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News Credits: 2 · by **Magnimus** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:07 am

Let me be the first to start irrationally sreaming

ATINO

ATINO!

ATINO!!!!

News Credits: 1 · by **Silent_Magnus** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:42 am

First-Aid wrote:Hmmm...nice to see that we've all opened our minds to other possibilities when it comes to Megsy's alt mode. What? We haven't? Oh, yeah...I should have guessed. God Almighty Himself forbid Megs from being anything other than a 1984 Walther P38.

Good grief! I haven't seen this much griping since the movie bots were released! Has anyone noticed that the US government NERFS any altmode that even slightly resembles a gun? Get into the 21st Century already! Open your minds! Megatron can be more than a gun. This isn't G1...it will NEVER be G1 again! G1 is but a fond memory for us old farts. Quit trying to impose our past on our present. It's a new generation...not a rehashed one.

I agree with you on the "THIS ISN'T G1!" part,
But I still prefer megatron as a gun.

Why? Because I love transformers that don't transform into vehicles or animals the most. So the more gunformers the merrier.

But I do like him as an osprey, mainly because I think we need more helicopter transformers.

News Credits: 5 · by **Sledge** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:15 am

Why won't anyone consider what Megatron wants? Do you really think he'd rather be a handgun than a sodding great helicopter, raining death and destruction as the Autobots run for their lives?

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:31 am

microclone wrote:megs as the g1 gun was a bit daft anyway (the toy itself is one of my favourite toys period), it was the product of hasbro picking a microman/diaclone toy and thinking 'which one of these toys we have access to will make the best baddie leader'. combining the diaclone and microman toys automatically meant that the first lot of TF werent going to gel as a whole: a realistic handgun and robotic dinosaurs!!

the walther gun made more sense in the microman world as it was supposed to be a tiny alien bot disguised as real world items (to hide on earth)as were even the minibots that were supposed to be robots disguised as penny racer toys (toy robots disguised as toys!) so megatrons appearance as a gun in g1 was less design and more accident.

had hasbro been able to design a megatron from scratch its unlikely he'd have been a gun, hence the later tanks and vehicles that make more sense. Im all for a helimegs and will judge the toy on its own merits and not on the basis of what it was, what it should be or the cartoon quality.

AN excellent point. Virtually all of the original Decepticons were planes or a flying type of robot. If we went with your theory, it makes sense to assume that Megs would have been a bomber or even an A-10. A well designed Warthog would have been great for an alt mode for G1 Megsy...and it wouldn't have had that trigger-crotch problem...they have a cream for that nowadays.

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:34 am

Magnimus wrote:Let me be the first to start irrationally sreaming

ATINO

ATINO!

ATINO!!!!

Huh?

by **peagreenbot** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:06 pm

First-Aid wrote:Huh?

'Animated Transformers In Name Only'

Not that I agree with that, I quite like it, but will reserve judgement 'tll I see the toy...

by **Pyrostrata** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:45 pm

I am a G1 girl, but I was never quite happy with Megs G1 alt mode in the first place....granted, a Walther P-38 is a nice HANDGUN, but it hardly says to me "I am an evil war machine bent on universal domination!"...I get the same impression from the Osprey..It just doesn't say to me "Evil Overlord" The tank modes, however, says that to me...yes, they are heavy and unwieldy(sp), but they just scream "I AM EVIL!!!"..at least to me anyways....Owell, I'll watch to see what goes on and what they do with it...My mind is open for change!

News Credits: 2 · by **I_AM... MEGATRON!** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:52 pm

I love this new mode, very original, just hope he has more weapons than just the sword I've seen (the sword is cool, but he needs some long range weapons...)

News Credits: 1 · by **Fang Wolf** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:42 pm

Sledge wrote:Why won't anyone consider what Megatron wants? Do you really think he'd rather be a handgun than a sodding great helicopter, raining death and destruction as the Autobots run for their lives?

So a FICTIONAL character can think, aye? So a gun that just falls to the ground unless the #1 Traitor is there is more useful than a mobile alt mode?

LOGIC: MISSING.

by **Wes Crayon** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:53 pm

Fang Wolf wrote:
Sledge wrote:Why won't anyone consider what Megatron wants? Do you really think he'd rather be a handgun than a sodding great helicopter, raining death and destruction as the Autobots run for their lives?
So a FICTIONAL character can think, aye? So a gun that just falls to the ground unless the #1 Traitor is there is more useful than a mobile alt mode?

LOGIC: MISSING.

Umm... first of all, Sledge was clearly joking with respect to the thinking fictional character thing. And second, the wording of his post clearly suggests a preference for the helicopter mode -- not the handgun -- which you seem to share as well. Why, then, are you apparently attacking Sledge?

So unless I'm totally missing something here (which is quite possible, in which case the words below would apply to me in this case

) --

COMPREHENSION: LACKING.

News Credits: 1 · by **Fang Wolf** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:16 am

Wes Crayon wrote:
Fang Wolf wrote:
Sledge wrote:Why won't anyone consider what Megatron wants? Do you really think he'd rather be a handgun than a sodding great helicopter, raining death and destruction as the Autobots run for their lives?
So a FICTIONAL character can think, aye? So a gun that just falls to the ground unless the #1 Traitor is there is more useful than a mobile alt mode?

LOGIC: MISSING.

Umm... first of all, Sledge was clearly joking with respect to the thinking fictional character thing. And second, the wording of his post clearly suggests a preference for the helicopter mode -- not the handgun -- which you seem to share as well. Why, then, are you apparently attacking Sledge?

