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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Dr. Caelus » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:14 pm

ranger wrote:Do you know what is going on now?


No.

How long will the game be down?


Trust me, if I knew, I would have already told you guys.*

*And even then I'd probably be made wrong.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Tammuz » Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:48 pm

oh for ****'s sake
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Tammuz » Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:20 pm

There have been a total of 3,283 pages viewed on Seibertron.com in the past 15 minutes including this page which loaded in 30.47244 seconds


@00:20 GMT
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Psychout » Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:51 pm

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So, is there a plan 'B'?
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Tammuz » Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:55 pm

Plan Ballocks!
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Psychout » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:17 pm

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Guess we wait for Mkall to give us a status update.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Burn » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:23 pm

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No offense intended towards Mkall but I have to wonder if even he can give us an update. :?
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby ranger » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:13 am

Caelus wrote:
ranger wrote:Do you know what is going on now?


No.

How long will the game be down?


Trust me, if I knew, I would have already told you guys.*

*And even then I'd probably be made wrong.




Ok then.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Mkall » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:17 am

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Burn wrote:No offense intended towards Mkall but I have to wonder if even he can give us an update. :?

'fraid I can't. I guess even with the arena down Seibs decided HMW was too much for the server. :-(
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Psychout » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:34 am

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Level with us dude, we know this is not your fault.

Is HMW dead?
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Evolution Prime » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:38 am

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I seemed to be running fine. There were some small hiccups but it was running fairly smooth when the areana is down.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Rebirth Megatron » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:59 am

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Same...it was working fine for me.

I wish he'd say something though so we wouldn't waste time sitting here and speculate about things. We deserve that much.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Redimus » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:39 pm

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Is this not simply becuase ryan has just uploaded a whole laod of galleries and dosnt want the extra traffic of all those galleries being looked at + hmw to crash the site?

I'd like to make it very clear that from my point of view (and that of most of the members I talk to) HMW is far more important to this website than his stupid galleries, and from a logical point of view, the game *surly* generates a hell of a lot more pageviews than the galleries that, once the innitial rush to look at em has died down, dont really do anything and can only gain a small trickle of hits.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby steve2275 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:47 pm

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Redimus wrote:Is this not simply becuase ryan has just uploaded a whole laod of galleries and dosnt want the extra traffic of all those galleries being looked at + hmw to crash the site?

I'd like to make it very clear that from my point of view (and that of most of the members I talk to) HMW is far more important to this website than his stupid galleries, and from a logical point of view, the game *surly* generates a hell of a lot more pageviews than the galleries that, once the innitial rush to look at em has died down, dont really do anything and can only gain a small trickle of hits.

i agree
i dont think the galleries are stupid however
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Ninjaburn » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:19 pm

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steve2275 wrote:
Redimus wrote:Is this not simply becuase ryan has just uploaded a whole laod of galleries and dosnt want the extra traffic of all those galleries being looked at + hmw to crash the site?

I'd like to make it very clear that from my point of view (and that of most of the members I talk to) HMW is far more important to this website than his stupid galleries, and from a logical point of view, the game *surly* generates a hell of a lot more pageviews than the galleries that, once the innitial rush to look at em has died down, dont really do anything and can only gain a small trickle of hits.

i agree
i dont think the galleries are stupid however


Agreed, the galleries are an important part of the site; and in a way its a great archive of the last 20+ years of transformers.

HOWEVER, in the last six months the HMW game (and to an extent its community) have basically been treated a bit like the red-headed stepchild of the site. I know many of our regulars have jumped ship, and I myself am teetering on the edge. Let's just hope adding the addition RAM to the server will do the trick.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Evolution Prime » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:25 pm

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Redimus wrote:Is this not simply becuase ryan has just uploaded a whole laod of galleries and dosnt want the extra traffic of all those galleries being looked at + hmw to crash the site?

I'd like to make it very clear that from my point of view (and that of most of the members I talk to) HMW is far more important to this website than his stupid galleries, and from a logical point of view, the game *surly* generates a hell of a lot more pageviews than the galleries that, once the innitial rush to look at em has died down, dont really do anything and can only gain a small trickle of hits.


