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Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Flashwave » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:51 am

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That Bot wrote:The fact that Slingshot is only being released to small market stores should tell you something about how much they think they screwed up. They're releasing an extra limb for people that really want it, and giving the drug stores something to call their own. This is not an apology for Alpha Bravo or Offroad.

No, you're right it's not an apology, since no one said sorry for anything and no one should. It's capitalism. It's meeting a demand and making a profit.

I never said it was an apology. What I meant is it was damage control. Somebody from hasbro dropped an orange and white turd on the sidewalk so they pulled out the corporate pooper scooper.

If it was damage control they would recall all Alpha Bravos. AB is not damaging them in any way. But they're releasing a bonus figure to smaller stores to make a little extra money.

When I said damage control, I didnt mean the sky was falling. I simply meant the original exclusion of sli gshot and wildrider got enough negative feedback to trigger a response in the form of easy repaints.


Possible, but toys tke time. Even repaints, Hasbro can't just whip those out in a matter of weeks. That stuff has to be scheduled into the moulding machinery, painting, pacaging, and then scheduled to go out in a shipping container. If a machine is not in use, its costing Hasbro's factory money by not making something that they could sell, ans=d there is no way that between the time AB showed up in hand and the projected MAY arrival a month away that Hasbro could've gone "Huh. The fandom didn't like our faux Slingshot. We should make a new Slingshot," make him, package him, and get him on a boat to go overseas and into Distribution. So, my theory, and one that was floated around long before toys were on pegs, was that Slingshot and Wildrider were always coming down the line somehow, and that Hasbro deliberately held them back because if we KNEW of Slingshot, and had a timely go at him no one would buy AB. Whereas by waiting, those who were impatient (Is that the right word?) to fill out ANY Superion would buy AB and earn the extra money for the AB/Blades/Vortex(?) mold first. And THEN they could sucker us into buying MORE Airelbots later.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Blastback » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:55 am

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Your not very familiar with us Transformers fans are you? :P
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Rated X » Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:33 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And how exactly would you know how much negative feedback he got, compared to all the praise? And I'm talking actual fact, not assumptions.


Didn't you know? Not only is he #OutSpoken, he's also #Omnipotent. He is the Alpha Bravo and the Omega Supreme of TF fans. The all knowing.

If Hasbro has done it, he knew they were going to do it before they knew they were going to do it. You should feel privileged to be able to interact with such as he!

#KeepingItReal



It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out CW wave one was some kind of experiment by Hasbro. Not only was Alpha Bravo introduced, but Drag Strip was also drawn on the packaging as being a legitimate Superion limb. My OPINION is Hasbro wanted to see how far they can push the bar to see exactly what type of fans buy Generations figures. Are they G1 traditionalists? Are they IDW fanatics? Do they care more about the playability of limb swapping OR the homage factor of the original characters the toys represent? My OPINION is that that Hasbro solicits fan feedback in many forms from reading TF forums to opening fan e-mails. Didn’t the Slingshot/Wildrider teaser even say “You asked for them?” So yeah, my OPINION is the Slingshot/Wildrider repaints are a direct response to the feedback Hasbro’s program analysts gathered.

Now for the first time in my life, Ill use a hash tag…

#DUH
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:12 am

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That may be, but how long would production normally take? Several months? Anyone?

Whatever the case may be, Hasbro actually listening to the (complaining) fans, or just playing us like a cat with a ball of yarn by planning this from the very beginning, that doesn't change the nature of the Quickslinger and Wildrider releases.

Or the nature of Alpha Bravo for that matter. :lol:
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Dagon » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:45 am

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Rated X wrote:
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That Bot wrote:The fact that Slingshot is only being released to small market stores should tell you something about how much they think they screwed up. They're releasing an extra limb for people that really want it, and giving the drug stores something to call their own. This is not an apology for Alpha Bravo or Offroad.

No, you're right it's not an apology, since no one said sorry for anything and no one should. It's capitalism. It's meeting a demand and making a profit.

I never said it was an apology. What I meant is it was damage control. Somebody from hasbro dropped an orange and white turd on the sidewalk so they pulled out the corporate pooper scooper.

Or it could be the "Bro's" plan was to have new characters for the sake of comics and toys, and then release quickslinger and Brake-neck for fans that don't like change, or are obsessive compulsive enough to buy them; all for the sake of, wait for the revelation.......capital gain. >:oP



Jesus, is it really this impossible to accept that some people might just want Superion and Menasor to be the way that they were in G1? Like, maybe some fans just like that better or prefer that to something different?
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby iguanabytes » Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:28 pm

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I just want the Alpha Bravo detractors out there to know that due to his easygoing and compassionate nature, Alpha Bravo forgives you all. Also, based upon his name, he actually came before Alpha Trion. He is Primus' eternal and mysterious son~ a perfect metaphor for Easter.


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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Optimum Supreme » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:14 pm

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Alpha Bravo's a turd.

Can't wait for Slingshot to come out, no matter what goofy ™ issue inspired name they have saddle him with.

I'm more meh about Wildrider/Off Road. If they'd replaced Dead End, though... :BOOM:
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:19 pm

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Rated X wrote:So yeah, my OPINION is the Slingshot/Wildrider repaints are a direct response to the feedback Hasbro’s program analysts gathered.