So unless I'm totally missing something here (which is quite possible, in which case the words below would apply to me in this case ) --

COMPREHENSION: LACKING.

Ok, your right, I realy miss read badly, I am way of the mark, and appologise, but in my defence, sarcasm does not come off at all in text. No, I was not attacking him as a person, just the idea that a gun, that is utterly useless in battle unless aided by someone, is more preferable because of sentemental feelings. Anything is alot more useful than a gun. Optimus of any gen can ram you down, G1 Megs, well, he can fall to the ground at you.

News Credits: 1 · by **Judge Deliberata** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:38 am

I seem to recall Megs hovering in his gun form and firing unaided at some point...

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:59 am

Judge Deliberata wrote:I seem to recall Megs hovering in his gun form and firing unaided at some point...

Along those lines, I always thought it amusing that Megsy had antigravity in robot mode but not in alt mode...despite the fact that the AG powers didn't seem to be jet-turbine related: he didn't have jets in his feet or back, so how did he fly? Magnetic repulsion, more than likely, but that would be available to him in gun mode. But I don't remember him ever hovering on his own. They tried to emphasize the role-playing aspect in the cartoon...it was the only way to sell the alt-mode.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:06 am

First-Aid wrote:
Judge Deliberata wrote:I seem to recall Megs hovering in his gun form and firing unaided at some point...

Along those lines, I always thought it amusing that Megsy had antigravity in robot mode but not in alt mode...despite the fact that the AG powers didn't seem to be jet-turbine related: he didn't have jets in his feet or back, so how did he fly? Magnetic repulsion, more than likely, but that would be available to him in gun mode. But I don't remember him ever hovering on his own. They tried to emphasize the role-playing aspect in the cartoon...it was the only way to sell the alt-mode.

I think it did happen in one or two of the early epys.
Besides he transformed in midair, howering toward the Con that would use him, he never fell to the ground!

News Credits: 1 · by **D-340** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:14 am

OH NOES MEGATRON'S NOT A GUN, TF:A IS TEH SUXXOR! :sad:

Oh boo friggin' hoo. Get over it, he hasn't been a gun for years. Yeah, he was in the Classics line, but that was marketed at the collectors, not the kids who are obviously going to be watching this show. It seems like the movie all over again with all the whiny fanboys coming outta the wordwork.

by **microclone** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:38 am

the image from the video game gives a rather slim looking vehicle, hopefully this is a bit of a misrepresentation and the toy itself will be beefier.

Assuming earth megs is to be a chopper i wonder what size the toy will be? A scale chopper would be impossibly large of course, but heres hoping hes going to be bigger than voyager class, can you imagine a whopping big leader class chopper toy, now that could be a lot of fun, kids (you know, those snotty, sticky fingered little creatures) could really like this.

I really like the way tis line is shaping up, its refreshing to have almost real type vehicles again (please note empasis on 'almost'). For the most part I am not a fan of toys like cybertron megatron with an emphasis on fantasy and elaborate design. I way prefer the simpler looking though more ingenious animated toys.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:05 am

D-340 wrote::sad: OH NOES MEGATRON'S NOT A GUN, TF:A IS TEH SUXXOR!

Oh boo friggin' hoo. Get over it, he hasn't been a gun for years. Yeah, he was in the Classics line, but that was marketed at the collectors, not the kids who are obviously going to be watching this show. It seems like the movie all over again with all the whiny fanboys coming outta the wordwork.

I wasn't bitching about it!
I just said he never fell to the ground in G1.
I don't care what he is as long as he's not a car.

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:46 am

What is this game? What platform is it for? Is it just a beat em up, or is it an actual storyline game? Why is Primal in it with Animated Magatron? Is it across the generations or something? Why does Unicron look wasted/stoned in the pic? Need input!

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:42 am

microclone wrote:the image from the video game gives a rather slim looking vehicle, hopefully this is a bit of a misrepresentation and the toy itself will be beefier.

Assuming earth megs is to be a chopper i wonder what size the toy will be? A scale chopper would be impossibly large of course, but heres hoping hes going to be bigger than voyager class, can you imagine a whopping big leader class chopper toy, now that could be a lot of fun, kids (you know, those snotty, sticky fingered little creatures) could really like this.

I really like the way tis line is shaping up, its refreshing to have almost real type vehicles again (please note empasis on 'almost'). For the most part I am not a fan of toys like cybertron megatron with an emphasis on fantasy and elaborate design. I way prefer the simpler looking though more ingenious animated toys.

A couple notes here...

One thing we've seen with all of the TF:An figures is the accuracy when compared to the animation. I believe he will look almost exactly like the pictures we've seen.

As far as size goes, I believe one of the animated clips we say displayed Megsy as significantly larger than Prime. I'd wager he'll be Ultra while Prime is Voyager. Just a guess on my part though.

by **Omega Spreem** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:01 am

He looks sorta like a deformed X-Wing

News Credits: 3 · by **Kayevcee** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:34 pm

sliverbrich wrote:it looks stupid and i dont like it!!!

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by **Slagbringer** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:14 pm

no way thats someones own 3d pick I doubt itd looks so cheesy and they would pick a way better mode.

by **Slagbringer** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:14 pm

AND GOD NO GUN THAT WOULD SUCK!

by **Slagbringer** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:21 pm

I'm thinkn he'd look better as a version of the blackbird stealth ship remember these are stylized vehicles as in starscream and prime...I honestly doubt that hell be a osprey wouldn't make sense and really that image is a old one Ive seen before and you can tell its early generation 3d and a poopy model to that as well....trust me its not for the new series..