SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Skywarp64 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:RSDADDIMUS2 wrote:I,for one,enjoyed it for what it was,a movie with robots and explosions. As I enjoyed the other 3.If I wanted a well thought out Transformer movie,I'd watch the one from '86.
I don't see how AOE isn't "well thought out." Everything made sense, everything was in its perfect place. The only thing that could have been explained better was where Optimus got his ability to fly. I mean, for me, it's obvious he gained the ability by going "knight mode," but a lot of people still can't see it, and still can't accept it.
The whole knight thing could also have been explained better. As could the fact that almost every human on the planet has Alzheimer's and completely forgot that they already exiled the Autobots once, and their return is the only thing that saved the planet from Decepticon-imposed slavery. As could the sudden appearance of Drift, Hound, and whoever the heck the third one was. As could the Government's being unable to find Optimus for so long despite the Energon detectors that have been installed everywhere since Dark of the Moon. As could Optimus's suddenly knowing exactly how to awaken the Dinobots. As could why humans claim they don't want to rely on aliens anymore yet form a temporary partnership with Lockdown. As could Optimus's ability to just fix himself by scanning a new vehicle mode, as did Bumblebee in the first film. If transformers can do that, they could all be immortal. Why is there any conflict between them if they can all be immortal just by scanning a new vehicle mode any time they get an owie?
Those are some very good points.
I kept wondering where those energon detectors from DOTM went. Especially at a time when they're actively hunting down both Autobots and Decepticon. After five years, it would make sense that they'd have installed detectors all over the country.
It was funny seeing OP and gang being able to travel around town without detection.
Did they still wear their Autobot symbols on their alt modes?
Everything was Harold Attinger's fault. The public were lead to believe that all Transformers are Decepticons, thanks to his smear campaign. Remember the office conversation? "Uh, I thought the Autobots were our allies?" and how the President wanted a selfie with Optimus. As far as the government was concerned, the Autobots are legit and even Attinger said "a few Autobots were granted asylum" when he threw down the deck of cards with Ironhide's face on it.
Even KSI didn't know they were melting down Autobots such as Ratchet. Anyone remember the exchange between Cade and whatever her name was? "That's Ratchet, he's an Autobot!" She thought they were melting down Decepticons.
As far as the public knew, all Transformers were to be reported and if they knew anything of the Autobots, they thought they were in asylum and not being hunted. Cemetary Wind made sure of that, while they were actually hunting them.
Cemetary Wind was Attinger's toy, basically. He used them to help Lockdown chase the Autobots so they could find Optimus. In return, Lockdown would give Attinger/Cemetary Wind the seed, so the humans could then give it to Joshua/KSI to detonate in a rural area to create more Transformium, which would then net Attinger a seven figure payday. (This was mentioned in clear detail at least twice.) That's why Attinger formed a temporary union with Lockdown. Money and a chance at revenge at all Transformers. Nothing more, nothing less, really.
As for the Energon detectors, one does make an appearance during the Ratchet hunt segment. It appears in the middle of the screen and moves out of focus into the upper right hand corner as the scene progresses. It's on screen about 5-7 seconds or so. They're not gone, just not in use as much, it seems. And with KSI's bots running on anything but Energon, the detectors are now completely useless. The whole not being able to detect the Autobots thing? Well, Bumblebee, Crosshairs, Drift and Hound were out in the desert in the middle of nowhere for
some reason. No detectors out there. I think the attacks that took place prior to AOE happened fairly recently before the film had started. Prime's wounds looked pretty fresh to me, plus they didn't know what had happened to Leadfoot until Cade hacked the camerabot. Optimus skipping out on detection, I don't know. Perhaps he was so damaged he was in a low power mode and couldn't be detected.
If that brings up the question of why didn't Optimus use the Matrix on himself, it's only a source of energy, not repair, as the Allspark had been.
As for the Autobot symbol on vehicle mode? I don't think any of them except Hound had it emblazoned upon their vehicle modes. I don't recall it appearing on Drift at all, I didn't see it on Bumblebee and Crosshairs? We only saw him once or twice very briefly and I couldn't make heads or tails of any symbols on him at all. Optimus only made it appear once he transcanned the new truck mode.
Partly a badge of pride/"Come and get me" moment for Prime, really.
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