The Energon Pub

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:08 pm

Merc With A Mouth wrote:Isn't exploiting a glitch in the game the same as cheating?

Probably. Should be in the rules.

by **Loki God Of Mischief** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:00 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:
Merc With A Mouth wrote:Isn't exploiting a glitch in the game the same as cheating?

Probably. Should be in the rules.

It is. All glitches and exploits are supposed to be reported and not exploited. Says so in the game rules. Unless you were using deadpan sarcastic humor. At which point I saw what you did there.

Omega Sentinel wrote:SECTION 4 - HMW Game Rules
PARTS
A - You may not exploit an "Unfair Advantage" in the game by:
- Sharing your account with another individual. This is considered cheating, even if it is only to have someone ‘baby-sit’ your team while you are on vacation.
- Creating programs (scripts, macros, hacks, virus's etc.) to play the game for you or to cheat by harming other player's accounts or altering your own.
- Exploiting a glitch or loop hole in the game's programming to access weapons you do not have the FP/SK requirements to access, upgrade stats and tactics past 10, upgrade stats and tactics beyond what your bot’s xp allows, activate more than 6 bots at a time or, in short, take any other action that is not within the normal parameters of game play.

B - If you discover a glitch in the game that allows your bots to be given an unfair advantage, regardless of how minor it may be, you MUST report it immediately and cease taking advantage of the exploit immediately. If you do so there will be no consequences.

Note: Unfair Advantages that You have No Control Over
These will occasionally emerge as the result of programming changes or maintenance by the game's administrators. You should contact a Moderator as soon as possible to help you correct these issues.

by **neliz** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:53 am

Tammuz wrote:i've tested it lots.

it doesn't work.

agree.. if I click many times, I only get PRED missions

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:23 am

neliz wrote:
Tammuz wrote:i've tested it lots.

it doesn't work.

agree.. if I click many times, I only get PRED missions

Well damn well join them then!
We've been bringing good numbers into the missions, esepcilly in the evenings (european/uk times).

by **neliz** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:32 am

Fearless Echoes wrote:Well damn well join them then!
We've been bringing good numbers into the missions, esepcilly in the evenings (european/uk times).

You can find me in the Arena if you want or in the bot/con missions

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:08 am

neliz wrote:
Fearless Echoes wrote:Well damn well join them then!
We've been bringing good numbers into the missions, esepcilly in the evenings (european/uk times).

You can find me in the Arena if you want or in the bot/con missions

So you are avoiding beast missions, especilly when they are full on the enemy's side?

Coward.

by **Loki God Of Mischief** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:46 am

Fearless Echoes wrote:
neliz wrote:
Fearless Echoes wrote:Well damn well join them then!
We've been bringing good numbers into the missions, esepcilly in the evenings (european/uk times).

You can find me in the Arena if you want or in the bot/con missions

So you are avoiding beast missions, especilly when they are full on the enemy's side?

Coward.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:40 pm

Fearless Echoes wrote:
neliz wrote:
Fearless Echoes wrote:Well damn well join them then!
We've been bringing good numbers into the missions, esepcilly in the evenings (european/uk times).

You can find me in the Arena if you want or in the bot/con missions

So you are avoiding beast missions, especilly when they are full on the enemy's side?

Coward.

What's it matter if he doesn't join Bot missions? Every mission against the bots and cons I ever see are 6 :BOT:

vs 0

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:31 pm

There are times, (when he is online) where the preds can take on, and infact often beat, the bots.

by **neliz** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:37 pm

the only time I join a pred mission is when they are close to finish and bots need backup. but 90% of the time i have more to prove against higher ranked and out-numbering cons.

I'll leave you against the canon fodder L0 bots that are swarming the beasty missions to get some xp. Until then, prove it in the arena.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:54 pm

As much as I dont much care for the arena, I do sometimes use it. However, I cant say I've ever seen you there.

And I am sure as hell not leaving my guys in the arena with no oposition already waiting.

by **neliz** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:12 pm

Fearless Echoes wrote:And I am sure as hell not leaving my guys in the arena with no oposition already waiting.[/color]

I can be seen there quite often.

you got my msn, hook me up.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:18 pm

Sending two people to the arena is not there quite often. Bluevolt, Otago, Armaz, Snapcase and some others are there way more often.

Seriously though. We can't kill you if you don't join the bot/pred missions.

by **neliz** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:30 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:Sending two people to the arena is not there quite often. Bluevolt, Otago, Armaz, Snapcase and some others are there way more often.

Seriously though. We can't kill you if you don't join the bot/pred missions.

two DEDICATED arena bots, there are two more going there given the right circumstances.

however you call it. It requires balancing and I'm doing just fine.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:35 pm

neliz wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:Sending two people to the arena is not there quite often. Bluevolt, Otago, Armaz, Snapcase and some others are there way more often.

Seriously though. We can't kill you if you don't join the bot/pred missions.

two DEDICATED arena bots, there are two more going there given the right circumstances.

however you call it. It requires balancing and I'm doing just fine.

