complaining that it's "lazy".

Yeah, yeah, the clear parts are unpainted, but that's obviously to mirror the clear red parts on Megatron. At least they're trying new deco ideas.

Want to know what lazy is? Slapping red paint on those same parts for the fifth time.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:14 pm

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Randomus wrote:Want to know what lazy is? Slapping red paint on those same parts for the fifth time.


This. Oh, so this.

Also, it's been the 10000000000000th time that mold is released. How about something new for a change? Complainers should just buy the one they like best off Ebay.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Gunmetal » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:37 pm

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Randomus wrote:Want to know what lazy is? Slapping red paint on those same parts for the fifth time.


This. Oh, so this.

Also, it's been the 10000000000000th time that mold is released. How about something new for a change? Complainers should just buy the one they like best off Ebay.

Don't get me wrong. I love this mold--it's what got me back into collecting in the first place. I happily have it in red, white, and black. Also, if I could afford them, I'd have it in orange and purple too.

But that's the thing, I still want variety. If you want me to get another red & blue one, you gotta at least move those colors around! ;)^
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Nemesis Destron » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:36 pm

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So with these recently announced repaints and mold degradation being what it is when does a mold reach a limit in usage? Is it at all possible? :VEHI:
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby william-james88 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:48 pm

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Nemesis Destron wrote:So with these recently announced repaints and mold degradation being what it is when does a mold reach a limit in usage? Is it at all possible? :VEHI:


Yes, the G1 seekers reached that limit. Hence why they had to redo that mold (they even took the time to write different molded copyright info, hence you can see which uses the new mold).
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby bvzxa » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:12 pm

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The new colors for Classics Prime looks like they took the AoE 2-Pack Classics Prime and Crossed him with Cloud Convoy. By far Henkei Convoy is the absolute best as far as color make up and screen accuracy, second is Cloud Convoy, and third is 2006 Classics Prime.

For me it's the blue-tinted windows that give him a more solid look. I hated the clear windows on the AoE two pack. I see this Prime also has those clear windows as well...bummer. I still want a CLoud or Henkei Oprimus however I'm happy with 2006 Classics Prime for now.

That Megatron is ugly man. For that mold it's United, then Henkei and you can keep the rest.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Emerje » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:05 pm

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Randomus wrote:Yeah, yeah, the clear parts are unpainted, but that's obviously to mirror the clear red parts on Megatron. At least they're trying new deco ideas.


Obviously? I don't know what you mean when they obviously painted Megatron's barrel silver. If they had left Megatron's "wings" completely unpainted then, yes, I could see a common theme here, but they didn't. At the very least they should have finished what they started on Prime and done the rest of his stripe and the headlights if they're going to paint details on Megatron's clear parts. I don't mind the clear sides per se, but I do think there's something wrong with not giving both figures equal treatment.

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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby shajaki » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:29 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Randomus wrote:Yeah, yeah, the clear parts are unpainted, but that's obviously to mirror the clear red parts on Megatron. At least they're trying new deco ideas.
Obviously? I don't know what you mean when they obviously painted Megatron's barrel silver. If they had left Megatron's "wings" completely unpainted then, yes, I could see a common theme here, but they didn't. At the very least they should have finished what they started on Prime and done the rest of his stripe and the headlights if they're going to paint details on Megatron's clear parts. I don't mind the clear sides per se, but I do think there's something wrong with not giving both figures equal treatment.

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I think what Randy meant by common theme is that Megsies wings are totally red inside. While painted on the outside (not much though) he's clear and paintless inside. So yeah, him and Prime complement each other. Megs just does it better.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:20 pm

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william-james88 wrote:A few things I wanted to mention.

To those asking about a wide release, this set wil always be an exclusive in one way or another. I have no doubt it will come to the states, but it will be an exclusive at tru or walmart or another specific retailer. It wil never truly be a wide release like the G2 Combier Wars figures are.


Also, here are some more images of Prime:

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:BOOM: The doors are translucent? Wtf?! :HEADHURTS:
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby RAR » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:32 pm

If they'd blended to blue into the red with some solid blue paint and picked out he windows in another tint - and also not used half a set of stripes on the side then I'd be fine with it - I'd still think it was weird but I wouldn't say it was Lazy.

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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby gavinfuzzy » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:41 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Looking at these pictures again, I'm surprised that they haven't gone to town on megs as a nerf crossover product (he is a nerf gun isn't he?)


Yes, Megs is based on an N-Strike Maverick. This is one of those obvious things that Hasbro doesn't understand (like a TF vs G.I. Joe line). They've even made a few Transformers Nerf guns.

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At the point of classics megatron's first release, he was often compared to the nerf maverick.

Meagtron's clear red makes it look like a variant of the nerf strongarm. one of TRU's exclusive colours.

The clear blue plastic looks decent on prime in bot mode. Probably trying to "hide" the side panels on the arm. Looks horrid in vehicle mode.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby ausbot » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:44 am

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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Deadput » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:46 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
:BOOM: The doors are translucent? Wtf?! :HEADHURTS:



What's wrong with translucent it ceartinly "Transforms" the figure :P



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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:50 am

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I like the giant Autobot symbol on Prime (even if it does kinda ruin the whole disguise thing, though not the first or most blatant time he's ever done that) but the transparent parts especially those that end up on his forearms look out of place and ugly.

Megatron just looks goofy. As I said before when I owned the original, the gun mode is just silly and robot mode looks better if you take the wings off.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby MemphisR56 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:29 am

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Optimal Megatronus wrote:So is this going to come out in the uk? Because i would love to get my hands on these figures.


