Mindmaster wrote:If Bay wants to live, he will have the twins in the movie.
prowl123 wrote:Well, then Johnny'd better get his gun.
If Bay wants to live those two cars had better have the Twins' colors by coincidence.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
Burn wrote:Mindmaster wrote:If Bay wants to live, he will have the twins in the movie.prowl123 wrote:Well, then Johnny'd better get his gun.
If Bay wants to live those two cars had better have the Twins' colors by coincidence.
Both of you, these sorts of posts are not welcome on this site. Bay didn't appreciate the death threats when the first movie came out, and Seibertron.com is not going to be a breeding ground for such threats whether you mean them or not.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Hmm... Its apparent that many here don't understand how filming works. Many times scripts are made, but are made with variations. What might sound good to the ear, or look good on paper doesn't turn out as well as the director/producers hoped on film. Many reasons can account for this. Time, money, relevance to the story etc. The fact that they were present during filming doesn't automatically constitute them being in the final cut. Its perfectly plausible they had intentions of them being in, but were cut out on the editing room floor.
As far as toys goes, the fact that we have toys means nothing. Most of the toys we've received from the movie lines never were in either films. So that point in moot. Also, Nelson is really putting himself out on this one. If he in fact is wrong, his credibility will be shot. So I'm thinking that he's pretty sure what he's talking about. we'll see for sure come July 1rst.
On a side note..
All those that continue to insist that the twins were a "racial stereo type" or any kind of stereo type.. Really, and i mean really think about what your saying. These were not humans. They were green and orange robots. If you truly felt them as any kind of stereo type then i would go as far as saying that you, THE FANS are the ones that are doing the stereo typing Your the ones making that connection. not Micheal Bay. Not Hasbro. You! It almost seems that some are just jumping on the band wagon with this racial/stereo type crap as an excuse to get them out because your pissed that they were some of the ones that had the most screen time and character development. And yes, they did have character development. If they didn't, we would be having this conversation, let alone thread 6 pages deep discussing whether or not they will be appearing in the 3rd movie.
5150 Cruiser wrote: All those that continue to insist that the twins were a "racial stereo type" or any kind of stereo type.. Really, and i mean really think about what your saying. These were not humans. They were green and orange robots. If you truly felt them as any kind of stereo type then i would go as far as saying that you, THE FANS are the ones that are doing the stereo typing Your the ones making that connection. not Micheal Bay. Not Hasbro. You! It almost seems that some are just jumping on the band wagon with this racial/stereo type crap as an excuse to get them out because your pissed that they were some of the ones that had the most screen time and character development. And yes, they did have character development. If they didn't, we would be having this conversation, let alone thread 6 pages deep discussing whether or not they will be appearing in the 3rd movie.
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm probably one of the few who don't actually hate the twins, so it doesn't bother me one way the another. I'm more bothered by the fact that Leo and his bad acting is back.
The toys don't really give any hints at all, because tons of ROTF fig that made it as toys were never seen in the film. Then again, those characters like Breakaway never went beyond the character design concept stage, whereas the twins' alt modes were seen quite a few times on set.
But if I have to make a guess, I'd say the twins likely to be in the film. I can't really say why, but Bay's a particularly mischievous person [read: over-aged fratboy] who likes to pull one over your eyes as a prank, and he openly admits to this in the DVD commentary of the 2007 movie.
Besides, they'd probably just hover around in the background much like Jolt did in ROTF, as many have already proposed.
Spleenzorio wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm probably one of the few who don't actually hate the twins, so it doesn't bother me one way the another. I'm more bothered by the fact that Leo and his bad acting is back.
The toys don't really give any hints at all, because tons of ROTF fig that made it as toys were never seen in the film. Then again, those characters like Breakaway never went beyond the character design concept stage, whereas the twins' alt modes were seen quite a few times on set.
But if I have to make a guess, I'd say the twins likely to be in the film. I can't really say why, but Bay's a particularly mischievous person [read: over-aged fratboy] who likes to pull one over your eyes as a prank, and he openly admits to this in the DVD commentary of the 2007 movie.
Besides, they'd probably just hover around in the background much like Jolt did in ROTF, as many have already proposed.
MINDVVIPE wrote: Dude, who cares, haha. does it really matter that much to you that people don't like the twins? Suck it up. This thread is about them, and therefore the movie.. no surprise we're 6 pages in.
MINDVVIPE wrote:People (well, smarter people) only stereotype when theres grounds for it. If they were like Tuvok on Voyager, no one would know they're supposed to be ghetto inspired characters. Whether or not you agree with people who stereotype the twins, you can't dismiss the fact that there are definitely enough grounds for it, visually (look like a junkyard bot), linguistically (ebonics) , and behaviourly (the way they are rough with each other in that sorta, you my *, no you my *) sorta way.
MINDVVIPE wrote:visually (look like a junkyard bot), linguistically (ebonics) , and behaviourly (the way they are rough with each other in that sorta, you my *, no you my *) sorta way.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote: Dude, who cares, haha. does it really matter that much to you that people don't like the twins? Suck it up. This thread is about them, and therefore the movie.. no surprise we're 6 pages in.
Your not getting it. I don't care if people like them or not. Its there opinion and thats fine. But it gets pretty anoying constantly hearing about no character development in the movies when the twins are pouring it out of there ears. Thats what i meant about this thread being 6 pages deep. Like them or not, they had alot of personality.
MINDVVIPE wrote:People (well, smarter people) only stereotype when theres grounds for it. If they were like Tuvok on Voyager, no one would know they're supposed to be ghetto inspired characters. Whether or not you agree with people who stereotype the twins, you can't dismiss the fact that there are definitely enough grounds for it, visually (look like a junkyard bot), linguistically (ebonics) , and behaviourly (the way they are rough with each other in that sorta, you my *, no you my *) sorta way.
I don't nessasarly disagree that some of their behavior was "getto". But getto behavior still does not warrant any type of racial stereo type. This is where people are making their own conectionsMINDVVIPE wrote:visually (look like a junkyard bot), linguistically (ebonics) , and behaviourly (the way they are rough with each other in that sorta, you my *, no you my *) sorta way.
Not sure where you were going with your comments (especialy the last one ), but for me the behaviors you listed in the twins were more imature "wanna be" tuff guys. As far the way they were rough with each other,.... I'm guessing you never had a brother? Cause thats how i related their behavior. two brothers (cause thats what they are) pushing each other around trying to out "tough' the other. Nothing more. nothing less.
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