cruizerdave wrote:I think that's a fair statement. Any series of films that gains humor from piss, masturbation, dogs humping, porno-robot girl, "bros before hoes," bathroom stall sex misunderstanding, black guy working at da butcher shop to get money to fix his teeth is low brow.
I want to say that I am in full agreement in that these kinds of things are completely unnecessary and are sincerely disgusting and don't belong in media designed to market children's toys.
But, I also want to respond to your previous post about how people told you that DOTM didn't have this kind of stuff in it when it still did, so you don't want to fall for the same "trap" when people say that this movie doesn't have that stuff either.
Well, first off, let's look at the DOTM thing from a different angle. While that movie still did have the same vulgarity as ROTF had, it at least didn't have the same amount of it. Objectively speaking, there was a considerably smaller amount of such crudeness in DOTM when compared to the massive quantity that ROTF was overloaded with. So while it is false to say that DOTM didn't have the type of crass content that ROTF, it is at least true to say that DOTM had a lot less of it than ROTF had. So we could at least consider that an improvement (not a
huge improvement, but an improvement nonetheless).
And secondly, having said all that, I want to tell you honestly that AOE...
might have some of the same kind of crudeness in it. I use the more vague word "might" instead of a more absolute term like "does" or "doesn't" because, despite my having seen the film
twice, and despite my distaste for vulgarity keeping me from forgetting the crudness in ROTF and DOTM, I honestly cannot recall any scene in AOE that contained this kind of content.
The closest I can think of is one point where the camera zooms in on actress Nicola Peltz's rear end, but it wasn't done for the sake of giving us a butt shot. Rather, it was a quick shot done to have Mark Wahlberg make a disapproving comment about her short shorts. Yes, the main protagonist in this Michael Bay movie written by the same guy who wrote ROTF and DOTM, is an advocate for decency and against sexual fanservice. And this isn't done as a means to appease the viewers who disliked the indecency of the previous films, but as a tie in to his character being an overprotective father who wants his daughter to stay pure all through high school. And every time a character makes a comment about his daughter's looks, he reacts accordingly, further expressing his distaste for people thinking dirty thoughts about his daughter.
The point I'm trying to get to is that when people say that this movie is light on the crudeness, they wholeheartedly are not pulling your leg like what happened to you with DOTM. This movie, this Michael Bay movie of all things, is surprisingly
subdued on the grossness that plagued ROTF. There is virtually no toilet humor, no indecently exposed body parts, no pornographic content, none of that. There is one black woman who some might find a bit stereotypical, but it was a bit that was practically
tame compared to the previous ones, and managed to put not her but
Wahlberg in a negative light (other scenes redeem him, though). There's also another guy who people might call a "white surfer stereotype", but he's not nearly as loathsome as, say, Leo and he's... well, I'll just say that he's a minor role.
The only things that this movie has against it in a moralistic view are those that emphasize not grossness, but darkness. This is the most violent TF movie yet, with some shocking deaths in it that were a bit more intense than they needed to be. And Optimus is darker, more openly willing to commit murders to his foes. In the previous films, he would speak of freedom and peace one moment while brutally murdering his opponents the next. Here, though, his words match his actions with him regularly using the words "kill" and "die" in an aggressive manner. And the other Autobots are ALL jerks and maniacs (but many still find some of them likable).
So, in a way, it's like this movie traded out the grossness of the previous films for an extra dose of hostility and bloodlust. I don't want to completely say that it's a "cleaner" movie, but maybe "neater" would be a better term. It's certainly more "mature" in regards to diminishing the crass grossness, but swapped out that crudeness for being more "dark and serious".