Oh wise and educated Rated X, please grant us pleebs a moment of your time to bestow upon us your knowledge of this analysing program that Hasbro runs.

#OpinionsDoNotEqualFact
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby shajaki » Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:18 pm

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby King Kuuga » Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:23 pm

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Burn wrote:
Rated X wrote:So yeah, my OPINION is the Slingshot/Wildrider repaints are a direct response to the feedback Hasbro’s program analysts gathered.


Oh wise and educated Rated X, please grant us pleebs a moment of your time to bestow upon us your knowledge of this analysing program that Hasbro runs.

#OpinionsDoNotEqualFact

Actually he may be right on that particular facet. They may have been considering it all along, but there was a lot of buzz from the fans about wanting Slingshot and Wildrider, and Takara already had the logistics of retooling and redeco worked out, so Hasbro just had to schedule a production run in January or February and offered the figures to stores outside their usual rotation.

That's my theory at least.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:19 pm

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They would have done it regardless. Squeeze out as many repaints as they can. Fan feedback has nothing to do with it. I can't prove that, but no one can prove otherwise either unless they have some inside Hasbro knowledge.

Which Mr Miami doesn't.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:24 pm

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Burn wrote:They would have done it regardless. Squeeze out as many repaints as they can. Fan feedback has nothing to do with it. I can't prove that, but no one can prove otherwise either unless they have some inside Hasbro knowledge.

Which Mr Miami doesn't.

Yeah, i'm willing to bet that Quickslinger and Breakneck being released like this was always in the cards since day one of combiner wars development.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby shajaki » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:35 pm

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:11 pm

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Seems like a more plausible plan.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Rated X » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:40 pm

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Burn wrote:I can't prove that, but no one can prove otherwise either unless they have some inside Hasbro knowledge.

Which Mr Miami doesn't.

Sounds like you cant prove anything more than I can...

Down here in Miami we call that a stalemate. What do they call it in Sydney ? Too much of that Butchers Harem is not good for you mate...
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:51 pm

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Rated X wrote:Sounds like you cant prove anything more than I can...


Difference is, I don't come across as trying to make it like it is fact.

Rated X wrote:What do they call it in Sydney?


No idea, I don't live anywhere near Sydney.

Rated X wrote:Too much of that Butchers Harem is not good for you mate...


Second time you've used that reference against me. Know what? I don't get it.

#AssumptionOnlyMakesAnAssOfYou #GeographyFail #ReferenceFail

Feel free to come up with more backwards theories about Alpha Bravo and Slingshot. I think most people are getting a kick out of you embarrassing yourself.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Rated X » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:48 pm

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Burn wrote: Difference is, I don't come across as trying to make it like it is fact.


Dude, it’s called an opinion. Just like it’s your OPINION is that I’m pushing mine as a fact.

Burn wrote: No idea, I don't live anywhere near Sydney.


And you don’t live anywhere near Miami either. But you sure act like know our slang. #cultureshock

Burn wrote:Second time you've used that reference against me. Know what? I don't get it.


Straight from your country….maybe you can tell me what the hell is going on out there ?
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:04 am

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Shall we get this back on topic? (You know ... like I tried to do with my last post)
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby King Kuuga » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:01 am

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I think he's gonna need some ice for that, Burn.

So, Alpha Bravo. Who's going to keep theirs? Who's selling it? Who's going to get both Quickslinger and ALpha Bravo and skip one of the other Aerialbots? Who's getting all 5 with plans for an unusual combo? I want to hear some stories!
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Burn » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:28 am

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I'd settle for just being able to find him (well him and any of the limbs) in store.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Va'al » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:25 am

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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:25 am

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Va'al wrote:Keeping mine forever! And ever! And ALWAYS

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Every time I see that pic I wanna say something inappropriate... Aw, heck I'll say it anyway:

宇宙キター!!!

Personally, I'll view Alpha Bravo, Offroad and Rook as back-up members for now, same goes for whatever extra members any team gets (like a Jet instead of Black Off...)
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Blastback » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:46 am

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Rated X wrote:
Burn wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And how exactly would you know how much negative feedback he got, compared to all the praise? And I'm talking actual fact, not assumptions.


Didn't you know? Not only is he #OutSpoken, he's also #Omnipotent. He is the Alpha Bravo and the Omega Supreme of TF fans. The all knowing.

If Hasbro has done it, he knew they were going to do it before they knew they were going to do it. You should feel privileged to be able to interact with such as he!

#KeepingItReal


Didn’t the Slingshot/Wildrider teaser even say “You asked for them?"

#DUH

Nope, it was that the rumors were true.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby King Kuuga » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:00 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Va'al wrote:Keeping mine forever! And ever! And ALWAYS

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Every time I see that pic I wanna say something inappropriate... Aw, heck I'll say it anyway:

宇宙キター!!!

You, sir, are awesome.
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Personally, I'll view Alpha Bravo, Offroad and Rook as back-up members for now, same goes for whatever extra members any team gets (like a Jet instead of Black Off...)

If you get Optimus Prime or Cyclonus, you should put them on him. Ultra Backup Combiner.
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Re: Alpha Bravo: Friend or foe ?

Postby Rated X » Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:10 pm

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Thats the scariest pic Ive seen posted on this site in 2015. :shock:

Could it be Alpha Bravo as a human ?
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