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cruizerdave wrote:1. It means these movies are designed for idiots.
cruizerdave wrote:VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.
Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.
I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.
These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.
SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.
That would be very unoriginal and uninspiring.SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Autobot032 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.
I think that would make a LOT of fans angry. It's made them mad enough that the film series has borrowed from past storylines as it already has, but something like that? A straight up ripoff? Oh, I think that'd get people upset.
Critics especially.
Plus with the damage sustained to both, I doubt you could make it work, really. In the scenario you're presenting, the source material had one of those two still alive, barely, but still alive.
Taking two dead and making one whole new life just doesn't seem feasible in this universe. Plus with all the talk of souls, etc, it just won't work. I get where you're coming from, though.
How likely is it that an ordinary human would have survived a close range (not a pointblank range, but still very near) plasma blast fired from a TF-sized cannon wielded by a gunner shooting to kill?SlyTF1 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.
I think that would make a LOT of fans angry. It's made them mad enough that the film series has borrowed from past storylines as it already has, but something like that? A straight up ripoff? Oh, I think that'd get people upset.
Critics especially.
Plus with the damage sustained to both, I doubt you could make it work, really. In the scenario you're presenting, the source material had one of those two still alive, barely, but still alive.
Taking two dead and making one whole new life just doesn't seem feasible in this universe. Plus with all the talk of souls, etc, it just won't work. I get where you're coming from, though.
But, they could work a way where Attinger isn't dead. I mean, the movie didn't show a big gaping hole in his chest, but a bloody wound. What if he survived and is just comatose or something?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:How likely is it that an ordinary human would have survived a close range (not a pointblank range, but still very near) plasma blast fired from a TF-sized cannon wielded by a gunner shooting to kill?SlyTF1 wrote:Autobot032 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.
I think that would make a LOT of fans angry. It's made them mad enough that the film series has borrowed from past storylines as it already has, but something like that? A straight up ripoff? Oh, I think that'd get people upset.
Critics especially.
Plus with the damage sustained to both, I doubt you could make it work, really. In the scenario you're presenting, the source material had one of those two still alive, barely, but still alive.
Taking two dead and making one whole new life just doesn't seem feasible in this universe. Plus with all the talk of souls, etc, it just won't work. I get where you're coming from, though.
But, they could work a way where Attinger isn't dead. I mean, the movie didn't show a big gaping hole in his chest, but a bloody wound. What if he survived and is just comatose or something?
You'd have to work in something like magic or divine powers to explain his not being dead.
Prime didn't fire on the bodies of the Cemetary Wind soldiers. He fired at the ground in front of their feet, knocking them back and away without killing them.SlyTF1 wrote:The same guys who survived getting shot by Optimus earlier in the movie.
It looked like that because it was a CGI blast. They couldn't really kill Kelsey Grammer and so it looks like that because the actor reacting to something that wasn't really there.SlyTF1 wrote:It looked like the blast just hit in front of him, and like from a grenade, the shrapnel is what knocked him back and caused all those bloody spots on his chest. If they wanted to, I bet they could go with that. I'm not saying that's what happened, but the writers could spin it that way in the sequel.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
cruizerdave wrote:VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.
Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.
I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.
These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.
VirusCarnage wrote:cruizerdave wrote:VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.
Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.
I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.
These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.
Lol? So let me get this straight because you don't agree with my opinion it means I have no idea what I'm talking about?
Burn wrote:cruizerdave wrote:1. It means these movies are designed for idiots.
For the record, just because you don't like something doesn't give you the right to come onto these forums and insult people who think differently from you.
A lot of people go to the movies for an escape from reality, to relax, to be entertained, that doesn't make them idiots.
Sabrblade wrote:Prime didn't fire on the bodies of the Cemetary Wind soldiers. He fired at the ground in front of their feet, knocking them back and away without killing them.SlyTF1 wrote:The same guys who survived getting shot by Optimus earlier in the movie.
Speaking of which, the first time I saw the movie, I too thought he was shooting them directly. But upon viewing the movie a second time, I realized that there are actually a lot of places in this movie in which Optimus holds back and restrains himself from harming humans to his fullest extent. His shooting Attinger was really the first and only time in this movie in which he cuts loose and goes for the kill on a human being.
Another case of this is when he first reactivates in Cade's barn. Though he was screaming "I'll kill you!" upon his awakening, two things I didn't catch the first time about his initial brief rampage stood out to me on the second viewing. The first was that he didn't seem to be in his right mind. He acted as though he thought he was still in the midst of the ambush Cemetery Wind and Lockdown launched on him in New Mexico. So he wasn't really saying it to Cade/Tessa/Lucas.
The second was that, after he screamed his initial death threats, he seemed to take stock in his new surroundings and gave a warning to Cade/Tessa/Lucas with "Stay back!" And then he knocks Lucas aside with his cannon with a, while painful, nonlethal force. Had he really been as committed to his cries for murder towards Cade/Tessa/Lucas, I doubt he wouldn't have just murdered them right there on the spot instead of merely threatening them with is cannon without shooting them first.
So in a way, viewing the movie a second time showed me that Prime wasn't quite as murder-crazy (towards humans, at least) as I initially thought.It looked like that because it was a CGI blast. They couldn't really kill Kelsey Grammer and so it looks like that because the actor reacting to something that wasn't really there.SlyTF1 wrote:It looked like the blast just hit in front of him, and like from a grenade, the shrapnel is what knocked him back and caused all those bloody spots on his chest. If they wanted to, I bet they could go with that. I'm not saying that's what happened, but the writers could spin it that way in the sequel.
Sabrblade wrote:You'd have to work in something like magic or divine powers to explain his not being dead.
Sabrblade wrote:That would be very unoriginal and uninspiring.SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.
And like Autobot 032 said, it wouldn't make sense since both were already dead while Silas was still somewhat alive. KSI doesn't have the power to breathe life into lifelessness. They're not God.
I want to say that I am in full agreement in that these kinds of things are completely unnecessary and are sincerely disgusting and don't belong in media designed to market children's toys.cruizerdave wrote:I think that's a fair statement. Any series of films that gains humor from piss, masturbation, dogs humping, porno-robot girl, "bros before hoes," bathroom stall sex misunderstanding, black guy working at da butcher shop to get money to fix his teeth is low brow.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:So, in a way, it's like this movie traded out the grossness of the previous films for an extra dose of hostility and bloodlust. I don't want to completely say that it's a "cleaner" movie, but maybe "neater" would be a better term. It's certainly more "mature" in regards to diminishing the crass grossness, but swapped out that crudeness for being more "dark and serious".
SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.
Rodimus Prime wrote:You can't make me disappear. I am not feet.
Rodimus Prime wrote:You can't make me disappear. I am not feet.
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:I was thinking about having Hot Rod/Rodimus, Ultra Magnus, Kup, and Blurr arrive to Earth to help the Autobots with their problem with the Decepticons as Optimus Prime arrives on Quintessa to reason with his creators.
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