While in our eyes HMW may be more important, other aspects, such as the galleries, may be more important in Seibs eyes. Seibs even admitted himself that he is not a gamer. He knows that HMW draws people to this site. He just has other priorities as of late. If he didn't care about us HMWers, the game would have been pulled a long time ago. He has been doing everything he can to make HMW work with his current setup. Seibs still care about us. Ripping him for his "stupid galleries" over fixing HMW is a bit out of line. IT is after all his website.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby First Gen » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:34 pm

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The galleries are very important. You forget that Seibertron is not only a fan site, but a collector's site to boot. No other website gives the indepth galleries and views of a potential purchase you care to make, letting you know exactly what you'd be getting, and what to look for.

I love HMW, but priorities are priorties, and Ryan has to do what he thinks is best for the website. PLUS he just added 2 gb of RAM to help the cause. So your complaints are being heard, just give him time.

If not for him we wouldn't have HMW at all.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Dr. Caelus » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:03 pm

I've actually been surprised at how much I look at the galleries, even the old ones.

Edit:

Like I said in the other topic I just locked, this thread has gotten pretty far off-topic (simply announcing the Arena was going on hiatus), and is not necessarily pertinent now that we know the server is getting upgraded.

As I said in the other thread though:

If someone wants to start a thread specifically about generating ideas to streamline HMW, then that would be fine. It would be nice to have the suggestions/ideas in a form that doesn't involve sifting through two different threads which each have the coherency of Bipolar Goldfish debating with Spastic Monkeys. :P

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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Seibertron » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:17 am

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Evolution Prime wrote:
Redimus wrote:Is this not simply becuase ryan has just uploaded a whole laod of galleries and dosnt want the extra traffic of all those galleries being looked at + hmw to crash the site?

I'd like to make it very clear that from my point of view (and that of most of the members I talk to) HMW is far more important to this website than his stupid galleries, and from a logical point of view, the game *surly* generates a hell of a lot more pageviews than the galleries that, once the innitial rush to look at em has died down, dont really do anything and can only gain a small trickle of hits.


While in our eyes HMW may be more important, other aspects, such as the galleries, may be more important in Seibs eyes. Seibs even admitted himself that he is not a gamer. He knows that HMW draws people to this site. He just has other priorities as of late. If he didn't care about us HMWers, the game would have been pulled a long time ago. He has been doing everything he can to make HMW work with his current setup. Seibs still care about us. Ripping him for his "stupid galleries" over fixing HMW is a bit out of line. IT is after all his website.


Sorry guys, but the galleries are FAR more important to Seibertron.com and to the overall Transformers community than HMW will ever be. The galleries, the forums, and the news all rival HMW for traffic. HMW is just a fun game for you guys to play. The rest of the website is what interests the majority of the fandom. Only a very small percentage of the people that visit Seibertron.com play HMW.

Here's a list of the 10 most popular pages last month on the website ...

/index.php
/energonpub/viewforum.php?f=4
/toys/index.php
/events/event.php?event_id=80
/events/gallery.php?event_id=91
/toys/index.php?f_series=40
/news/index.php
/events/gallery.php?event_id=81&size=0&start=25
/events/gallery.php?event_id=81
/energonpub/index.php

HMW isn't in the list because it was down so much last month and the events section was quite popular because of Toy Fair. Hopefully one month from now, we'll see HMW back in the top 10.

HMW being down for the past month has absolutely NOTHING to do with the return of the galleries. HMW causes the website to run extremely slow because the website has once again surpassed the server's capabilities. Because of the scripts that run every minute to process the battles for HMW, it is an extreme resource hog. HMW is the first thing to go because of this so that the sections of the website that the general public sees and the majority of people visit will still work. I hope that my invest of $45 per month into HMW to get us an extra 2GB of RAM (for a total of 4GB) this past Wednesday will resolve this problem once and for all.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Seibertron » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:32 am

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Arena has been re-enabled ... this was not the cause of the problems last week.
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