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Wow... Gunbarrel is up to $112.50... That's more than the lot for all 3 which is at $81.00

Reverb trails the pack at $35.00. Let's see if he overtakes Gunbarrel.

snap MR37

Backtrack my a$$ that's soooooo Guardian Night Ranger SEKSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Unicronic wrote:I don't understand the popularity of these figures, they are just energon and cybertron toys repackaged in Transformers movie packaging. Just get the originals and save some money.

They aren't repackages. They're brand new decos. I'll probably top out at about $100 shipped for all three based on the apparent availability.

Same figures different paint jobs, I still say get the originals.

Damn that much? People should use google more often. I just got all 3 for 60 bucks........

Better do it fast, the scalpers are smelling blood with these auctions.

MEGATRON wrote:scalpers

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I don't understand how someone could get their hands on something that was "never released."

txex97 wrote:I don't understand how someone could get there hands on something that was "never released."

My theory is that the factory/factories have been sitting on these for a couple of years since they were made and canceled. I have a feeling that this is abandoned stock which the factory/factories are now selling via Chinese auction sites. Is that a possibility? The ones I'm selling appear to be intended for the Mexican market, not Target like I had originally thought.

Anyone else have theories?

Seibertron wrote:

txex97 wrote:I don't understand how someone could get their hands on something that was "never released."

My theory is that the factory/factories have been sitting on these for a couple of years since they were made and canceled. I have a feeling that this is abandoned stock which the factory/factories are now selling via Chinese auction sites.

The first part sounds like a plausible explanation, but why wouldn't Hasbro sell them through, say Hasbro Toy Store instead of esoteric (& sketchy?) Chinese auction sites? I for one don't trust sellers from overseas.

The ones I'm selling appear to be intended for the Mexican market, not Target like I had originally thought.

Que? The packages aren't in Spanish.

txex97 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

txex97 wrote:I don't understand how someone could get their hands on something that was "never released."

My theory is that the factory/factories have been sitting on these for a couple of years since they were made and canceled. I have a feeling that this is abandoned stock which the factory/factories are now selling via Chinese auction sites.

The first part sounds like a plausible explanation, but why wouldn't Hasbro sell them through, say Hasbro Toy Store instead of esoteric (& sketchy?) Chinese auction sites? I for one don't trust sellers from overseas.

Most likely what happened is that the seller that Hasbro had lined up to sell them (Target I believe) decided it was no longer going to carry the line fairly late in production, so Hasbro had no outlet to sell them. Enough quantity was made that it was deemed not profitable, or too cumbersome for HTS to sell them.

txex97 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

txex97 wrote:I don't understand how someone could get their hands on something that was "never released."

My theory is that the factory/factories have been sitting on these for a couple of years since they were made and canceled. I have a feeling that this is abandoned stock which the factory/factories are now selling via Chinese auction sites.

The first part sounds like a plausible explanation, but why wouldn't Hasbro sell them through, say Hasbro Toy Store instead of esoteric (& sketchy?) Chinese auction sites? I for one don't trust sellers from overseas.

The ones I'm selling appear to be intended for the Mexican market, not Target like I had originally thought.

Que? The packages aren't in Spanish.

The case is different that they come in. You'll see a pic of the case in my upcoming galleries for these. The case was definitely destined to head to the Mexican market. Plus these all have dual instructions ... the traditional Hasbro ones and then Mexican version that's printed on the paper more like the BotCon instructions are.

I wonder, does Hasbro see even a dime when they are left holding the bag, as in this example? Or it's simply a total write-off?

HighPrime wrote:I wonder, does Hasbro see even a dime when they are left holding the bag, as in this example? Or it's simply a total write-off?

This would be interesting to know. I have a feeling that there's a huge side of this that we don't know about and may never know about. I wish we knew more about the factory side of things. I'm surprised that in this day of age with the Internet and ease of access to information that we don't know about the factory process.

So you're the guy who replied me "**** TFW2005!" when I told you about their group purchase ($25 shipped apiece) through Ebay?

Pascal wrote:So you're the guy who replied me **** TFW2005!" when I told you about their group purchase ($25 shipped apiece) through Ebay?

Who are you referring to?

I PM'd some Ebay seller from Chicago (or was it just Illinois?) selling some of the unreleased scouts and that's what he replied me. I thought he was scalping the toys obtained from the group purchase.

Pascal wrote:I PM'd some Ebay seller from Chicago (or was it just Illinois?) selling some of the unreleased scouts and that's what he replied me. I thought he was scalping the toys obtained from the group purchase.

I wouldn't say that about one of my competitors. Perhaps it was diablien (http://www.collecticon.org/)? I think he had a falling out with TFW at the end of last year so maybe there're still some ongoing issues with that.

Yes, that's him.

I was able to get 2 of the 3 figures... Great addition to my collection!
But I was wondering; does anybody know how many of these figure were actually produced? The figures still pop-up on Ebay...