First off, welcome to the boards! ;)^

and to answer the question, we're not sure at this point. I don't think any of the recent platinum sets have shown up at UK retail yet, peeps feel free to correct me on this, I think the most recent one we actually got was Perceptor and Blaster.


Everyone's commented on it now so I might as well say my piece. I like the megatron decco. I dislike the prime decco. For megatron it looks great, understates the kibble in bot mode, and the actual outline and shape is all still there for the gun to at least have all the important details there. I've never owned that mold in particular so I'm excited to pick it up in a colour scheme that isn't lime green, purple and cream. Prime feels unfinished though. Yeah the kibble looks minimized in bot-mode, but, it's mostly unchanged from the original classics prime decco and they left out the 2 most important paint apps for the truck mode to actually look like a truck. In addition, that silver paint that they used, while pretty nice looking, looks like it's already starting to rub and chip on those photos from weibo. I don't hold faith that this will be the best of paint jobs.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:45 am

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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:30 am

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MemphisR56 wrote:
Optimal Megatronus wrote:So is this going to come out in the uk? Because i would love to get my hands on these figures.


First off, welcome to the boards! ;)^

and to answer the question, we're not sure at this point. I don't think any of the recent platinum sets have shown up at UK retail yet, peeps feel free to correct me on this, I think the most recent one we actually got was Perceptor and Blaster.


Everyone's commented on it now so I might as well say my piece. I like the megatron decco. I dislike the prime decco. For megatron it looks great, understates the kibble in bot mode, and the actual outline and shape is all still there for the gun to at least have all the important details there. I've never owned that mold in particular so I'm excited to pick it up in a colour scheme that isn't lime green, purple and cream. Prime feels unfinished though. Yeah the kibble looks minimized in bot-mode, but, it's mostly unchanged from the original classics prime decco and they left out the 2 most important paint apps for the truck mode to actually look like a truck. In addition, that silver paint that they used, while pretty nice looking, looks like it's already starting to rub and chip on those photos from weibo. I don't hold faith that this will be the best of paint jobs.



the Platinum Edition sets have shown up in the UK! even in Scotland, at A1 Toys

http://a1toys.com/index.php/trypticon-p ... l?___SID=U

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http://tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/739 ... eased-list
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:05 am

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the Platinum Edition sets have shown up in the UK! even in Scotland, at A1 Toys

http://a1toys.com/index.php/trypticon-p ... l?___SID=U

& for releases

http://tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/739 ... eased-list


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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:54 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
:BOOM: The doors are translucent? Wtf?! :HEADHURTS:



What's wrong with translucent it ceartinly "Transforms" the figure :P
Translucent plastic has an unfortunate history of being more prone to breakage than opaque plastic. It's thinner and not as sturdy, and when it's sometimes used on joints or on parts that move around a lot, it becomes a gamble as to how long it might last if one isn't careful or aware of translucent plastic's fragility in comparison to the stronger opaque plastics.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:43 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
:BOOM: The doors are translucent? Wtf?! :HEADHURTS:



What's wrong with translucent it ceartinly "Transforms" the figure :P
Translucent plastic has an unfortunate history of being more prone to breakage than opaque plastic. It's thinner and not as sturdy, and when it's sometimes used on joints or on parts that move around a lot, it becomes a gamble as to how long it might last if one isn't careful or aware of translucent plastic's fragility in comparison to the stronger opaque plastics.


Yeah but in this case, its not like the translucent parts are new. In both molds, they have the same transluscent parts as they did in the original release but either in a different colour or with way less paint covering them.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Deadput » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:26 pm

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Sabrblade wrote: Translucent plastic has an unfortunate history of being more prone to breakage than opaque plastic. It's thinner and not as sturdy, and when it's sometimes used on joints or on parts that move around a lot, it becomes a gamble as to how long it might last if one isn't careful or aware of translucent plastic's fragility in comparison to the stronger opaque plastics.




Oh I know translucent plastic is fragile and stuff.


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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby RAR » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:51 pm

It would have been interesting to see a Deco not unlike the one on the G2 gift set Optimus (the one packed with Jazz & Thundercracker) applied to the 2006 mould.

I think my idea of using the shattered Glass Autobot logos on the sides would have been a good one too.

The peculiar thing about Optimus is that once you set aside the idea of the doors being clear and the air dam with a logo on it he is mostly the same as the 2006 toy and yet Megatron is at least a bit different to previous versions. It therefore appears to me that the set would make more sense with a more distinct Optimus in it.

So how long before someone shows the front of the box then ?
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Lucky Logician » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:24 pm

If you wanted to do a Red Gun Megatron, why not make him ALL red? Don't bother with any silver, maybe give him a new head, and turn him into Beast Wars Megatron.

The red color and the wings are reminiscent of his red dragon form. Write up some alternate fiction where Beast Machines didn't happen. The Maximals actually brought him back to Cybertron and he got locked up in prison. Eventually he breaks out and chooses a new alt-form for himself as a gun in homage to the original G1 Megatron.
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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:54 pm

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Lucky Logician wrote:If you wanted to do a Red Gun Megatron, why not make him ALL red? Don't bother with any silver, maybe give him a new head, and turn him into Beast Wars Megatron.

The red color and the wings are reminiscent of his red dragon form. Write up some alternate fiction where Beast Machines didn't happen. The Maximals actually brought him back to Cybertron and he got locked up in prison. Eventually he breaks out and chooses a new alt-form for himself as a gun in homage to the original G1 Megatron.


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Re: 2016 Generations Platinum sets

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:42 pm

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In all honesty, Megatron's colors remind me of the mysterious eBay redeco of Sports Label Megatron:

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