The Energon Pub

You know, Merc...Hellraiser44's rant there nearly gives CAPS EAGLE a run for his money.

Nearly.

Necessary Evil wrote:You know, Merc...Hellraiser44's rant there nearly gives CAPS EAGLE a run for his money.

Nearly.

your welcome

by the way i was not trying to impose any ideals on anyone or beliefs as someone said it. just looking out for you guys, but it was a mistake.

so please pay no attention to the previous comments made on you guys, if it makes you feel any better.

Geez, you Preds are the Jehovah's Witnesses of HMW. Trying to get us to give up our delicious Decepticon diet with a bunch of reverse psychology, baiting, guilt-tripping and whatnot.

If you want our patronage in missions, BEG FOR IT!

Nickolai wrote:Geez, you Preds are the Jehovah's Witnesses of HMW. Trying to get us to give up our delicious Decepticon diet with a bunch of reverse psychology, baiting, guilt-tripping and whatnot.

If you want our patronage in missions, BEG FOR IT!

I am more then content to ravage your weaker new players and give them a bad experience playing while the higher ones sit on their duffs and refuse to back them up. Because that's what you're admitting to doing. Refusing to support your allies.

Absolute Zero wrote:I am more then content to ravage your weaker new players and give them a bad experience playing while the higher ones sit on their duffs and refuse to back them up. Because that's what you're admitting to doing. Refusing to support your allies.

Tsk! That's not going to get us to stop going up against GS, SM, Waaagh and "friends" and go play with you instead. Try a different tack.

Aren't you guys supposed to be the "good guys"?

Good guys are supposed to back up their weaker members.

No wonder all the cool players are Preds and Decepticons

Nickolai wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:I am more then content to ravage your weaker new players and give them a bad experience playing while the higher ones sit on their duffs and refuse to back them up. Because that's what you're admitting to doing. Refusing to support your allies.

Tsk! That's not going to get us to stop going up against GS, SM, Waaagh and "friends" and go play with you instead. Try a different tack.

Cower in the arena all you want. It makes no difference. When you're all alone at the upper levels with no backup and we have a good spread of players who've been conditioned to back up their team mates no matter what we'll see who had the better plan in the long run. Isolating your newer players only serves to perpetuate your future downfall. So yeah go ahead and give them a good reason to turn their backs on you. With any luck you'll piss them off just enough for them to jump ship...

Gaaah!

It's like you refuse to grasp the fact that there's ANOTHER opposing faction out there which is MUCH stronger than you guys, and is ALSO beating the snot out of our newbies.

Or it's just more convoluted mission recruitment tactics by you guys.

Right now I barely see any opposition in the missions.

It seems that you refuse to grasp the fact that the lower people(Level 0's) might walk away from the game because they're always going against Level 1's and 2's by themselves with no help from you and your selfish teammates. We're looking out for your team more then you are!

original sin wrote:Right now I barely see any opposition in the missions.

It seems that you refuse to grasp the fact that the lower people(Level 0's) might walk away from the game because they're always going against Level 1's and 2's by themselves with no help from you and your selfish teammates. We're looking out for your team more then you are!

Now, don't you just love irony?

Nickolai wrote:Gaaah!

It's like you refuse to grasp the fact that there's ANOTHER opposing faction out there which is MUCH stronger than you guys, and is ALSO beating the snot out of our newbies.

Or it's just more convoluted mission recruitment tactics by you guys.

What you don't understand is there's a reason we're not calling out the bots. Aside from GS, all Decepticon commanders will back up their lower members in the Pred missions. If they can do it with smaller numbers, then why can't you?

When people are able to defect again, the Predacon forces are going to be bigger. We're already stronger then the Autobots. We split generally against the Maximals, since that's where most of the good bot players went. Starlock joins Pred missions more then any top bot, and he's in the next smallest faction. What does that say about you?

Absolute Zero wrote:What does that say about you?

Frankly, who gives a ****?

This whole line of insulting 'Bot players because they're not joining certain missions has gotten pretty pathetic.

Ever stop to consider that maybe they're really not around to join your missions because they're fighting Maximals or 'Cons? I mean do any of you have any actual proof that Autobot players are avoiding Predacon missions?

Because I see plenty of Autobots in my missions.

And even if they're in the arena, well so what? That's their choice as well.

What was that saying about letting people play the game THEIR way?

Absolute Zero wrote:What you don't understand is there's a reason we're not calling out the bots. Aside from GS, all Decepticon commanders will back up their lower members in the Pred missions. If they can do it with smaller numbers, then why can't you?

When people are able to defect again, the Predacon forces are going to be bigger. We're already stronger then the Autobots. We split generally against the Maximals, since that's where most of the good bot players went. Starlock joins Pred missions more then any top bot, and he's in the next smallest faction. What does that say about you?

Nothing, really. Well, except for that "aside from GS" bit. Most of the time I'm up against him, "Cyclonus" and "Scourge".

Burn wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:What does that say about you?

Frankly, who gives a ****?

This whole line of insulting 'Bot players because they're not joining certain missions has gotten pretty pathetic.

Ever stop to consider that maybe they're really not around to join your missions because they're fighting Maximals or 'Cons? I mean do any of you have any actual proof that Autobot players are avoiding Predacon missions?