Fact remains you're not there quite often.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:41 pm

I dunno if this an insult or a compliment, but you are by far the worst arena monkey I have ever seen!

by **neliz** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:48 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:Fact remains you're not there quite often.

define quite often. I always have bots in the arena without becoming an Arena whore. Going full time Arena would get me lower average XP but shorter CR times when I compared 100 arena bouts A Day ersus missions in the same period.

pRedimus wrote:I dunno if this an insult or a compliment, but you are by far the worst arena monkey I have ever seen!

I know I only have a 65% arena rating, but I'm working on it.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:58 pm

neliz wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:Fact remains you're not there quite often.

define quite often. I always have bots in the arena without becoming an Arena whore. Going full time Arena would get me lower average XP but shorter CR times when I compared 100 arena bouts A Day ersus missions in the same period.

I disagree with the XP haul. A decient build will get you plenty of XP in the arena. At level 1, I've been able to pretty consistantly pull pretty good XP scores. 7-800 scores are not the norm, but they're not the norm in missions either. Of course that could be because of lack of quality opponents.

by **neliz** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:11 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:I disagree with the XP haul. A decient build will get you plenty of XP in the arena. At level 1, I've been able to pretty consistantly pull pretty good XP scores. 7-800 scores are not the norm, but they're not the norm in missions either. Of course that could be because of lack of quality opponents.

I tallied the XP gains in October for about a week.

October 16th:
arena: 39 battles

XP - € - Life
226.6 - 240.7 - 19.4%

Missions: 9 battles
XP - € - Life
296.1 - 279.4 - 10.8%

95 Arena Fights

Avg XP - € - Life
225.9 - 245.3 - 26.7

total XP is 21464 for those arena bouts

(only two missions that day)
231.5 - 231.5 - 0

Data for October 19 (half a day)

48 Arena Bouts

205.5 - 371.9 - 25%

16 missions
173.2 - 151.3 - 34%

Data for October 20th

33 arena bouts

215.5 - 226.8 - 14.1

11 missions (half of the missions had only 50% opposition, those with full opposition were only won 33% of the time.)
206.2 - 178.9 - 40.6

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:16 pm

neliz wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:I disagree with the XP haul. A decient build will get you plenty of XP in the arena. At level 1, I've been able to pretty consistantly pull pretty good XP scores. 7-800 scores are not the norm, but they're not the norm in missions either. Of course that could be because of lack of quality opponents.

I tallied the XP gains in October for about a week.

October 16th:
arena: 39 battles

XP - € - Life
226.6 - 240.7 - 19.4%

Missions: 9 battles
XP - € - Life
296.1 - 279.4 - 10.8%

95 Arena Fights

Avg XP - € - Life
225.9 - 245.3 - 26.7

total XP is 21464 for those arena bouts

(only two missions that day)
231.5 - 231.5 - 0

Data for October 19 (half a day)

48 Arena Bouts

205.5 - 371.9 - 25%

16 missions
173.2 - 151.3 - 34%

Data for October 20th

33 arena bouts

215.5 - 226.8 - 14.1

11 missions (half of the missions had only 50% opposition, those with full opposition were only won 33% of the time.)
206.2 - 178.9 - 40.6

How are you gaining more energon then XP?

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:21 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:How are you gaining more energon then XP?

Arena pays +25 Xp/ +50€ per win if I remember right.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:41 pm

Chaoslock wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:How are you gaining more energon then XP?

Arena pays +25 Xp/ +50€ per win if I remember right.

Was it? I thought it was 25 for energon and xp for the win? Ah well. Shows how much attention I pay to energon.

*edit* Not posting this to brag, but to show energon difference. At least it's different when I pay attention to it...

*edit 2* Chaoslock was correct. So, 0's and 1's get more energon in the arena then XP for a victory, but the 50 energon doesn't offset the difference in energon vs xp at level 2... Which is why I was confuzzled.

by **Grimpoo** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:14 pm

Damn you Neilz!!! You killed my Pooscream in the arena. Bounty time...i got 10k on the first phucker who kills pipes! Decepticons of course. My ego is beaten and i need a pain killer to deal with the stress!

by **neliz** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:26 pm

Grimpoo wrote:Damn you Neilz!!! You killed my Pooscream in the arena. Bounty time...i got 10k on the first phucker who kills pipes! Decepticons of course. My ego is beaten and i need a pain killer to deal with the stress!

IT's an altmode bug:

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=162248

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=162142

see?

by **Grimpoo** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:29 pm

neliz wrote:
Grimpoo wrote:Damn you Neilz!!! You killed my Pooscream in the arena. Bounty time...i got 10k on the first phucker who kills pipes! Decepticons of course. My ego is beaten and i need a pain killer to deal with the stress!

IT's an altmode bug:

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=162248

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=162142

see?

*cries* yes i do see...20k now ..and another pain killer for me!