Because I see plenty of Autobots in my missions.

And even if they're in the arena, well so what? That's their choice as well.

What was that saying about letting people play the game THEIR way?

As much as I like you what you just said contradicts what you posted about the Challenge Arena in another thread. Sure they can play however they want. No there's no proof of it because none of us are petty enough to do so. But if we needed to we probably could find proof. This wouldn't be an issue if we weren't getting as many Autobot missions generated as Decepticon and Maximal missions combined. I will say this though Burn, the next time I post a mission link here I'll screen cap the mission and post it here. And then we can look at what happens when I post a link. The Bots only come out of the woodwork when they're called out. Very few actually join Predacon missions of their own free will. I can count them on one hand.

Actually I DID have a beef agains the Preds a week or so ago. ONE of you, we'll never know who probably, was push-generating missions like HELL. I would seriously enter the missions page and see 5 or so X v 0 Pred missions.

Would you PLEASE do an internal investigation and present the culprit so we can apply great justice with sustained nut kicking?

Your logic is nonsensical at best. What do the Predacons gain from feeding the Autobots with a sea of free XP? What do the Autobots gain from it? HURP A DURP!

From now on Predacons don't talk about this crap. We post links. We'll be in the missions in force. If you want us. That's where we'll be. Simple as that. It's put up or shut up time. And we're done talking.

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=248103 Maxis 5 Mins

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=248107 Bots 7 minutes

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=248113 Bots 18 minutes

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=248114 Cons 18

Burn wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:What does that say about you?

Frankly, who gives a ****?

This whole line of insulting 'Bot players because they're not joining certain missions has gotten pretty pathetic.

Ever stop to consider that maybe they're really not around to join your missions because they're fighting Maximals or 'Cons? I mean do any of you have any actual proof that Autobot players are avoiding Predacon missions?

Because I see plenty of Autobots in my missions.

And even if they're in the arena, well so what? That's their choice as well.

What was that saying about letting people play the game THEIR way?

I disagree. Given the fact that we predacons have the short end of the stick in numbers, we still usually manage a decient showing in missions. Obviously not filling everyone, and maybe not even half filling some missions, but look at your logs against us. You don't see the same 6 commanders every time, but you do see several of us a lot. I play this game 16-18 hours a day, and I manage to fight every faction, and rarely rarely do I ever get to generate missions, so there is always someone else in those missions. Even with people who focas on the arena more, we still get a pretty good varitey of commanders in missions.

And I am petty enough to check. I know that their better commanders are avoiding pred missions. It's why when one got called on it, he flipped out.

The reason I want some of the better autobots in the pred missions is simple, and I'll use your arguement to show a point. If the high autobots avoid the pred missions that they are likely spawning or at the very least see spawned and only join missions against the cons, then they are forcing lower leveled and experienced people into the missions against the cons, taking away their choice to play the game the way they want. If I held a apple and a orange out for you, and said to choose one, but took the orange away before you could choose, how is that giving you a choice?

*edit* And isn't telling me not to call out another faction basically telling me how I can and can not play the game? I'm not being particularly DB about it. I'm not really insulting anyone. They're saying their points, I'm saying my counter points.

If I held a apple and a orange out for you, and said to choose one, but took the orange away before you could choose, how is that giving you a choice?

ooooooooooooooo good one.

but what if it was a strawberry and a mango.

now you got something.

Hellraiser44 wrote:

If I held a apple and a orange out for you, and said to choose one, but took the orange away before you could choose, how is that giving you a choice?

ooooooooooooooo good one.

but what if it was a strawberry and a mango.

now you got something.

I'll take the durian. Then equip it and clobber.

I normally only dump my level 0's (even though I only have them and level 1's) into the Max/Pred missions. Is that wrong by your standards?

Burn wrote:I normally only dump my level 0's (even though I only have them and level 1's) into the Max/Pred missions. Is that wrong by your standards?

No, because you, as a commander, are not avoiding them as a whole, and you faction provides you with high end support. In most con missions I see, I also see Sounders, SM, and other high end con commanders. They are willing to help you. Hell, even Otago and Bluevolt join Pred missions when they're not in the arena.

So why does it bother YOU so much how others choose to play the game?

If they don't show up they don't show up. Get over it and move on. Plenty of other people to fight.

Burn wrote:If they don't show up they don't show up. Get over it and move on. Plenty of other people to fight.

QFT'd.

Absolute Zero wrote:*edit* And isn't telling me not to call out another faction basically telling me how I can and can not play the game? I'm not being particularly DB about it. I'm not really insulting anyone. They're saying their points, I'm saying my counter points.

AZ, ive read enough, this whinging banter stops immediately. If the bots dont want to fight you, find another enemy. Harassing them will piss them off more and then they are even less likely to join your missions. (Its so obvious I shouldn't even need to mention it!)

Post links to fights if you want to create a rivalry, as at the moment you sound like a kid crying that no one wants to play with you, and to be frank im not in slightest bit suprised they dont.

If you wish, start your own thread for the preds as so many of you cant see into the Pred forum, but its time to follow Merc's example and leave this thread for the bots.